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cowmoon

Bobbycheung,

Agree. 他真係幫左 ESF Admin 好多，證明比 ESF Admin 睇，這個世界上係有人同佢活在同一個星球的。

唔緊要架，每人都有每人的睇法。只希望自己的子女在球場上不要遇著這個星球的人。

我覺得最慘的是其他持不同想法的 ESF 家長及學生。真是對他們很不公平！當 ESF Admin 處理事情時，有沒有咨詢其他 Stakeholders 的意見？我有的朋友的子女在 ESF Schools，他們也覺得 ESF Admin 處理不當啊，what a shame!

我想這裡不少網友（包括我自己）的子女也是 International school 的學生，我非常不甘別人就 generalize 一句國際學校就係咁樣 (好似 ESF Admin 咁)，國際學校有的家長只會說 "Pls take it easy", 而國際學校的學生就是會這樣粗野的。

So sad.

baby8

Is no.2 parents attending the match ?

Chole

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Well said.  

baby8

My experience is that students at that U12 age group don't even want their parents be there or at least keep far away from them.  Is it common ?

baby8

What ESF Admin can do as it draw more and more attention ?

bobbycheung

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Frankly, I was at first appalled and shocked by the ESF boy's deliberate kick which was clearly aimed at the Kitchee boy's face.  I mean how could a boy do that in a football match?  Then when I watched the video again, I was even more upset by the ESF coach's action (or rather inaction by not restraining his players). .I thought the ESF coach had at least as much to blame as the ESF boy.  But then it came the ESF's response which tops it all.   I was thinking how come an education institute can not tell what is right and what is wrong?   If the management or top people of an education institute refuses to admit wrongdoing (despite solid evidence) but instead lays the blame on others, how could we expect them to teach our kids properly?   Should we parents just let them gloss over it and let it be forgotten?  I really can't think of a reason why ESF acts that way.  Just a wild guess.  Could it be that the ESF boy (or his parent) is someone important so that they have to protect him at all costs?      

baby8

Henry call police, u call police, everybody call police,   No. 1 man in police should thank all of those calling them after HKU event.

bobbycheung

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You comment about wearing knee pads in football matches already showed how much experience you have with football.

bobbycheung

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"What ESF Admin can do as it draw more and more attention ?"

Not much other than to say thank you to you.

baby8

It is the problem of my English.  The pad that cover the lower part of our leg is called ?  I just can't figure it out.  Sorry for misleading u bobby.

bobbycheung

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It's OK.  They are called shin pads.  By the way, just a personal question.  Does your kid go to ESF?  I am just curious.  Feel free to ignore my question if you feel it is too personal.

PS.  Sorry, I have just found out that your kid goes to South Island.  

baby8

Should they offer one for us ? just kidding.

baby8

If they do, I will definitely accept it providing I got the money to pay for it.

bobbycheung

baby8 發表於 12-3-15 01:34
Should they offer one for us ? just kidding.

Offer what?  You mean offer a thank you to you?  If I were you, I would keep my identity confidential.  If ESF knows who you are, they might kick your kid out.   Just kidding!

baby8

But I would join the winning team for training.  Not kidding.

friendlyguy

Baby8,

Please be reminded that foul play could be a criminal offence and someone had been put into jail for this!

http://www.independent.co.uk/new ... l-play-1577101.html

baby8

Thks for sharing friendlyguy.  I just don't know why specifically reminding me ?    I am just passing by and hoping that it won't happen anymore.  

bobbycheung

baby8 發表於 12-3-15 02:21
Thks for sharing friendlyguy.  I just don't know why specifically reminding me ?    I am just passin ...

baby8,

I guess it's because everybody realises how serious the incident was except you..  You said:-
"...Why not offer a place for the No.2  Lions in 傑志 ?  Teach him how to play in the right way  and not just accusing him etc....."
"......佢唔係要去傑志學嘢, 係要去赤柱監獄受訓囉 !"  Are u the victim please?   "赤柱監獄" ? U12? Just clam down....."
These comments give people the impression you don't think it's all that serious.

By the way, after watching the video yourself, you still made this comment "....What happened if no one take a video ?  And even if there is video, who should be blamed for ?...".   It seems that you don't think there is anything wrong with the ESF boy's action.  Being a South Island School parent yourself, I am afraid your comment does give people the impression that you are bias towards ESF.  I would suggest that people should look at this matter objectively.

Of course. you may suspect that both teams played roughly in that match (as the organiser of the league matches said in their finding) and it's not only ESF who made the fouls.  But even in those circumstances, there is still no justification for the ESF boy to deliberately kick someone else's face in.  No, there is really no excuse for that.  What is infuriating is that the ESF coach didn't check the Kitchee boy's injury or offer any apology.  He just ran into the pitch asking the parents to get out.  What happened if the match had continued and the Kitchee boys retaliated by kicking ESF boys' face in?  Or the ESF boys might think it's OK to kick other's head because their coach said nothing.  So what happened if the ESF boys continued to aim their kicks at Kitchee boys' face and bodies?  Do you really think the ESF coach was acting correctly in the way he did?      

cowmoon

一直也很奇怪這裡其中一位家長的評論，為什麼他是這麼的“排眾獨議”的，不停地 post 只有一兩句的 comment 或在問左問右，但他又像是一點火也沒有。。。愈覺得他像在扇風點火似的。
其實他的position 是什麼？
是不是在“苦肉”，讓這一件事繼續長霸 forum 的 top hit，讓大家繼續討論。
有會不會他真的是站在 ESF admin 那一邊，企圖在 BK 挑起大家的情緒，希望引起大家不理性的互相攻擊，好讓 ESF admin 有“理由” 去 claim 網上有大量有攻擊性而不公平的指控。
又或者，他是想靠害一眾 international schools 的家長和學生，讓其他人誤會我們的主流意見。我在自由講場看到有人 quote 了他的 comment，憤怒地說“你們看在國際學校果邊有家長咁講..."

無論如何，我就不會再回答那一位家長的 comment 或 question. 我只會繼續去理性討論這件事，希望事件最後能有一個合理的解決。

acdad

bobbycheung 發表於 12-3-15 01:15
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Frankly, I was at first appalled and shocked by the ESF boy's deliberate kick whi ...

Totally agree!  Very poor handling and PR  on  this matter....