張祝珊英文中學

ANChan59

ccspy 寫道:
One point I am not too certain is that with 20% as the limit, in other words, 20 points, for those like your son got 34 points in prizes and your son's friend got 42 points, both of them could score full marks 20 points in their applications. That means, no difference between them in this area. Then the battlefield for discrimination will be the other scoring areas. Am I right?

The battlefield will be rank order list and conduct, which account 60%.  According to the briefing, CCSC discover the positive correlation between rank order and the actual academic achievement.

EVA, Services and Awards just balance out the 3-3-4 new University admission criteria, 1/3 score from E-S-A plus 2/3 academic results.  If CCSC wants to ensure 100% admission rate, they need students good or reasonable good E-S-A this year onward.

ccspy

ANChan59 寫道:

The battlefield will be rank order list and conduct, which account 60%.  According to the briefing, CCSC discover the positive correlation between rank order and the actual academic achievement.

EVA, Services and Awards just balance out the 3-3-4 new University admission criteria, 1/3 score from E-S-A plus 2/3 academic results.  If CCSC wants to ensure 100% admission rate, they need students good or reasonable good E-S-A this year onward.

Thanks for your explanation! I can see the hidden correlation among the criteria set by the school and the future of the students aiming at the university admission.

KL

ccspy

Do you know how to count the two 呈分试 e.g. first round no. one, second round no. 5, will they add up the two and divide it by two = no. 3 of the whole grade?

ANChan59

KL 寫道:
Do you know how to count the two 呈分试 e.g. first round no. one, second round no. 5, will they add up the two and divide it by two = no. 3 of the whole grade?

Results of two 呈分试 will be divided by two and adjusted by the 99-00 assessment result of the seniors of that school plus the Pre-Secondary Test result in 2006.  The score will be ranked in two order lists:

A.  Whole Territory Rank Order List (say this year
     300 applicants for CCSC, your kid's adjusted
     score will be rank accordingly, another list say for
     BPS or QC), and
B.  Corresponding District Rank Order List, e.g
     Eastern District, Shamshuipo.

ROL "A" will be applicable to the DP and DSS allocation and ROL "B" will be applicable to the CA allocation.

ANChan59

KL 寫道:
Do you know how to count the two 呈分试 e.g. first round no. one, second round no. 5, will they add up the two and divide it by two = no. 3 of the whole grade?

Results of two 呈分试 will be divided by two and adjusted by the 99-00 assessment result of the seniors of that school plus the Pre-Secondary Test result in 2006.  The score will be ranked in two order lists:

A.  Whole Territory Rank Order List (say this year
     300 applicants for CCSC, your kid's adjusted
     score will be rank accordingly, another list say for
     BPS or QC), and
B.  Corresponding District Rank Order List, e.g
     Eastern District, Shamshuipo.

ROL "A" will be applicable to the DP and DSS allocation and ROL "B" will be applicable to the CA allocation.

ccspy

KL 寫道:
ccspy

Do you know how to count the two 呈分试 e.g. first round no. one, second round no. 5, will they add up the two and divide it by two = no. 3 of the whole grade?

根據教統局網頁資料提供：

2006年「中一入學前測驗」的抽樣成績及1999/2000學年學能測驗成績的平均值，將用作調整2007年9月升讀中一的學生在小學的校內成績。2008年的中學學位分配辦法，將會採用2006年及2007年「中一入學前測驗」抽樣所得的平均成績；而2009年及2010年中學學位分配辦法，便會採用2007年及2008年「中一入學前測驗」抽樣所得的平均成績作為調整工具。2011年的中學學位分配辦法，則會採用2008年及2010年「中一入學前測驗」抽樣所得的平均成績作為調整工具。

在2005/2007派位年度，那些沒有2006年「中一入學前測驗」抽樣成績或1999/2000學年學能測驗成績的小學(例如新校)，會以該校所屬學校網內所有小學在該年度有關測驗的平均成績作調整。在其後的派位年度，學校如沒有某一年「中一入學前測驗」抽樣成績(例如新校)，則以該校所屬學校網內所有小學在該年度有關測驗的平均成績作為調整工具。

學生的派位組別是根據他們經調整後的校內成績劃分。電腦首先將學生在小五下學期及小六上、下學期的校內成績標準化，再利用調整工具調整學生的校內成績。學校在2006年「中一入學前測驗」的抽樣成績及1999/2000學年學能測驗成績的平均值，將用作調整2005/2007派位年度學生的校內成績。

電腦會將全港學生經調整後的積分按高低排列次序，然後平均劃分為三個全港派位組別，每個組別佔全港學生的三分之一。全港派位組別是用作分配不受學校網限制的學位。而在進行按學校網的統一派位時，在同一學校網內的學生則根據他們經調整後的積分按高低排列次序，然後平均劃分為三個學校網派位組別，每個組別佔網內學生的三分之一。學校網派位組別是用作分配學生所屬學校網的學位。

希望這些資料可以幫到你。

Jcmichelle

HI ANChan5,


Refer "E.g. Awards, say my son added up all awards both internal and external is 34 points. The highest point student of this year is 42 points, the highest point student can get 20/20 and not 42. My son may be 18/20 and not 34. If the student only have 3 point, he may score 1/20. The same for all criteria."

Sorry, I am still a little bit confuse. Would you mind tell us it in details or breakdown. Let's say...is it as follows:
1) Speech winner ....5 points
2) Music winner .....5 points
3) swimming winner ....5 points
4) Drawing winner .....5 points
5) Dancing wnner .....5 points.........etc

Ifso, that mean a student needs a lot of activite then she/he can gets high marks. Would you mind to tell me, am I right ?


Cheers

ANChan59

Jcmichelle 寫道:
Sorry, I am still a little bit confuse. Would you mind tell us it in details or breakdown. Let's say...is it as follows:
1) Speech winner ....5 points
2) Music winner .....5 points
3) swimming winner ....5 points
4) Drawing winner .....5 points
5) Dancing wnner .....5 points.........etc

Ifso, that mean a student needs a lot of activite then she/he can gets high marks. Would you mind to tell me, am I right ?
Cheers

Yes, you are correct.  But don't be confused that my son really score 34, just say for an example.  Also, related to the competition of the applicants.

ccspy

Jcmichelle 寫道:
HI ANChan5,


Refer "E.g. Awards, say my son added up all awards both internal and external is 34 points. The highest point student of this year is 42 points, the highest point student can get 20/20 and not 42. My son may be 18/20 and not 34. If the student only have 3 point, he may score 1/20. The same for all criteria."

Sorry, I am still a little bit confuse. Would you mind tell us it in details or breakdown. Let's say...is it as follows:
1) Speech winner ....5 points
2) Music winner .....5 points
3) swimming winner ....5 points
4) Drawing winner .....5 points
5) Dancing wnner .....5 points.........etc

Ifso, that mean a student needs a lot of activite then she/he can gets high marks. Would you mind to tell me, am I right ?


Cheers

If your son can have a number of prizes say 1st, 2nd and 3rd ones, you can estimate how many points your son has scored. If the total is fairly high, then you are more confident that your son can have a better chance of winning in the round of discretionary places.

Do you mind telling me more about your son's achievements so that we can do the calculations together?

Jcmichelle

Hi ccspy,

Mine is a daughter not a son, She is now studying in
ccc Kei Wan (Aldrich) at P.5 only. since P.1 upto P.4,
she got top five in form. The results of P.5 at first exam still not yet on my hand, but I think she can also keep at the top five. By the way, she is a member of Symphonic Band, Orchestra, swimming team member, English speech member, drama club member, brownics and prefect. But she only got
one first round up at speech and one merit, the Symphonic Band got winner at last year and this year too. I just wonder how can a students can got so high marks at the extra-curricular (34 to 40), so I want to know how to calculate enable us to make a preparation at coming year, otherwise it is too late.

Sorry for so many qurey.


Cheers

ccspy

Jcmichelle 寫道:
Hi ccspy,

Mine is a daughter not a son, She is now studying in
ccc Kei Wan (Aldrich) at P.5 only. since P.1 upto P.4,
she got top five in form. The results of P.5 at first exam still not yet on my hand, but I think she can also keep at the top five. By the way, she is a member of Symphonic Band, Orchestra, swimming team member, English speech member, drama club member, brownics and prefect. But she only got
one first round up at speech and one merit, the Symphonic Band got winner at last year and this year too. I just wonder how can a students can got so high marks at the extra-curricular (34 to 40), so I want to know how to calculate enable us to make a preparation at coming year, otherwise it is too late.

Sorry for so many qurey.

Cheers

I totally understand the feeling being a parent nowadays in such a highly competitive education system.

As for extracurricular activities, you can consider the following activities:
member of school music teams just like your daughter in school band and orchestra, school sports team, participant in music instrumental classes, ABRSM examinations, music festival, dance classes, speech festival, reading scheme, open competitions not necessarily winning any prizes, Cambridge English tests, World Class Arena, Maths Olympiads training, Po Leung Kuk and University of New South Wales English, Maths and Science tests, girl guides/boy scouts, etc.

As for services, you can consider:
class monitor, prefect, subject coordinator, IT helper, student librarian in school, parent-child flag-selling, voluntary service in community centres, etc.

As for prizes and awards, you can consider:
all prizes including merit awards gained in internal school competitions and open competitions, certificates for academic achievements, good conduct, punctuality, etc.

I am very please that your daughter has such a lovely parent who plans ahead for her. It's never too late to amend when she is still in P5 but it'll be too late to do so when in P6 at the present time because even though you can still get some activities and awards during this period, the number of items gained may not be sufficient when compared to those who have planned ahead like your case.

One more reminder is that make full use of the time ahead and attend the S1 discretionary places talks and open days held by the schools so that you can have a timely decision well ahead of the schedule which is rather tight from the remarks expressed by those parents whose children are now in P6.

ccspy

One more point is only joining those who can provide documentary proofs like certificates of attendance or completion, activity record books as many schools want these documents as a proof for your participation. That's why many organizations issue a lot of these certificates to their participants even for flag-selling.

radiwong

Hi ccspy,
I have a daughter who will be get in to secondary 1 next year, I am thinking how to select school for her. My daughter is already in the top ten of each grade so far (from P.1 to P.6), however, she hasn't many prizes, but she has many cert. to proof study at outside of school, and also has some service in school. Under this situation, I am not sure if she will have chance if we apply CCSC 張祝珊英文中學? Pls comments.
Thanks !
Radi

Jcmichelle

Really really many thanks for your advice.




Cheers

ccspy

radiwong 寫道:
Hi ccspy,
I have a daughter who will be get in to secondary 1 next year, I am thinking how to select school for her. My daughter is already in the top ten of each grade so far (from P.1 to P.6), however, she hasn't many prizes, but she has many cert. to proof study at outside of school, and also has some service in school. Under this situation, I am not sure if she will have chance if we apply CCSC 張祝珊英文中學? Pls comments.
Thanks !
Radi

Let me analyze your daughter's situation like this. She is within top 10 of the same level each year. That means she should get very high EMB ranking, counted 50% in CCSC. If she got A grade in conduct, she would get another 10%. That is to say, she has 60% of good stake in her hand. As for ECA, services and awards, can you give me something concrete so that we can see whether she has good scores in these areas as well?

ccspy

Jcmichelle 寫道:
Really really many thanks for your advice.




Cheers

You are welcome. I just want to help as I have gone through the same process a few years ago. I understand how anxious being a parent is under such situation.

ccspy

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radiwong

Hi ccspy,
Thanks so much for your comments ! For my daughter, she has some service in school, she has been servicing library since P.4 until P.6. For ECA, she will join 1 or 2 types of ECA in every school term. For Award, she has got any award in P.4 to P.6, but she has got a 中文獨誦優良獎 in P.2. For other, she got good grade for Cambridge English movers and flyers. Also she got some cert. for reading to proof that she has borrowed many books fm school's library. Is it help to get more scores for the apply?

Best regards
Radi

ccspy

radiwong 寫道:
Hi ccspy,
Thanks so much for your comments ! For my daughter, she has some service in school, she has been servicing library since P.4 until P.6. For ECA, she will join 1 or 2 types of ECA in every school term. For Award, she has got any award in P.4 to P.6, but she has got a 中文獨誦優良獎 in P.2. For other, she got good grade for Cambridge English movers and flyers. Also she got some cert. for reading to proof that she has borrowed many books fm school's library. Is it help to get more scores for the apply?

Best regards
Radi

From your message that having 1 or 2 types of ECA in every school term plus services and Cambridge tests, it seems that she has at least 8 items for ECA. Not a bad score for a normal pupil unless the parents have specifically scheduled a lot for their children beforehand. In this case, her confidence level (what I mean is with a good chance for success) can be considered as high as about 70%, 60% on academic results and conduct as she is strong at these and conservatively with 10% on ECA. If she has got some academic or other awards, her chance can even be higher.  You can check against those items I have mentioned in the previous messages to see whether there are more missing items that can be used in her application to boast her confidence level.

radiwong

Hi ccspy,

Thank you very much for the comments !

Best regards
Radi