不公平遊戲

loyenyuet

After reading so many sharings on this subject, I think it is very difficult to say the system is fair or not.  

If the logic of the game cannot meet everyone's expectation, would it be better to change the rules a bit. Say, give a higher percentage of seats to the big lottery, maybe up to 70% of total seats, and do the big lottery first without considering any condition.  Then the rest of 30% can let the school to select whatever student they want according to whatever conditions such as old parent, elder brother/sister ot religion etc.

My point is if majority of the students can get a place first, more people would be satisfied. Then less discontent.
   

bbho

Yeah !!!!  Totally AGREE.  我細個個時，父母唔係教徒佢仲想你入，希望將神愛世人既精神傳俾其他人。 e+政府既計分方法真係 ....唉！
我問過 平等機會委員會 話唔關佢地事，係申訴專員公署負責click

man15110 寫道:
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pswci 寫道:
各位家長，唔知去平等機會委員會投訴，有冇用呢。我覺得以基督博愛精神，應該給與非教徒加分。等非教徒小朋友有機會進入教會學校，接觸耶穌基督，教導他們博愛，仁愛等理念，造福社會。我身邊有朋友為了入小學，舉家飛往菲國受洗，今天成功進入油天，晚上還舉行慶功。可憐我只有15分，被拒於門外，因我沒有同流合污。我沒有不開心，我深信小學只是人生一個階段，我的小朋友一定會堂堂正正，出人頭地。我給與他絕對的宗教自由，希望他能獨立思考，為自己人生作出決定。為了讀書而強迫信教，不是我所為。

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yanga

I think the key point of this question is : why somebody has privillage but have not?

Some marks are given to those have relationship only.  I am a parent and I really understand what a parent thinks.  The system induces parents doing something wrong.  Being a parent, you should bear the consequence of dishonesty.

youma

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SandyKL 寫道:

你真係有話你係教徒喎，「4. I can disclose to that some parents (including me)will have religious marks but hate this privilege.」只不過你冇講到自己係邊一個宗教既教徒，咁我真係誤會左你囉，因為你咁肉緊事件主角係以「歪動機」去加入天主教，所以我以為你維護緊自己所屬宗教咋，如果你唔係天主教教徒，人地以歪動機入教，再入讀天主教學校又干卿底事呢?原來你同我一樣只係路人甲乙丙架咋，咁我唔需要向你解釋咁多啦，唔怪得我講左你又唔明啦，屈左你係天主教/基督教徒真係唔好意思勒!
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既然你唔係天主/基督徒，如果我再引用經文，咁真係對牛彈琴。不過理3個比喻唔係故事，你都識糾正番我，證明你都唔係完全唔明經文所講既野，經文好淺白

judy001

The present system is not fair. Dishonesty should be discouraged. Relationship mark should not be counted for DSS school too.

yanga 寫道:
I think the key point of this question is : why somebody has privillage but have not?

Some marks are given to those have relationship only.  I am a parent and I really understand what a parent thinks.  The system induces parents doing something wrong.  Being a parent, you should bear the consequence of dishonesty.

麟媽媽

DSS一向都唔使計分架喇，
學校自己有收生權架嘛。
咁佢既收生標準係咩呢？
當中有無人靠人事關係？你話呢！？
有同無都唔到申請人嘈喇，
咩先叫公平？我真係唔知….苦了家長。

judy001 寫道:
The present system is not fair. Dishonesty should be discouraged. Relationship mark should not be counted for DSS school too.

judy001

St. Paul Co-edu admits 17 students with no relationship - a complete private party game.
But SPCC scores 2.14A per student in 2005 HKCEE - I salute to her.

DBSPD counts 10 marks with relationship/religion in the 2nd interview.
DBS scores 1.54A/student in 2005 HKCEE -
I also salute to him.

Without relationship marks, the game becomes fairer. Just a dream.


  

SandyKL

[size=small]1. IQ題: 一位[媽咪]不是教徒, 卻[將會]有宗教5分, 何解? (提示:答案有多個)

答案又真係好多喎，用出席證書都可以得到果5分喎，點估呀?估咁多又俾人話我對人不對事，仲以為我對你背景有興趣添，咪攪，費事被人屈。

[size=small]2. 又問一遍: 我幾時話過自己係教徒??? 再問, 既是理性, 便應對事不對人,找人家的背境資料來作辯論素材,是合宜嗎?

咁又係冇寫過既，又係我過人直覺。照你咁寫，原來拎理5分宗教分，可以有咁多條件及人為因素，果個飛去菲律賓家長如果識你，咁就唔洗屣錢、屣假期啦。

[size=small]3. 基督之門隨時為迷失者而開，[但人必須認罪悔改才得救恩], 因為神厭恶罪(當然包括詭詐).

請睇下我所寫: …….我既邏輯係如果你想得到「牛奶」(學位)，你咪先去慕道，[size=small]再而覺得適合既，咪洗禮入教囉……，

我幾時有表達過要欺騙神?好似一段婚姻咁，古人為傳宗接代，先盲婚後認識，繼而接受另一半，白頭到老，唔通你話古代人為傳宗接代而結婚係互相詭詐路喎?

而且你又如何得知人地快速洗禮入教係詭詐?或者佢地因此而誠心追求神的道理，追隨上帝既腳印呢? 唔係一件好事咩?都話會有最後審判咯，何需凡夫俗子亂猜別人及上帝心意?同檯食飯，各自修行，何需理會他人呢?靈修係自己既，冇人搶得去，每人既行為，無論信咩教，都會係神心目中有定位;學位有咁多，書實有得讀架，唔洗唔抵得人地既。

cmhui

彼此， 彼此

教會辦教育，用公幣來宣揚教義，
家長用領洗紙快證， 無非是讓公幣花得公平一些罷了。

何必動氣？