"Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

kawai

Dear all,

I totally agree that the bio-treatment helps immune support effectively and my son seldom got sick since he started the supplement.

Dommom,

I've read your posting on other site and knew that your son has been accepted by ESF with special support.  I really feel happy for you and wish your son all the best in the future.  

Regarding the Ozone treatment, I was told this is highly recommend by Dr Ko for those kids suffering from yeast infection.

Here's the link for your information as shown below:   

Ozone Therapy

ultramom,

I copy and paste the following for your information:

No-Fenol was developed in response to parents request for an enzyme to help children with sensitivities to foods with high levels of phenols, such as tomatoes, apples, or grapes.  Some children exhibit behavioral problems or physical symptoms such as red ears and cheeks, after eating foods with high levels of phenols.  

No-Fenol was developed by Dr. Devin Houston in response to requests for a product that would allow them to eat fruits and vegetables without the problems thought to be associated with some phenolic compounds. Initial responses from many indicate that No-Fenol can allow the addition of these foods to the diet without complications.

All fruits and vegetable contain some degree of phenolic compounds. The phenol structure itself is ubiquitous in nature, and is actually essential to many of life processes. Current thinking by many is that some have difficulty in the assimilation of phenolic compounds.

ABBmom

Dear Kawai,

These 2 days my son nearly drives me to crazy. I don't know how to distinguish his behaviour as a kid's thing or an ADHD thing. Most of the time I just look at him and don't know how to react.

Today I give him the HLC Mindlinx and find that it should be given with the meal. I remember that probiotics shouldn't be given together with the enzymes. May I know how do u solve this problem?

Also u recommended DMAE for attention before. Did yr child tried this and how about the effect? Actually my son's problem is not the attention but the behaviour. I just want to try anything that may help.

I do research in the net and find a stuff called NDF/ NDF +. Did u heard about this? When I checked how to place an order and found that they only provide to licensed health care providers. It's said to be a better chelator than DMSA but how can I buy one?

From the other topics I know u and other moms w/ smaller kids are bothered w/ what school to choose. I found that most of the kids on the spectrum can survive in an local school except they have dylexia. Of course the most important thing is they are not "too" aggressive or disturb the class routine "too much".

My suggestion is choosing a boy school for a boy. I've been a helper in school and found that most of the boys from p1 to p3 are active, can't always listen to instructions, tend to speak out w/o raising hands, and like to step out to the front from their own desk when answering questions.....It's interesting to look at them and everyone will say, "Boys are like that!"

chanchanboy

ultramom,

More about No-Fenol, please click here.

Dommom

Hi Kawai.  Actually, Dominic will be going to an ESF primary school without special support, otherwise we have to wait for another year to try our luck for the "Learning Support Class".  Now that the main stream school accepted him, I will just jump in even if he needs to repeat his primary one later.

I have many other things to worry about now, but a lot more relieved.   

ultramom

hi Kawai/chanchanboy,
唔該哂你哋提供的資料. 我估我個仔對high phenol食物真係有反應. 因為除咗香蕉之外, 早幾日晚飯後俾佢食咗3塊(3/8個)蘋果, 冇幾耐就又為咗d好少嘢發哂脾氣, 又有少少"撞頭"落地(不過今次只係"細細力").
我去揾嗰呢隻no-fenol, 不過發覺以下警告:
Contraindications for Enzyme Supplementation
This product may not be appropriate for those with known allergies to Aspergillus enzyme proteins, though non-specific mold allergies do not necessarily preclude use of fungal enzymes. Consult your medical doctor for further advice, and err on the side of caution. Those with known anaphylactic allergic reactions to fungal proteins should NOT ingest fungal-derived enzymes.
請問係唔係有yeast overgrowth問題就唔適宜食呢? 我其實都睇唔係好明, 不過見到個"fungal"字就驚...
請問你哋係on-line訂, 還是香港有得買, 定係問醫生攞?

ultramom

各位,
請問知唔知香港有冇得買以下2隻:
(kirkman)EnZym-Complete II DPP-IV Isogest™
(kirkman)Carb-Digest (with Isogest™)

請問有冇家長試過?
如果直接向kirkman訂購, 請問大約要幾耐先收到?

Justin2002

chanchanboy,

the link doesn't work, would you please send again?

My boy has yellow poo poo also and he always finds difficulty to go for poo poo!  As you mentioned, I believe he has yeast problem also!  But he eats banana, apple, pear, orange nearly everyday!  Maybe I should stop him eating banana first and see if that helps!

Justin2002

Dommom

Ultramom,

Dr. Trodd stocks the Kirkman's enzyme

(kirkman)EnZym-Complete II DPP-IV Isogest™

BUT without the "Isogest".  My kid takes it with every meal 3 times a day.

mickeyma

SOS

My son was getting more and more active recently.
Tracing back, we found it started from two months ago when Dr. Lam changed the ETDA to capsule orally taken every day. He became not easy to fall asleep and slightly more active than before. But overall performance was still ok in school. During
CNY, he was sick, so we stopped B12 injection and
supplement. Anti-biotic was given in order to heal the throwing out and diarrhoea... After he was better two weeks later after CNY, we started supplement again. Then it was the begining of the nightmare. He was complained by school: the basic rule he obeyed before, he could not keep. Walking away from his seat, rolling on his classmates while sitting on floor,
patting other kids' heads.... I discussed with Dr. Lam, he said it is up and down of the treatment process..and anti-biotic might have some affection on him.. What should I do now? stop the supplement immeidately or wait again as his problem has been lasting for more than one month now...    
It is really frustrating...

ultramom

hi Dommon,
唔該哂. dr trodd之前都開過呢隻 冇"isogest"的DPP-IV ENZYME俾阿仔食, 不過之前佢叫停咗大部份SUPPLEMENT時, 連呢隻都停埋.  所以我仲有存貨...
我今日都開始俾番呢隻ENZYME阿仔食.... 我只知要BEFORE MEAL, 同埋唔可以同PROBIOTICS一齊食, 但請問兩者之間要隔幾耐先得?

chanchanboy

Justin2002,

It seems the yahoo website needs password to read the file I mentioned.  I have send a copy to your email address.  Please check.  
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EnzymesandAutism/

Other parents interested, may be you can PM me your email address.

chanchanboy

Justin2002 寫道:
the link doesn't work, would you please send again?

MerMee

Justine2002,

Dr. Lam 話 yellow poo poo and 肚脹 are the symptons of yeast problem. 你可有拿他的 anti-fungal?

About fruits, he always strongly against grapes and apple.  好似話係果糖同畏藥特別嚴重.

Justin2002 寫道:
chanchanboy,

the link doesn't work, would you please send again?

My boy has yellow poo poo also and he always finds difficulty to go for poo poo!  As you mentioned, I believe he has yeast problem also!  But he eats banana, apple, pear, orange nearly everyday!  Maybe I should stop him eating banana first and see if that helps!

Justin2002

MerMee

Sorry I don't have much advise for you.  But I notice my son becomes so active since beginning of last week when the weather started to be so humid.

May I know why you stopped the supplements when your son got sick?  My son got quite serious cold since yesterday but I still keep giving the supplements.  I thought that will help the recovery.  Is it not?

mickeyma 寫道:
SOS

My son was getting more and more active recently.
Tracing back, ...., so we stopped B12 injection and
supplement. ... What should I do now? stop the supplement immeidately or wait again as his problem has been lasting for more than one month now...    
It is really frustrating...

kawai

Dear all,

According to the specialist's advice, we should give the probiotic at the end of the meal and the enzymes are given at the beginning or between meals.

ultramom,

Kirkman's order usually takes 1 week and it is considered as the faster services among other online purchasing.  

Dommom,

It'll be more helpful if your son can get the special support by ESF.  Don't worry too much, your son will be receiving the best education in a main stream Int'l School and a so-called "one dragon" schooling.

ABBMum,

Further to our telephone conversation today.  Please take my advice to visit Dr. Trodd for professional consultation since he's the only DAN doctor in Hong Kong.  I'm sure he can give you some solution to help with your son's problems.  Actually ADHD is quite mild among other developmental problems.  Anyway, call me if you've any further queries.

Mickeyma,

Have you tried Olive Leaf Extract yet?  I would suspect yeast overgrowth more than anything.  Another probability is the heavy metal that has been stirring and moving around the body by the ETDA.  Since your son was sick and has been stopped all supplement and chelation therapy.  Sometimes it'll get worse if the toxin wasn't removed from the body properly.  Antibiotic was another cause that make your son perform regressively.        

HayBMum

MerMee,
Did Dr Lam recommend any fruits other than apple & grape?  Very bad that these two are the most favourite fruits of my son.

MerMee 寫道:
About fruits, he always strongly against grapes and apple.  好似話係果糖同畏藥特別嚴重.

MerMee

HayBMum,
He specially suggests Kiwi because of its high vit C. If the green one is too sour, try the yellow skin one which is more sweet.  But I don't see much in the market this time.  I told him my son eats a lot of orange and banana and he said OK.

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HayBMum 寫道:
MerMee,
Did Dr Lam recommend any fruits other than apple & grape?  Very bad that these two are the most favourite fruits of my son.

Justin2002

MerMee,

Yes, Dr. Lam did mention that grapes should be avoided as far as possible because of organic pollutants.  But I gave 10+ to my son a week before after I soak for an hour and cleanse it thoroughly. Don't know if this cause trouble.  Anyway, as I mention, I shall stop banana this week to see.  For apples, I don't think Dr. Lam asked me to stop as Justin also likes to eat.

Also, during my visit on last Saturday (after yours), Dr. Lam told me that your son has shown great improvement!

Chanchanboy,

I have not yet received your email on the link.  Would you please pm me. Many thanks.

Justin2002

HelloMelody2007

ultramom,

If you don't want to wait a week for kirkman's
products. You may  contact Miss May Wu,
Kirkman's distributor (China) whose office
is located  in Fo Tan.  Call her if she got the
stock on hand. Her email address :

[email protected]

MerMee

我仔都係一星期三次 edta, 連續了三個星期都睇到佢有進步, 試過一次 (也只是那一次) 坐定定同dr lam 有一陣較長的對答. 那次 dr lam 很感動阿仔的 improvement.  但也就在那之後我開始了 dmsa, 他又退步了同發多左皮氣, 有d介左既怪習又出反來, 好多喃喃自語等.  我未 sure 關唔關dmsa 事, 但用親dmsa 個兩日咁岩都冇 poo poo, 我都有點 worry.   [quote]
stellacl 寫道:
mickeyma,

我仔仔都係食 ETDA capsule 喎 (不過而家受傷期間暫時停左 etda & dmsa), 但係一星期食3日咋喎...點解你仔仔要每天食 ?  我仲專登將 etda 同埋 dmsa 排到分開日子食 (dmsa 隔11日食3日麻).  又唔覺得有什麼大問題, 反而係食左 dmsa個人就反叛d. [quote]