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發表於 05-7-26 17:04 |只看該作者

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Being a mother of a P.3 students, I have assisted my son to complete a number of projects, then I knew how a shark changed its teeth weekly, how Egpytians made a mummy (the process was quite aweful) and which is the longest river in the world.  My husband wonders if it is useful to know such things. But I myself learnt it through making those projects, I enjoy it and it can't be realistically  measure its usefullness.  

Therefore,  parents of CKY should prepare to read more books and search information from internet. As the teachers would only give students basic knowledge and encourage students (parents) to find out the rest.
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發表於 05-7-26 22:30 |只看該作者

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IH 寫道:
Being a mother of a P.3 students, I have assisted my son to complete a number of projects, then I knew how a shark changed its teeth weekly, how Egpytians made a mummy (the process was quite aweful) and which is the longest river in the world.  My husband wonders if it is useful to know such things. But I myself learnt it through making those projects, I enjoy it and it can't be realistically  measure its usefullness.  

Therefore,  parents of CKY should prepare to read more books and search information from internet. As the teachers would only give students basic knowledge and encourage students (parents) to find out the rest.


I think the most important things a child need to know is learning 'to learn'. The process to find informations is more important than the results.I really like these approach of teaching.  
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發表於 05-7-27 11:30 |只看該作者

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Isn't it a brand one school??

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發表於 05-7-27 12:41 |只看該作者

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Hello,

You can not classify this school in the traditional way. It is a new, one dragon school and you need to trust the teaching method of the school (of course you will monitor it). From the school circular, they will probably not to attend the local pri. to secondary allocation system. It means that there will not be an objective measurement about what your child had learnt during the six years of pri. studies. The measurement is always from the parent during day to day contact with your child.

In my opinion, if you let your kids study in this school, you better prepare lots of time to arouse your kids reading interest by all means(videos/books/internet/audio CD/discussions) and this function can not be replaced by hiring a private tutor. I think that is the reason the principal said parents should/need not hiring any extra tutor.

For those potential parents on this school, my advise is if you want to keep out from your kids(many parents does it since they think it is the job of school to teach their kids), you will probably come in a disaster since you can not objectively measure your kids performance and when days come, it already talking about eleven years afterwards.

From my experience, I always argue with my wife since whenever some guys discussing with her, she will frustrated and said may be we also need a private tutor to boost up my son's standard. What I explain is that please look around all those private tutor (including my self) was trained up with some kind of duck feeding method and I don't believe they can teach my son in line with the teaching method adopted in this school.

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發表於 05-7-28 21:58 |只看該作者

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Hello, Ivan,  thank you for your sharing.  Would the teacher punish students, for example: students who are over active, if they are not complied with teachers or do something wrong or day dreaming or talktive . If any, how was  the punishment.  May I know which class you are?

ctm
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發表於 05-7-28 22:33 |只看該作者

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Any summer holiday activities held by school.

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發表於 05-7-28 23:19 |只看該作者

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Hi CTM,

My class is 2C. There are many day dreaming and talktive students, they always make the english teacher angry. The punishment is stand in front of the wall or stand a class

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發表於 05-7-29 01:06 |只看該作者

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My girl is in P.2 (going to be P.3) in CKY.  She needed to do an English project in the second term.  Parents needed to help and supervise thier work as they had to find information from the internet and highlighted the relevant information useful for their project.  My daughter not only learnt a lot about the dolphin (every student chose one sea animal for research in their project), she also learnt that she had to include a book cover, a content page, a reference page in her project. She also learnt to select and arrange information she had found.  This is something only a secondary school student starts to learn and the final products of a secondary school student (of the school I taught before) may not be as well as those of CKY students from what I saw in the class observation day.
This is surely a better way than just teaching the students English grammar and doing dictations and copying vocabularies, sentences and passages as what the traditional schools do.

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發表於 05-7-29 07:12 |只看該作者

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DESP 寫道:
My girl is in P.2 (going to be P.3) in CKY.  She needed to do an English project in the second term.  Parents needed to help and supervise thier work as they had to find information from the internet and highlighted the relevant information useful for their project.  My daughter not only learnt a lot about the dolphin (every student chose one sea animal for research in their project), she also learnt that she had to include a book cover, a content page, a reference page in her project. She also learnt to select and arrange information she had found.  This is something only a secondary school student starts to learn and the final products of a secondary school student (of the school I taught before) may not be as well as those of CKY students from what I saw in the class observation day.
This is surely a better way than just teaching the students English grammar and doing dictations and copying vocabularies, sentences and passages as what the traditional schools do.


Yes, this is a good learning, my daughter learnt the same in a subsidized local school.  Projects are included in most of the traditional primary schools already.

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發表於 05-7-29 12:37 |只看該作者

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WYmom 寫道:
[quote]
DESP 寫道:
My girl is in P.2 (going to be P.3) in CKY.  She needed to do an English project in the second term.  Parents needed to help and supervise thier work as they had to find information from the internet and highlighted the relevant information useful for their project.  My daughter not only learnt a lot about the dolphin (every student chose one sea animal for research in their project), she also learnt that she had to include a book cover, a content page, a reference page in her project. She also learnt to select and arrange information she had found.  This is something only a secondary school student starts to learn and the final products of a secondary school student (of the school I taught before) may not be as well as those of CKY students from what I saw in the class observation day.
This is surely a better way than just teaching the students English grammar and doing dictations and copying vocabularies, sentences and passages as what the traditional schools do.


Yes, this is a good learning, my daughter learnt the same in a subsidized local school.  Projects are included in most of the traditional primary schools already.[/quote]

i agree that it would be an interesting way to learn but i don't think all parents have the time and ability to help the children to do projects, or some may do the most part of the projects for thier children.

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發表於 05-7-29 13:08 |只看該作者

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Hi caring_child,

That is the reason I said for those parents want their child get into this school should think carefully. Can they afford the time for the child? Not just help them to complete the project but rather the approach of helping them (Not to give everything in their hand, let them find and sort out which piece of information is relevant). Also this school try to encourage the student to speak, read and write even though it is wrong in the eyes of the parent. Normally parent will correct them before the child hand-in their work (Do you think it is the correct approach?).

Most of the traditional teaching method is discouraging since they use deducting marks to discriminate students and thus students/parents will struggle for the several marks in order to get a higher ranking (Do you also think it is worth in the learning process?). I am not comment that tradition approach is useless since the above strategy can result in a very careful child and a exam/tests driven "machine" and that is the reason for HK student always win the foreigner in the teenager period (But how about their creativity?).

So notice that placing your child in this school is much more time consuming than the traditional one which just require you to force your child to finish the homework and pass the exam/tests.

Thanks

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發表於 05-7-29 13:40 |只看該作者

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Is there any extra-curricumlar activities held by school? If yes, is it after school hours?

Thanks!

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發表於 05-7-30 07:26 |只看該作者

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Dear ctm,

I would like to share my own experience with you.

One year ago, I was called by the class teacher to discuss with her about my child's over active behavior at class.  I could only go to school after office hours and my child was "detained" in the classroom with the two class teachers in the classroom.  When I reached the school, I could see my child was doing his homework while listening to good music and eating his snack provided by the teacher.  At times, he helped the class teacher with her work and he seemed to enjoy being late at school.

The other occassion was a frankly talk with two class teachers this year.  After school as well.  The kind of "punishment" as I could see was a detailed discussion on their observation of his behavior at class, the bad things as well as the good ones with my own contribution of my observation on his behavior at home.  We just tried to find out what were the reasons for the unpopular behavior and the ways to help him so that he could have better terms with his classmates.

I understand that at times kid might find some lessons boring as he might have learnt it already, he might want to learn something more challenging or that there might be some other things that bothered him.  To pay no attention or try to get much attention or simply day dreaming might be the result.  It is important that we have to know why and try to give help to our kids.

I seldom punish my kid but I will let him know the opportunity that he would forgone like doing homework today and he could visit the Science Museum tomorrow or he set aside his homework today but finish it tomorrow.  This is his choice.

I like the way of "punishment" in CKY.  After discussing with the class teachers and a follow up talk with your kid, you know him more and you even know more of what you have to do thereafter.  This is good communication among school, parents and child and yet this is good education as well.

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發表於 05-7-30 22:52 |只看該作者

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Dear plkckykid,

Thank you for your sharing about the 'punishment'.  I agree this is a good method to teach a child.  We can communicate and understand my child through this way and 'school and family co-operation'.   

ctm
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發表於 05-8-2 10:46 |只看該作者

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Father_ho:

So how would you choose?
I totally disagree with the approach that parents help them to finish project. But are the children mature enough to handle the project? i really doubt it

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發表於 05-8-2 12:43 |只看該作者

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Hi caring_child,

It has three ways out. First, ask either parent accomplish the child (ie. resign) (the way I choose not only for the project but I know exactly the demand on this approach of learning). Second, spend lots of money hire up tutor from Mon. to Fri. to "play" with them(ie. replace the parent's function). Third, not to choose all the activity/theme type learning approach school(not just CKY). Forth, still enter this type of school and let the kids find he's way out(you can monitor/feel it but it is very difficult to turn back, teaching method are totally different, especially for the assessment scheme).

Children are of course not mature enough for the whole project. For my experience, I teach him how to search the net, he then print out lots of information. Teach him how to read and sort out which is relevant to the project guideline. Ask him to write on his own word to summarize what he realized. Lastly, put everything in order and draw whatever he like to decorate the covering.

One point I always mention to my son that it is a joy to study and not finishing anything to me or to the teacher or relate to any kind of performance measurement.

Thanks,

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發表於 05-8-2 13:20 |只看該作者

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Can anyone suggest some books and skill for teaching child to do their project?

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發表於 05-8-2 18:12 |只看該作者

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I don't  "do" homework for my kid, who is a CKY student.  I just “help” him.  All projects have to be done by him, not me.  For examples:

His Science teacher asked every student to bring one insect to school (with instruction on how to catch insect), “show and tell” the special features of the insect.  So, I helped my kid catch an insect in the garden (it was fun!), found book about that particular insect and asked him to read and memorize some important content.  Eventually, it was him presenting the insect in class, not me.

His English teacher gave him a sheet of Beatles’ song – “Yellow Submarine”, and asked every student to learn to sing it at home.  So, I helped him search the net and found the melody (I felt excited, as Beatles’ songs were forbidden at school in my young age).  I taught him how to sing, and eventually it was him singing in class, not me.

His Math teacher gave a list of household items to him, asking him to measure the height/width of each item.  I helped him hold the rulers (his hands are so small), then he marked down the measurements in the worksheet, not me.

His Chinese teacher requested every student to present a Chinese poem.  So I sought simple Chinese poem with him, explained to him what the poem mean, taught him how to write some difficult Chinese words.  He had to memorize the poem, and recite it at class, not me.

At the year-end, I received many worksheets done by my kid, of which some were similar to those I helped him before (not the same one).  They were done by my kid by himself at school.  So, I taught him once, he learned it and it became his skills and knowledge.

Neither books nor skills are required, just follow the instruction from school.

Whether you wish to “help” your kid during his/her learning process, or you wish the teacher/tutor to “stuff” your kid, it is your own choice.

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發表於 05-8-3 15:36 |只看該作者

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HELLO各位CKY家長/同學,看過很多有關學校的資料,覺得CKY在各方面都做得真的很好,還想問下:
作為'用家',你們覺得CKY有甚麼優點?
CKY有甚麼你們認為可以改進的地方?
請問CKY有幾多科係外藉老師教呀?
我見CKY的教學語言係英文,是否除中文堂外其他堂都用英文授課呢?
如本地老師授課時,他們的英語水平OK嗎?

          
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發表於 05-8-4 15:06 |只看該作者

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Hi hoeve,

1. CKY advantages should not be mentioned any more from me.
2. Obviously, CKY still has many rooms for improvement such as organizing more student activities after school. Try to tighten a bit for the homework submission(sometimes student even not submit their homework as heard from my son). Organizing more competition that not for focusing any result but let student has more showoff chance.
3. Normally, Chinese(use mandarin start from P2), and 1 to 2 subjects use Cantonese/mandarin. Others subjects all teach in English.
4. As far as I know for English and Math subject are teach by NES or ABC. Your child will soon used to it as long as he/she is starting at P1.

Thanks,
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