分享蒙特梳利教學法part 2

JojoB

原文章由 Meredith 於 08-4-1 17:00 發表


兩位台灣老師都是ami trained的~ 一位是受過0-3歲訓練, 另一位則受過3-6歲訓練的老師及有10年經驗的蒙特梭利老師喔!

其實我之前都有考慮過BC
始終我住九龍近D呀嘛
但以我來講最大一個CONCERN係
佢細仔班係無自己人陪
重要只係得頭3日有大人陪下 咁就要佢自己一個人上
咁細個要有分離感覺
會唔會影向心理質素呢?

[ 本文章最後由 JojoB 於 08-4-2 16:39 編輯 ]

Waikiki

Meredith

係miss ellen同我講教ic班ge taiwan 老師係大學生，會唔會只係tst casa大仔班先係 ami trained呢？

zzerong626

每個小朋友都唔同, 想同大家分享下~~

我都以為宗熹(2yrs2mths)唔可以自己上, 但在 Infinity children 上左幾堂tobbler班, 佢又ok wor... Ms Kitty (orff music) 話佢依家可以自己上, 以我觀察, 宗熹只係每一段時間找我一次, 或者睇下我係咪到就繼續玩, 似乎可以慢慢唔需要我.

今日返第二堂BC, 我都為左唔影響其他幼童為大前提下, 放下宗熹自己上, 到又一城window shopping 下,食下野, 再接佢... 返到去, 宗熹竟然好似咸過的眼紅紅的,坐在近門口長椅等我, 第一時間我當然讚他好叻叻啦!

跟Ms Ellen 傾返佢好懂得忍耐,每次咸了,ms ellen 讓他收聲, 他都好合作, 忍著唔咸,還好明白事理,讓其他小朋友一起分享導師. (聽了也心酸,但忍耐是他一歲前也做的,好高興導師那麼早就發現他的優點,這倒令我意外!), 並可以看著示範教具兩次才動手, 這也令我驚喜. ......................宗熹我會讓爸爸知道,也讚你...
ellen 話如果佢不停咸會立刻call 我, 佢會觀察到小朋友可以獨立否.

何不給予你孩子多點信心, 可能有意外收獲!!!!!

不過我想問下大家意見, 因為BC要返下午班, 所以令他生命時鐘也攪亂了. 因為上午班已經full(到6-7月都未有位), 要轉校好/ 定再嘗試一個月再作決定轉否?
9am  wakeup >>milk
snack time
12nn lunch
1:30-3:30 nap time
snack time
6pm dinner
7-8pm bath
10pm  sleep
...
if go to BC >>
9am  wakeup >>milk
snack time
12nn lunch
2:15pm traffic to BC
3:30-5:30 BC class
6pm by bus /snack time
.... nap fm bus to home 9pm
9pm dinner
10pm  bath
12pm  sleep  (oh my god)....wooo

原文章由 JojoB 於 08-4-2 10:33 發表
其實我之前都有考慮過BC
始終我住九龍近D呀嘛
但以我來講最大一個CONCERN係
佢細仔班係無自己人陪
重要只係得頭3日有大人陪下 咁就要佢自己一個人上
咁細個要有分離感覺
會唔會影向心理質素呢? ...

[ 本文章最後由 zzerong626 於 08-4-2 21:19 編輯 ]

Waikiki

zzerong,
記得我嗎？一齊去上過jolly phonics的呢。
如果覺得間學校好，我會keep住，你可以比宗熹早d nap，我個女都係番下午，都堅持要佢早訓，9點，佢訓到第朝8點，咁就11點食lunch，12點nap到2點，then番學，你睇下點，唔好咁夜訓，早睡早起對小朋友好重要。

chingchingb.ma

deleted.........

[ 本文章最後由 chingchingb.ma 於 08-4-2 23:26 編輯 ]

Kate.Tong

Hello, ZZerong

My son also attend BC from Mon to Wed pm.
In fact, my son enjoy a lot. He is working with Scissor now.  He cries a lot during the 1st 2 weeks, and I wondered if I should skip. But It was OK, after two weeks. So don't worry about the crying. In the pm class, only a few toddlers there. So, your son will be given sufficient support for the separation process. Also, I think your son can expose to english and mandarin environment, that is good.
(My son's name is Chun Chun.)

Kate

JojoB

原文章由 Kate.Tong 於 08-4-3 09:31 發表
Hello, ZZerong

My son also attend BC from Mon to Wed pm.
In fact, my son enjoy a lot. He is working with Scissor now.  He cries a lot during the 1st 2 weeks, and I wondered if I should skip. But It  ...

Kate.Tong  & ZZerong
好多謝你地體驗既分享

可能我未夠放手,  所以家下adrian重食緊夜奶

JojoB

原文章由 Waikiki 於 08-4-2 22:48 發表
zzerong,
記得我嗎？一齊去上過jolly phonics的呢。
如果覺得間學校好，我會keep住，你可以比宗熹早d nap，我個女都係番下午，都堅持要佢早訓，9點，佢訓到第朝8點，咁就11點食lunch，12點nap到2點，then番學，你睇下點，唔好咁夜訓，早睡早起 ...

ZZerong
我都覺得若果你認為間學校係好既 就最好KEEP
同埋12點...好似真係夜左D....

Kate.Tong

zzeong,

Do you mind to tell which areas you live, why it take you so long time to arrive home from BC? I think any distance in HK should be able to reach within 1-1.5 hours.

(Really suggest you to one trip by taxi to reach a midpoint with direct transport to your home.)

Kate.Tong

Jojob,

I really think that Child will learn better when they are seprate from parent or caretaker. The reason why I did not bring my son to CDB is they need caretaker to accompany. Adults have many interuptions to child, too much instruction, voices, opinions, worry and even helps....etc.  I, as parent, when I obersve my son to learn new things, sometime, I still can't control myself to offer help. Too many adults at class, it turn out to be noisy and tecahers are not free to implement the teaching... Child will adapt to listen to teacher and follow rules in class more easily.

So, really no worry to have child to try separation, provided that the environment is safe and with sufficient resources to take care.

Kate

羊羊BB

睇大家分享左幾日, 都有少少想法出左來;
首先都係基於交通, 經濟同銜接問題, 我都係比吾到bb讀蒙校架la
但又好同意你地講, mont真係一套好完整, 全面同有系統既教育方法, 亦要持之以恆, 吾可以將佢當成普通課餘活動; 而認識俞多, 我對自己就俞無信心, 人地d專業導師要train甘耐, 自己點同人比, 所以我都希望比bb keep住返d mont class, 除左keep住bb progress仲keep住自己progress, 吾會偏離左軌道都吾知

zzerong626,
係law, 要搭甘耐車??同埋2個時間表好似相差好多woo....

kate.tong,
你所講係好有道理, 但奈何我都係好吾捨得果種mami, 如果要放低bb自己一個, 返到來眼紅紅果個隨時係我law, 我想到bb2岁後la, 我會著意train自己放手law...

[ 本文章最後由 羊羊BB 於 08-4-3 12:45 編輯 ]

Kate.Tong

Hello,

其實'不捨得'是正常, 最重要自己feel good 先做separation. Start from age 2 or even later is not late. 不要太worry.  Although we may not have as much knowledge or experience than 'expert', but we should be able to grow with our BB together and we should know our child best.
Be confident, when to introduce different items...to your child. Only start things when you feel good and appropriate.

Never too late, Never too bad!

Kate.

JojoB

原文章由 Kate.Tong 於 08-4-3 11:17 發表
Jojob,

I really think that Child will learn better when they are seprate from parent or caretaker. The reason why I did not bring my son to CDB is they need caretaker to accompany. Adults have many i ...

hum..你講　Adults have many interuptions to child, too much instruction, voices, opinions, worry and even helps....etc.　好岩　，　所以大人既角色好重要　同埋最好在學校同在家要一致。。因為始終佢向屋企時間係最多。

我叫做學過ＭＯＮＴＥ，亦有教導個工人該點做

不過，對於俾一個below 2既小朋友自己上堂，總是未能說服到我自己。

我曾問過有個心理學醫生朋友　佢話below 2還在建立安全感。
這樣。。我想　讓小朋友在一個佰生既環境　無佢熟式既人　果刻對佢既心理影向有幾多　below 2還在潛意識層　這種心情會否已入了佢潛識式呢？

我真係有點兒擔心。。我擔心　並不是　不信任佢能力。。某程度上　放佢向果到喊幾個星期佢該可以停　或者　叫＂習慣＂
但咁樣會否似乎迫出來　
或者我想得過頭。。。

Kate.Tong

Jojob,

你講得亦好有道理, 其實, 我不知是否有心理影響,
不過我小朋友於age 1.5 在 BC 做separation, so far, very OK.
一些意見話, 最重要讓他知道你要走開一陣 (不可偷走), 會再見的, 經過一些時間後, 會明白what is 短暫分離.

不過, 如果有Dr. say there may be some adverse effect for those below age 2, and you also have concerns, then just skip it. 安全為上.

其實, 再supplement 一下, adult at class may be good when all of them well follow through the "principle" in classroom. But still tecaher may 分心 to take care adult. If join the class with toddlers, then it may be short term, for purpose to learn with BB together and observe. Like Infinity Children, to have 8 sessions with parents and child, mainly to show parents how to work out Montessori with child.

Last, our child will grow up very quickly, so, soon they will separate from us. Do it now or till age 2 is not really very big concerns.  Relax....

Kate

JojoB

原文章由 Kate.Tong 於 08-4-3 17:18 發表
Jojob,

你講得亦好有道理, 其實, 我不知是否有心理影響,
不過我小朋友於age 1.5 在 BC 做separation, so far, very OK.
一些意見話, 最重要讓他知道你要走開一陣 (不可偷走), 會再見的, 經過一些時間後, 會明白wha ...

講開分心

我有朋友上緊Infinity Children toddler　佢都話好多家長係不停向堂上問問題 rather than教個小朋友。。以我所知Daisy係buy教育家長大前題　佢成日講　要改變小朋友　先要改變個大人
但我朋友覺得咁樣成堂個導師就被其他媽媽問問題，跟住無留意到佢既小朋友＆好嘈。

我自己陪仔上ＣＤＢ，導師講明　唔會向堂上答家長問題　
佢只做觀察　但佢亦會走來present個工作俾大人＆小朋友睇
ＣＤＢ有免費既parent & care talk講返上堂要做Ｄ乜唔可以做Ｄ乜。基本上　上過talk既都該知有乜可以做。但向堂上亦會出聲同Ｄ某Ｄ大人講該點做　如距離小朋友遠些，俾小朋友自己做　不要加手等。。同一時間亦會同小朋友講佢該要點做　如坐要拉櫈，要雙手拎工具等。。環境係唔會靜到無聲，但就唔會好嘈。ＣＤＢ都以教小朋友為主。

我個人覺得　２邊個purpose唔同　ＩＣ係想教個大人等佢返去教個小朋友。　ＣＤＢ就教個小朋友　大人係負責睇住個小朋友免得佢走來走去／影向其他人。

ＢＣ　我都有朋友讀　由於小朋友自己一個上　所以都唔係咁清楚實質係點上堂。。唔知你又知唔知呢？

Kate.Tong

Then CDB sounds good to ensure the environment is good for child. (Previously, BC do allowed parent to join in for a while, like15 minutes, but no more, I guess it may due to difficult to control parents/ maids side talks). Also, monthly parent talk in CDB is also great, which BC is not able to support at the moment.

I recall why I end up to select BC:
- located in Kowloon
- Montessori trained teachers (Mandarin and English)
- 2 hours per session
- teacher to student ratio (very low, particularly for pm class)
- more flexible payment & arrangement (if I have reasons for leave for a period, I can apply leave.)
- allow to continue to attend after my son go to pre-nursery in Sep 2008.

For BC, the problem there as you said, you may not well known what happend in the classroom. But I do occasionally call Ms. Ellen to talk about my son, like this morning.
She will tell me what my son's like to do, any special.
My son will bring home some works he did at BC, like some circle sticker, some paper. I asked Ms. Ellen, what's that, and she told me actually to train his hands to be more 仔細, 能否把 "circle sticker" 貼於指定area, and he is doing quite OK. He is also working on scissor now. I ask my son "what did you do in Ms. Ellen place? My son told me: Scissor. Then I call Ms. Ellen on more details.
(In fact, I do notice my son small changes, like he is more willing to listen to Mandarin CD, and happy to tell me he needs to go to Ms. Ellen's palce...etc)
So, in BC, you may need to talk to teacher to know more.  Simple call them for few minutes talk.

Of course, if you have time to accompany the child to withness all, that will be very good. You are a very good mother.

By the way, how old is your son? How long he attend CDB?

zzerong626

Kate
i remember chung chung!!!  and saw he was doing the scissors~~ very nice wor... 原來係同學仔wor
i am glad to hear from you.   do u know now pm class have 7-8 toddlers there. it's very crowd actually.

I lived in TKO, MTR was the best way of traffic.  He love to take bus so did it when back home.  As detail, TKO to KT was half an hour only, but i need to walk 10 mins to BC after MTR station. 係辛苦d , 不過如果佢係好既,都值得.  
Actually take taxi each trip, it's very expensive as a poor mom.  

I was agreed with interruption of adult...   AGREE

Waikiki, JojoB
我都想, 越叫佢訓佢就唔會訓, 就算無晒人理佢, 佢都訓唔著... wooooo.... it's very hard to change his lifestyle.  佢都好慘架.

JojoB
if below 2, i agree with you.  Then you can start after 2!

[ 本文章最後由 zzerong626 於 08-4-3 21:09 編輯 ]

波羅包

Hi Kate.Tong,

我個小朋友都係返bc星期一至三pm,佢叫 fai fai 呀!

Kate.Tong

菠蘿包, zzerong,

Hello, nice to meet you. We have 3 classmate here now, including my son chun chun, faifai and zzerong' bb.

Is faifai a girl or boy and how long did you join BC?

Anyway, nice to meet you all here.

zzerong626

你講得好岩, 宗熹都係上呢個toddler班, 好在係星五連orff music, 否則就好唔底, 你朋友提到的問題連我工人都留意到, 我都唔知Daisy會否在第八堂後才跟每位家長講解所得之觀察結果, 我仲等緊呢一刻. :;pppp:
不過Ms Kitty 真係教得唔錯. 好吸引到我囝, 佢好少禁投入.
有時會係geography song / phonic song.... 多元化, 佢把聲仲好好聽.

原文章由 JojoB 於 08-4-3 17:44 發表


講開分心

我有朋友上緊Infinity Children toddler　佢都話好多家長係不停向堂上問問題 rather than教個小朋友。。以我所知Daisy係buy教育家長大前題　佢成日講　要改變小朋友　先要改變個大人
但我朋友覺得咁樣成 ...