名校會考成績一覽

hui916

喇沙與聖士提反書院之前同樣係津校, 為什麼兩者的成績差異如此巨大, 除了教學方法外, 我認為可能原因如下:

1. 在自行收生部份, 喇沙錄取得肯定都是尖子. 相反, 由於地理位置及其他原部, 報讀聖士提反的都不是一流學生.

2. 在教署統一派位部份, 喇沙也吸納了Band 1頭的學生, 聖士提反只能數被分配Band 2(可能是舊制下Band 3, Band4)

原帖由 aryee 於 09-12-4 15:59 發表


或者咁講，ls可能真係教得其法，正如好馬遇著伯樂一樣。
至於d數字，就真係唔知，可能係錯；又可能，原來我地一直以為既名校，原來係「浪得虛名」。時代不斷改變，有d名校只係食緊老本，有d地區學校又漸漸冒起。 ...

vienpa

原帖由 judy 於 09-12-4 16:04 發表


我經指引上了那條link，幾乎暈低。

表a，符合報AL要求的首次報考考生為55.1%，而首次報考考生而6科有14分的有54.7%。所以14分的正正有30%。

表b有問題。六科最高的首次報考日校考生 ...

係呀, 我都睇左好耐先印証到日校學生係36%, 6科>14分..你計就係for首次報考考生30%..所以有多少分別...我諗日校考生高d係因為有重考生因素...

你個數可能更有代表性, , 一估就中...

[ 本帖最後由 vienpa 於 09-12-4 16:59 編輯 ]

ipod1

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-4 16:11 發表


可能是津校時期收落既學生, 以後仲有幾年等佢地grad 哂清淤血!

小學成為直資後所收既學生有牌都未升F.6, 真係唔知會係咩野成績, 我唔求好多A, 但係平均14分都無真係很差 ...

"以後仲有幾年等佢地grad 哂清淤血!"

你此句說話實在太過偏頗. 你憑甚麼說津貼時期收的就是瘀血? 難到以往聖保羅男女, 拔萃男/女等等 不是津貼學校? 為何它們的整體成積(學術及非學術)由始至終也領先其他津貼學校?

你的說法對現時在官立及津貼學校讀書的大部分香港小學生公平嗎?

hui916

你倆應屬不同年代:

1. 中文暫取生實施的年份在1984-1990. 主要收取會考尖子, 不一定有6A. 暫取即係Provisonal Admission. 學生需要在中六校內成績基本合格.便可以無需考H-Level或A-Level直入中大.

2. 由於暫取生是中大明顯地偷步收生, 引致港大強烈不滿. 1991開始, 推出了六校聯合招生. 暫取生自1991年取消.

3. 自91年起, 教統局仍然容許中大有3-4年的時間以會考成績收取中六生. 不過中大給的是Firm Offer, 即無條件讀完中六直入, 無須看校內成績. 跟暫取生有所不同.

4. 之後港大及科大亦相繼推出類似計劃.  

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-4 10:44 發表


well, may be we are from different "generation"

we didn't need to pass the exam administrated by CU after F.6. it seemed that we needed to at least perform not too bad in F.6.  

hui916

大家唔好傷和氣. 我認為就算同樣係津校, 但派位的學生Banding可能校相差很遠, 聖保羅男女, 拔萃男/女以前津校年代收的肯定是Band 1頭. 故質素可以保持到.

另外, 30%自行收生也具有決定性的影響. 中學這30%不是看世襲, 純粹看成績課外活動.

原帖由 ipod1 於 09-12-4 17:10 發表


"以後仲有幾年等佢地grad 哂清淤血!"

你此句說話實在太過偏頗. 你憑甚麼說津貼時期收的就是瘀血? 難到以往聖保羅男女, 拔萃男/女等等 不是津貼學校? 為何它們的整體成積(學術及非學術)由始至終也領先其他津貼學校 ...

littlemak

原帖由 aryee 於 09-12-4 15:59 發表


或者咁講，ls可能真係教得其法，正如好馬遇著伯樂一樣。
至於d數字，就真係唔知，可能係錯；又可能，原來我地一直以為既名校，原來係「浪得虛名」。時代不斷改變，有d名校只係食緊老本，有d地區學校又漸漸冒起。 ...

good point. agree.

littlemak

原帖由 ipod1 於 09-12-4 17:10 發表


"以後仲有幾年等佢地grad 哂清淤血!"

你此句說話實在太過偏頗. 你憑甚麼說津貼時期收的就是瘀血? 難到以往聖保羅男女, 拔萃男/女等等 不是津貼學校? 為何它們的整體成積(學術及非學術)由始至終也領先其他津貼學校 ...

Dear ipod1,

pls don't be angry with fsforth, I think she/he doesn't mean that all govt/subs school students are all bad. he/she just mean that the band 3 students may take up lots of seats in SSC at F.1 few years ago. sometimes I did the same mistake in using the wrong words and easily offend others, sorry sorry !

haha, i was also from a N.T. subs school (nobody heard abt, even now) but I think I am quite okay, can survive lah.

So, let's just share info and comments here, not share anger, ok? pls smile .....

littlemak

wow, hui916, you are so "ging" !
are you from the edu dept? you remember so well these history and info!
I almost forget how to mark the scores of my HKCEE results lah! A=5? B=4?

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-4 17:16 發表
你倆應屬不同年代:

1. 中文暫取生實施的年份在1984-1990. 主要收取會考尖子, 不一定有6A. 暫取即係Provisonal Admission. 學生需要在中六校內成績基本合格.便可以無需考H-Level或A-Level直入中大.

2. 由於暫取生是 ...

judy

原帖由 vienpa 於 09-12-4 16:54 發表


係呀, 我都睇左好耐先印証到日校學生係36%, 6科>14分..你計就係for首次報考考生30%..所以有多少分別...我諗日校考生高d係因為有重考生因素...

你個數可能更有代表性, , 一估就中... ...

日校和首次日校分別不大。你我最大的分別是我引用表a"符合報考2010年高級程度會考要求的考生人數及百分率"，而你引用的是"會考成績達五科第2等級或E級或以上的考生人數及百分率"。

littlemak

hui916,

hi, you are very informative. your analysis is great, it explains my queries.
however, why most band 1 choose LS but not SSC? convenient site? free of charge? and why during the 2nd part Govt sending those band 2-3 students to SSC? is it because the primary students SSCPS also mostly comprise of band 2-3 ? if so, no wonder the school principal was so happy to announce the increase in no. of band 1 students in her school report (may check via the school web 2008)

so, it seems there is a vivicious cycle:
if one school is band 1, it may always be, as it can take up band 1 students year after year, and the band 1 students are eager to apply this school year after year. this mechanism is difficult to be broken.
but then if one school is labelled "band 3", it may be very hard to "up level". difficult to "wash bottom".

is this the story?

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-4 16:53 發表
喇沙與聖士提反書院之前同樣係津校, 為什麼兩者的成績差異如此巨大, 除了教學方法外, 我認為可能原因如下:

1. 在自行收生部份, 喇沙錄取得肯定都是尖子. 相反, 由於地理位置及其他原部, 報讀聖士提反的都不是一流學 ...

[ 本帖最後由 littlemak 於 09-12-4 18:13 編輯 ]

littlemak

haha, but the "boarding life" is one of the greatest attraction to me! that's why i would apply for this school and wanna send my kid there to "train him up"!!
I myself enjoyed boarding life a lot at my young times!

原帖由 kaifu 於 09-12-4 16:50 發表
Oh yes, my parents always frightened to send us there if we did not behave because it is a boarding school and we could only go home once a week!

judy

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-4 16:52 發表


sorry for not being able to understand your querry about table 6b.

According to table 6b,達到若干最好六科總積點的首次報考日校考生人數均大於達到同一總積點的只包括兩科語文均達第2等級的首次報考日校考生 ( ...

akusensei,

表名叫"2008 年會考考生成績最好六科的積點統計"，中英两科，應全港首次應考的都要報。

最好六科，可不包括中英文。

只包括兩科語文均達第2等級的最好六科(不能理解成只有中英两科，因表名叫"2008 年會考考生成績最好六科的積點統計")，限制更大，所以%無可能此最好六科大。

littlemak

fsforth,

think positively: if our kids are lucky enough to get into this school, then the % of >14 marks will surely increase! bcos we are devoted parents and our kids are not stupid! heehee.

(as most of the BK moms here, work so hard, pay so much efforts, to educate and help their kids)

hence, the school may change bcos of good parents and good kids!
(haha, just dreaming, i am only on their waiting list!)

littlemak

yes, I have met few SSC and SSCPS students and they impressed me much. They are gentle, polite, nice and friendly. One thing in common, they all said they loved the school and they enjoyed the school life a lot.
Moreover, the amount of assignment is reasonable. There are many (8?) NS and their bilingual edu seems successful. The teachers (inc. NS) are friendly and caring to the kids (those met in the interview).

May all these good supports help the new batch students to score better for the school.

原帖由 cmchang0927 於 09-12-4 16:23 發表
For the results, I m not sure, but the students itself apparently looks "better"
I saw SSC students now and they look different from our years, glasses, gd boy/girl hair style, etc... For our ...

vienpa

原帖由 judy 於 09-12-4 18:01 發表


日校和首次日校分別不大。你我最大的分別是我引用表a"符合報考2010年高級程度會考要求的考生人數及百分率"，而你引用的是"會考成績達五科第2等級或E級或以上的考生人數及百分率"。 ...

Good to see your point. Anyway the minor figure difference is not a concern, we all just want to understand the general figure as the basis for comparsion.

judy

原帖由 judy 於 09-12-4 18:11 發表


akusensei,

表名叫"2008 年會考考生成績最好六科的積點統計"，中英两科，應全港首次應考的都要報。

最好六科，可不包括中英文。

只包括兩科語文均達第2等級的最好六科(不能理解成只有中英两科，因表名叫"2008 年會考考生 ...

我知我錯咩啦！

我只看%，不看真實數字。真係蠢過隻猪。

唔該曬。

hui916

I was among the students admitted to CU in 1991. So I could remmeber all details clearly. Time flies!

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-4 17:55 發表
wow, hui916, you are so "ging" !
are you from the edu dept? you remember so well these history and info!
I almost forget how to mark the scores of my HKCEE results lah! A=5? B=4?

littlemak

icic, i am too old lah!

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-4 18:43 發表
I was among the students admitted to CU in 1991. So I could remmeber all details clearly. Time flies!

hui916

You are right in saying that that the system is like a self-perpectuating mechanism. Top schools will continue to attract the best students, which will in turn yield positive output in public exams. This is so-called "Virtuous Circle".

On the other hand, 2nd tier or 3 tier schools will find it hard to recruit top students, resulting in a "vicious circle". In my view, teachers and teaching methodology play a very marginal role.

Hopefully, with the new 334 curriculum in place, those traditionally famous schools will no longer domininate the public exams.

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-4 18:04 發表
hui916,

hi, you are very informative. your analysis is great, it explains my queries.
however, why most band 1 choose LS but not SSC? convenient site? free of charge? and why during the 2nd part Govt ...

cmchang0927

haha, but it's also easier for the kids to fall in love during the boarding life......... for our years, many boarders have girl/boy friends leh......... But I think it's one of the life stage of our kids, it will happen in some time anyway. I remembered one of my friends (her bf and her were the boarders) got caught by her mom on the street.   The mom was so angry and told the boy off on the street.  Then she went to tell our class teacher.  At the end,  they pretended that they broke up but in fact they were still together.  

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-4 18:07 發表
haha, but the "boarding life" is one of the greatest attraction to me! that's why i would apply for this school and wanna send my kid there to "train him up"!!
I myself enjoyed boarding life a lot at  ...