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原帖由 hitbadguy 於 11-3-17 05:39 PM 發表
So, do you mean that Mrs. Dai did interview all applicants 2 years ago? Then they have changed the practise and let some officials to add some magic in the 1st interview.

So, in this year, your daugh ...

hitbadguy

Still not answer the question.

Except the last message (I blame you), which sentence that I had attached you? I only summarized all the information obtained in the thread.

Why my ID is not real? I also guess that your ID is not real.

Go back to the discussion. Don't drag around.

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 13:31 發表
Why you don't think your message attacking people but the 版主's reply was attacking you?

Your name of your ID is already attacking people.

By the way, why you don't use your real ID and created a n ...

hitbadguy

I tried to summarize everything from his first post and the latest discussions. Then I discovered that lawsonmoon has contradiction in his reasoning. Then I raised question. He began to get angry and attacked me!

So, I guess there may be some misleading fact here unless lawsonmoon want to clarify.

原帖由 MyFriends 於 11-3-18 07:58 發表
Hi Mr. lawsonmoon, I am so curious on what had happened on the day of your 2nd interview that made you so angry. Did you bring along the original address proof when you attended the 2nd interview? I g ...

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原帖由 MyFriends 於 11-3-18 07:58 AM 發表
Hi Mr. lawsonmoon, I am so curious on what had happened on the day of your 2nd interview that made you so angry. Did you bring along the original address proof when you attended the 2nd interview? I g ...

[ 本帖最後由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 13:55 編輯 ]

MyFriends

It is fine to have different opinions when discussing topics like this as there is no a 'yes' or 'no' answer. Let's stick to the principle that 'Honesty is the Best Policy' and focus on the subject matter only, not on the people. As Mr. Law pointed out earlier in this thread, 'logic' or 'if...then' relationship is the basic underlying the discussion. Let's calm down and re-start!

MyFriends

So your logic is as follows:
If a school is Christian, there is no need to check the address twice (ok for once).

What you're trying to argue is the equivalence to the above:
If the school DID check the address more than once, then the school is NOT a Christian school.

As DG does not fall into your "assumption", you are very uneasy to send your daughter to the school.

Am I right? Correct me if I am wrong.

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 13:51 發表
In fact this thread is talking about WHETHER a christian school SHOULD double check applicants' address proof (this procedure) during application period. Not to discuss what they are going to use the  ...

hitbadguy

The following is your first post. Unfortunately, you amended this on last night. Then this thread began to discuss based on your proposition: 這令人有合理懷疑取錄和住址有關?

In recent discussion, I found that you have changed your position. Then I asked you to clarify.

Well, it seems that you have changed your proposition once again.


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DGJS 兩次 interview 後, 雖然未有結果, 但有感而發。

校長多次在媒體說取錄與否純看小孩面試表現。但由交報名表開始，不斷要求提供住址證明(水、電費單etc.)。我心想取錄小孩子同他們住什麽地方有何關係? 何需大費周章去查証?

這令人有合理懷疑取錄和住址有關? 不要告訴我想要平衡收生, 平均分怖每區。如果冇關係就不要這麼mean要家長不斷去提供住址證明。

[ 本帖最後由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-17 18:18 編輯 ]

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 13:51 發表
In fact this thread is talking about WHETHER a christian school SHOULD double check applicants' address proof (this procedure) during application period. Not to discuss what they are going to use the  ...

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原帖由 Go-to-school 於 11-3-18 04:12 PM 發表
Dear lawsonmoon,
Why do you think that "address vetting 去收生" is evidenced by their action of checking the original address proof?

Checking the original address proof may simply mean that the schoo ...

lawsonmoon

林超英企硬鬥孫公反對英皇縮班，理念就係讓清貧子弟繼續有機會讀名校(中西區很多名校轉了直資或私校)。
跟據你的mindset, 會唔會又懷欵林超英咁做係想佢兒子和孫兒有多些機會入英皇?

原帖由 MyFriends 於 11-3-18 07:58 AM 發表
Hi Mr. lawsonmoon, I am so curious on what had happened on the day of your 2nd interview that made you so angry. Did you bring along the original address proof when you attended the 2nd interview? I g ...

[ 本帖最後由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-22 20:22 編輯 ]

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hitbadguy

Ok! So you change back to your original proposition: 這令人有合理懷疑取錄和住址有關? Let’s discuss your case. It is a good case for us to review. This time I ask question one by one.

You believe that accepting student is based on address. Then you mentioned that DGJS have changed the practice two years ago and let some officials to add some magic in the 1st interview.

So, in this year, your daughter can pass the 1st interview due to the magic, is it correct?

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 16:25 發表
I think different people have different rationale. I cannot change your mindset and you cannot change my mindset either. According to your rationale, it's checking the accuracy. We also filled in the  ...

[ 本帖最後由 hitbadguy 於 11-3-18 17:01 編輯 ]

hitbadguy

This thread was created on the same date when you joined BK. You were also a "新加入國民" at that time.

I also suport western style education. No one there will stop other's speech of freedom. Do we in China?

BK is a free discussion platform.

However, I encourage you to discuss intead of escape when feeling that situation is not clear or not favorable to you.

We just want to clarify your proposition. If we find that it is correct, we will support!

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 16:45 發表
兩位"新加入國民" "MyFreinds" and "hitbadguy", I think we have different bandwidth or speak in different language. Pls feel free to create your own new thread for discussion.

[ 本帖最後由 hitbadguy 於 11-3-18 16:59 編輯 ]

MyFriends

Dear lawsonmoon,

As you can see, my bandwidth is simply, "Honesty is the Best Policy" and my language is consistent, logical, and impartial. I guess you are also with me, right? What else should we be using to discuss openly and frankly...

Take it easy!

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 16:45 發表
兩位"新加入國民" "MyFreinds" and "hitbadguy", I think we have different bandwidth or speak in different language. Pls feel free to create your own new thread for discussion.

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原帖由 Go-to-school 於 11-3-18 04:57 PM 發表
Good point - lawsonmoon.

However would it because the verification of address is more important as it is their practice to communicate with the parents by post in most cases (e.g. interview results,  ...

[ 本帖最後由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 17:39 編輯 ]

hitbadguy

Why avoid discussion? Why selectively to answer? We are just helping you to open the mindset logically.
If you could control yourself and think, then you might not write the sentence in your post# 124. (In fact, from the info of other parents, the "亞嬸" is the Dean of faculty or vice-principal I can't remember.) Don't just listen but think whether it is logical.

Again, your proposition may be correct. Up to now, we did not mention that there is no relationship between address and acceptance. Let’s discuss. I re-iterate the question again below.

You believe that accepting student is based on address. Then you mentioned that DGJS have changed the practice two years ago and let some officials to add some magic in the 1st interview.

So, in this year, your daughter can pass the 1st interview due to the magic.

MyFriends

You use the ORIGINAL to make a COPY of it. It wastes time, a sheet of A4 paper and the ink to make the copy because the school does not require you to bring the COPY. It is really not environmentally friendly by doing so. I think DG + SPCC just don't want applicants to waste time, paper and ink in order to be more environmentally friendly. That is why the ORIGINAL one is just enough and no need to take so much efforts and resources to make an extra photocopy.

As to your qustion regarding the difference between a copy and the original one. Try that to understand it. Show the photocopy of your HKID to the police and insist that it is enough to prove your identity. The police will tell you the difference between a copy and the original.

原帖由 lawsonmoon 於 11-3-18 17:31 發表
Do you agree checking copy is enough if for accuracy purpose?
Ask yourself what is the difference between copy and original, why need to check original:
1) copy machine has problem and producing a wro ...

[ 本帖最後由 MyFriends 於 11-3-21 10:54 編輯 ]

MyFriends

Go-to-school, agreed!

原帖由 Go-to-school 於 11-3-18 23:36 發表
Yes i understand your point.  

However, if someone is so desperate to give a false address (in a decent area) in the application, they could easily do so without producing a false address proof (e.g. ...