入拔萃之路

cellojoyce

Students are expected to learn musical instruments other than piano because it's not an orchestral instrument.  The rationale behind is to let students get involved in school teams like orchestras and bands, so as to enhance their team spirits and cooperations,etc.

原帖由 icbb1230 於 10-12-30 17:07 發表
sometimes, I don't know why piano isn't count as a musical instrument, it is, right? Only because of too many kids know how to play piano, then it isn't count.  With this logic, there could be so many ...

星歷仔ccsclh

原帖由 youma 於 11-1-1 20:36 發表


運氣很重要?
唔知兩拔的校長老師和家長看到這見解會有何感想?

從你的言論不難推斷你小朋友是考拔的失敗者
你亦似乎有很多不滿和反面問題
除了你常強調的家庭背景外，可否和大家BK家長分享一下失敗的原因（正如其他和你分享成功原因的家長一樣）
相信只要家庭背景清白（又不是入警校）
，沒有一間學校會拒收出色的學生

LesMis99

With reference to my earlier claims that luck accounts for more than 50% during the selection process, I knew a couple of examples that DBS accepted those being turned down by Raimondi and also that DGS accepted someone who was also turned down by Raimondi as well. What I have learnt from these examples is that there are no universal selection criteria that can be used to explain all the cases. It all depends on "personal preferences" of the school principal (Mrs Dai). Who cares about the reasons!!! No matter what the selection criteria are and how well the child performs during the interview, the principal (Mrs Dai) has the utimate discretionary power which you and me will never know except herself.

＊star＊

原帖由 youma 於 11-1-1 20:33 發表








原來如此, 咁請問邊間面試班最好?

你想的太多啦！我不是推介任何野,我覺得一味強調背景會誤導下一屆考小一的家長。

fennieho

十分認同!面試成功與否亦不代表小朋友的資質好壞!
幸運的人當然認為自己的小朋友特別叻,但有些小朋友即使學業成績超叻但面對面試或要臨場表現時亦未必一定發揮得好!
所以我個人認為有幾多offer都唔重要,最重要入咗去"名校"後是否跟得上!(我所指嘅跟得上係小朋友嘅成績和家長嘅壓力)
相信大家都知現在的名校,特別係學費最貴果幾間,大部份真的是中產以上家境的子弟讀,有的甚至是達官貴人非富則貴,小朋友在朋輩間互相比較羨慕妒忌在所難免吧!如果並非這種家底的父母,真的要做好心理準備去輔導你的小朋友了!

原帖由 bobbbby 於 11-1-1 13:22 發表
少／無offer嘅家長，付出未必比多offer嘅家長少，唔可以用結果來衡量付出幾多，付出與收成，未必成正比。

youma

原帖由 ＊star＊ 於 11-1-2 00:35 發表
你想的太多啦！我不是推介任何野,我覺得一味強調背景會誤導下一屆考小一的家長。

你想的太多啦！建議你從頭到尾看看我的發表. 是否我[一味]強調背境.



1.
[家庭背境]不單單指是金錢地位, 也可以是父母的政經教育等等背境.
2.
誤導下一屆考小一的家長? 唔係掛? 唔通 [家庭背境]都有得谷?
3.
我說[家庭背境]最重要, 因為兩拔極重視家庭的資源, 投放和對學校的貢獻.我說出來是因看到題主GAT沒有提到.
4.
我並不是說[家庭背境]是唯一的收生條件, 事實上亦有自認所謂普通家庭的叻仔叻女入到DBSPS/DGJS, 只是我認為佢地大多唔算普通, 起碼交得起$4000學費和各式各樣的學習, 佢地只是[相對地]普通.
5.
當你入了DBSPS, 便發覺有些學生表現只是普普通通, 但家勢就絕不普通. 姍姍個女便是一例, 而我亦覺得很合理很公平, 始終這是直資.
6.
面試班其實作用不大, 父母自己跟小朋友做一兩次模擬便足夠.
7.
最後贈多句, 兩拔F5/F6 時考最勁的學生不少都不是自己小學上來的… 讀書始終是靠父母靠自己, 不是靠學校.

youma

原帖由 星歷仔ccsclh 於 11-1-1 22:44 發表


從你的言論不難推斷你小朋友是考拔的失敗者
你亦似乎有很多不滿和反面問題
除了你常強調的家庭背景外，可否和大家BK家長分享一下失敗的原因（正如其他和你分享成功原因的家長一樣）
相信只要家庭背景清白（又不是入警校）
，沒有一間學校會拒收出色的學生...

本來好想回答閣下所有的問題,但閣下還未回應本人的問題, 便提出質問, 是否有點不禮貌?

ysnmama

非常同意.

有不少學校收的孩子. 不會抹煞他們自己及家長的努力. 但考小學成績不理想的. 也不代表他們自己實力比較差及家長沒努力的.

面試當中有很多因素影響結果. 臨場表現亦佔很大因素. 就像表演彧比賽. 任憑事前如何努力多長時間. 預備了多久, 綵排時如何的好. 如果正式時. 也可能有差錯.也影響了成績.

不少孩子性格比較慢熱, 緊張或內歛. 他們不合適面對面試. 但因為學術本身是高. 到後來可以插班到曾在考小一時拒絕了他們的學校. 成績更比其他當年一考便考入的其他學生好. 所以真的日後才會路遙知馬力.

原帖由 fennieho 於 11-1-2 00:55 發表
十分認同!面試成功與否亦不代表小朋友的資質好壞!
幸運的人當然認為自己的小朋友特別叻,但有些小朋友即使學業成績超叻但面對面試或要臨場表現時亦未必一定發揮得好!
所以我個人認為有幾多offer都唔重要,最重要入咗去 ...

LesMis99

Let's focus on the whole interviewing process. First, no interviews with parents are involved. Second, there is no reference checking on the invalidity of all the information submitted to the school except the results from the kid's kindergarten. The kid is the theme of the whole interviewing process. As far as I understand, the school does not check one's family background before they make an offer. Based on the obsevations, I don't think they really take into account the background into consideration in the final stage. Whether or not a good family background (or simply money) can lead to a good persoanlity, I really don't think so. As I said before, parents' model examples are what the children follow. They are by instint a copy 'cat' during this age. If one really wants to find out and explain why a child gets in while the other is rejected. I think the best way is to review how well one teaches their kids. Apart from that, luck is everything!

星歷仔ccsclh

是你一味問人,批判及下結論.
自已的經歷卻隻字不提
這不是BK的公平分享原則
失敗的個案也值得大家參考
似乎非常不禮貌的.... 各BK家長自有公論

星歷仔ccsclh

你又不是兩拔的Alumni及Parents
就諸多批判
你又沒有親眼親耳得知自已小朋友的小拔面試過程,肥咗就多多抵賴....
人家說的(成功而又是普通家庭)你又不信,或說只是少數
4000HKD 學費?相信很多家長節衣縮食也會俾.
不要罵了,就叫兩拔明天call 你,給你一個位吧!
或坐Doraemon 的時光机,回去你的school time, 發奮讀書打好自已的學歷,專業和家底, 那一切就迎合閣下的入拔結論了啊!

＊star＊

[quote]原帖由 youma 於 11-1-2 09:09 發表


首先我係想分享,我強調如果小朋友膽小或活躍可以返某d班,如果小朋友淡定膽大咁係可以自己練。至於誤導d家長,係我身邊有朋友都係見到關於拔萃d言論,佢地都唔敢去報名。ok,講清楚我不再回應此主題啦！

kellyjason

I support you, I do not agree admission of P1 depends on $ or family background.

原帖由 星歷仔ccsclh 於 11-1-2 12:51 發表
你又不是兩拔的Alumni及Parents
就諸多批判
你又沒有親眼親耳得知自已小朋友的小拔面試過程,肥咗就多多抵賴....
人家說的(成功而又是普通家庭)你又不信,或說只是少數
4000HKD 學費?相信很多家長節衣縮食也會俾.
不要 ...

LesMis99

I believe the number of viewers on this topic will rise further and should easily surpass 100,000 or more by the time schools begin to invite application for P.1 later the year.

This chat should by no means be used as a tool to attack people with different opinions. Let's focus on our own experiences, successful or fail, in order to help others who are to pick their own dream schools soon.

I am sure if a child is placed in the TOP 5% in 'any' primary school, he/she will definitely be welcomed by the top schools like DBS/DG/SPCC/ etc ... irrespective of his/her family background. I think we should not place too much emphasis on a particular school (like DB/DG/SPCC). I believe also that if a child is ranked BOTTOM 5-10% in DB/DG, I am sure that he/she will feel no better than anyone scoring similar rank in other schools.

Let's talk about fact and not to force your subjective thinkings on others. I really hope that this topic will become a useful source of information to benefit other potential applicants.

bobbbby

同意，BK是一個公開的網上交流平台，大家可以自由發表個人意見或感受，是分享或是炫耀，在於看者心態，但請注意，當大家提及一些事件或歷史時，請確定其真實性，而非訛以傳訛。

原帖由 talent2000 於 11-1-2 14:18 發表
Everyone holds own Value of this shool. Once you do not hurt others, your view is welcome to most of parents. Different view creates intelligence!

DGJS

入不到的家長當然只信自己實力没有其他家長的高.

OK! 不是小朋友有问题, 是家长有问题.

原帖由 AlanShirley 於 11-1-2 15:23 發表
入到的家長當然只信係靠小朋友自己實力.