請問有冇小朋友學過公文式既媽咪可以分享一下?

十月媽咪

SumSumBB,

唔係啩? 你望左佢一眼, 就知佢乖? 佢激到我噴血嗰陣, 你又唔知啫! (由三歲開始, 每半年佢就會有一個魔鬼期, 嗰個魔鬼期, 我真係想掟佢落街的, 激到我得番半條命, 而呢個魔鬼期, 每次大約維持1-2個月)

咦, 如果你個仔平時係用英文唻解釋英文生字, 咁我諗你要同老師傾一傾呢個問題, 其實我諗老師係想MAKE SURE佢識得嗰個字係點樣解, 我諗唔一定要用中文解釋的, 如果佢可以用到英文去解釋, 我諗應該都可以架, 你試下問下老師啦!

好似我女呢D, 好日都唔講句英文既, 你叫佢用其他英文句子去解釋一個英文生字, 真係搵佢唻搞, 所以一定係用中文去解英文的, 但如果你仔既習慣唔係咁, 你真係要同老師反映, 免得老師以為佢唔UNDERSTAND嗰D字!

原文章由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-17 19:32 發表


十月媽咪,
婷婷好叻，今日第一眼見到佢就feel到佢係頂乖的學生！
咦...我仲未收到上星期個評估個RESULT喎！？

今日老師話阿仔識讀英文，但就唔係好識解釋返做中文...我真係抓晒頭，可能我對公文英ERP認識不 ...

SumSumBB

原文章由 十月媽咪 於 08-7-17 19:40 發表
SumSumBB,

唔係啩? 你望左佢一眼, 就知佢乖? 佢激到我噴血嗰陣, 你又唔知啫! (由三歲開始, 每半年佢就會有一個魔鬼期, 嗰個魔鬼期, 我真係想掟佢落街的, 激到我得番半條命, 而呢個魔鬼期, 每次大約維持1-2個月)

咦, 如果你個仔平時係用英文唻解釋英文生字, 咁我諗你要同老師傾一傾呢個問題, 其實我諗老師係想MAKE SURE佢識得嗰個字係點樣解, 我諗唔一定要用中文解釋的, 如果佢可以用到英文去解釋, 我諗應該都可以架, 你試下問下老師啦!

好似我女呢D, 好日都唔講句英文既, 你叫佢用其他英文句子去解釋一個英文生字, 真係搵佢唻搞, 所以一定係用中文去解英文的, 但如果你仔既習慣唔係咁, 你真係要同老師反映, 免得老師以為佢唔UNDERSTAND嗰D字!

今日我中途返左去幾次偷望佢地，你囡囡眞係好乖好定，至於你話的魔鬼期，我都好明白，我都經歷緊！

阿仔現在可以用簡單的英文句子對答，有時講中文見我地唔明，會用英文搭夠，佢語文能力都算唔錯的。
其實，7A好多生字都係名詞，都唔駛點解釋，但老師要求阿仔見到個琴講piano係唔夠的，要知道piano解作「鋼琴」，講真阿仔識唔少樂器名，如xylophone, trumpet, bass...但就未必講得出個中文名係木琴、喇叭、低音大提琴，但我個人認為咁又唔可以代表佢唔識，話晒現在只係讀英文，又唔係讀常識/翻譯！

Little_Princess

SumSumBB,

My daughter got the same problem as your son.  Actually, we are in the same Kumon Centre.  haha...

I told Ms. Yeung that she can express the meaning in action or picture or English but may not in Cantonese.  To her, the Chinese meaning is another phase to learn.  For example, proud = 驕傲.  Definitely, she doesn't know the meaning of 驕傲.  If I need her to memorize proud = 驕傲, she is learning 2 phases.  Though she remember, she may not know the exact meaning of proud or 驕傲.  

Ms Yeung knows her problem but again, she told me that if she cannot express the meaning, she would not know whether she really knows the answer.  Her guideline is she needs to express at least in motion or in English / Mandarin phases if she doesn't know the Cantonese term.

Same as your son, she repeats each exercise many times though she could say each words and sentences fluently in the first time.

Don't worry!  It is the process.  I found that they could learn through the process.  My daughter is now at ERP 3A.  Up till now, I am quite satisfied with the ERP course.   

原文章由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-17 21:53 發表

阿仔現在可以用簡單的英文句子對答，有時講中文見我地唔明，會用英文搭夠，佢語文能力都算唔錯的。
其實，7A好多生字都係 ...

5354

I checked the report showing on my center


K1 maths(end of the school yr)
3A 100 (bronze)
2A 200 (silver)
A200 (gold)

K2 maths(end of the school yr)
2A 100 (bronze)
A200 (silver)
B200 (gold)

K3 maths (end of the school yr)
A100 (bronze)
B200 (silver)
C200 (gold)

and i found that my girl will only get bronze on chinese and english this yr....i get wrong message last time

Little_Princess

5354,

Wing Wing is very bright.  After surfing your blog, I think we met each other before, probably in a Speech Contest.  I forgot which one but I talked to you in a minibus and you told me that you teach your daughter dancing.  I was shocked and really admire your effort. :

原文章由 5354 於 08-7-17 23:20 發表
I checked the report showing on my center


K1 maths(end of the school yr)
3A 100 (bronze)
2A 200 (silver)
A200 (gold)

K2 maths(end of the school yr)
2A 100 (bronze)
A200 (silver)
B200 (gold)

K3 mat ...

5354

K1 ERP (end of the school yr)
bronze: 3A100
silver: 2A200
gold: AII200

K2 ERP (end of the school yr)
bronze: 2A100
silver: AII 200
gold: BII 200



K1 Chinese (end of the school yr)
bronze: 3A50
silver: 2A150
gold: AII100

K2 Chinese (end of the school yr)
bronze: 2A50
silver: AII 100
gold: BII 100

wow....so hard to get silver in chinese and erp....

5354

原文章由 Little_Princess 於 08-7-17 23:25 發表
5354,

Wing Wing is very bright.  After surfing your blog, I think we met each other before, probably in a Speech Contest.  I forgot which one but I talked to you in a minibus and you told me that you ...

o god....I remember u..the competition @ wanchai ma....after win this competition we went to beijing to have another competition...luckily win some prizes....will u join this yr?

[ 本文章最後由 5354 於 08-7-17 23:31 編輯 ]

wacha

SumSumBB,

你真係要同centre講吓, 其實都幾抓晒頭，不過佢想makesure你個仔係明白, 但可能佢唔知你個仔mother tongue係英文, 因為我講咗比老師聽, 所以佢地都係用英文同我個女溝通,

原文章由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-17 19:32 發表


十月媽咪,
婷婷好叻，今日第一眼見到佢就feel到佢係頂乖的學生！
咦...我仲未收到上星期個評估個RESULT喎！？

今日老師話阿仔識讀英文，但就唔係好識解釋返做中文...我真係抓晒頭，可能我對公文英ERP認識不 ...

wacha

魔鬼期好怕, 我就1-2個月1日至2日, 唔知佢想點.
好次第二個人.

原文章由 十月媽咪 於 08-7-17 19:40 發表
SumSumBB,

唔係啩? 你望左佢一眼, 就知佢乖? 佢激到我噴血嗰陣, 你又唔知啫! (由三歲開始, 每半年佢就會有一個魔鬼期, 嗰個魔鬼期, 我真係想掟佢落街的, 激到我得番半條命, 而呢個魔鬼期, 每次大約維持1-2個月)

咦 ...

Little_Princess

hee... yeah!  I missed the chance to go to Beijing because I think my daughter is not that bright though she got the first prize in English Storytelling.

I think something wrong in the marking scheme. haha..  anyway, I didn't go to Beijing for the first time.  I struggled for the second time when I received the invitation for the competition in this summer.  Due to the Olympic, I am afraid that it would be a bit challenging to travel in July / Aug.  Finally, I decided not to go.  

My friend told me that it is a very good experience for the kids after she joining the first contest in Beijing.  I think you know my friend as well. (hee.. because she said that all the kids in the tour built very good relationship after the trip) ::" />

原文章由 5354 於 08-7-17 23:29 發表


o god....I remember u..the competition @ wanchai ma....after win this competition we went to beijing to have another competition...luckily win some prizes....will u join this yr?

[ 本文章最後由 Little_Princess 於 08-7-18 00:28 編輯 ]

5354

原文章由 Little_Princess 於 08-7-18 00:26 發表
hee... yeah!  I missed the chance to go to Beijing because I think my daughter is not that bright though she got the first prize in English Storytelling.

I think something wrong in the marking schem ...

same reason ...i didnt go to bj this summer. I only join art competition this time and they will send it to bj for wingwing.

hey...i m planing to go bj next time(near Lunar New Year),...may be we can go together la~~

its really a special experience for our bb...but not to parents...kee....i cry seriously after the last competition finished in bj.

SumSumBB

原文章由 wacha 於 08-7-18 00:08 發表
SumSumBB,

你真係要同centre講吓, 其實都幾抓晒頭，不過佢想makesure你個仔係明白, 但可能佢唔知你個仔mother tongue係英文, 因為我講咗比老師聽, 所以佢地都係用英文同我個女溝通,
...

我個仔的mother tongue並非英文，但他接觸英文的時候就真的只有英文，nursery(國際學校)和kinder的 NET 班主任寫report都稱讚他於英文理解和表達的能力。
教室老師認為阿仔始終是中國人，都有需要講得出其中文的字彙，我相信出發點是好的，但我是怕又中又英反會令他有所混淆，個人認為讀英文時最好用「英文思維」去理解，如果習慣了見到英文都把之翻譯作中文，將來去到讀一大篇文章、讀整本書..，都下下要翻譯作中文，那不是相當費時嗎？

[ 本文章最後由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-18 05:31 編輯 ]

SumSumBB

原文章由 Little_Princess 於 08-7-17 23:10 發表
SumSumBB,

My daughter got the same problem as your son.  Actually, we are in the same Kumon Centre.  haha...

I told Ms. Yeung that she can express the meaning in action or picture or English but may not in Cantonese.  To her, the Chinese meaning is another phase to learn.  For example, proud = 驕傲.  Definitely, she doesn't know the meaning of 驕傲.  If I need her to memorize proud = 驕傲, she is learning 2 phases.  Though she remember, she may not know the exact meaning of proud or 驕傲.  

Ms Yeung knows her problem but again, she told me that if she cannot express the meaning, she would not know whether she really knows the answer.  Her guideline is she needs to express at least in motion or in English / Mandarin phases if she doesn't know the Cantonese term.

Same as your son, she repeats each exercise many times though she could say each words and sentences fluently in the first time.

Don't worry!  It is the process.  I found that they could learn through the process.  My daughter is now at ERP 3A.  Up till now, I am quite satisfied with the ERP course.
..

Little_Princess,

多謝你的分享！

其實，驕傲比proud更難 ，日常生活裏會聽到proud的機會必定比驕傲多。另一方面，即使個小朋友答到proud=驕傲，也不能証明他是明白proud的意思呢！


無論如何，我會繼續努力，日後請多多指教！

[ 本文章最後由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-18 05:58 編輯 ]

SumSumBB

原文章由 5354 於 08-7-17 23:20 發表
I checked the report showing on my center


K1 maths(end of the school yr)
3A 100 (bronze)
2A 200 (silver)
A200 (gold)

K2 maths(end of the school yr)
2A 100 (bronze)
A200 (silver)
B200 (gold)

K3 mat ...

5354,
請問end of the school yr 即是幾時？7月尾還是8月尾？

十月媽咪

SumSumBB,

兩文三語嘛! 婷婷見到個琴, 你無論問佢廣東話, 英文, 定係普通話, 佢都講到嗰樣係乜野唻架...不過其實我都唔係好明的, ERP係就嗰D以英語為母語既小朋友學, 咁點解要中文解釋呢?

原文章由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-17 21:53 發表


今日我中途返左去幾次偷望佢地，你囡囡眞係好乖好定，至於你話的魔鬼期，我都好明白，我都經歷緊！

阿仔現在可以用簡單的英文句子對答，有時講中文見我地唔明，會用英文搭夠，佢語文能力都算唔錯的。
其實，7A好多生字都係 ...

十月媽咪

SumSumBB,

嗯....對於阿女呢個土生土長既廣東話人, 響讀公文英嗰陣, 我的確係要佢將佢識讀既英文, 全部用廣東話解釋一次畀我知的, 我個人覺得, 佢識讀識串唔代表佢識解, 好似佢見到Don't touch! 佢一望就知個字係點讀, 寫左兩次就已經識串, 但佢竟然問我: 媽咪, 咩叫做don't touch!呀, oh, 咁我知道佢唔識解, 於是我要話畀佢知, 即係: 不要觸摸! 而觸摸呢兩個字, 佢唔識係乜野唻的, 我就再簡單d, 即係: 唔好掂! ok, 佢understand句英文之餘, 亦知多左個中文生字, 兩者並肩而上, 兩樣都學多左!

even公文中都係, 佢見到d拼音, 佢可以讀得出d字, 但問題係, 佢知唔知自己讀完之後, 究竟嗰句野講乜既呢? 我為左要make sure佢知道嗰句野係講乜, 佢一係就做d動作出唻畀我睇, 一係就用廣東話講番一次...以便我清楚知道佢係理解嗰篇短文的!

好似piano咁, 如果真係英文人畀老師問到呢個字, 佢可以用英文解釋為: 這是一種可以彈奏的樂器, 再加埋一個彈琴的動作, 咁老師一定接受呢個答案! 相反, 如果唔能夠用英文去解釋番一個英文字, 最方便既就係用中文唻解.

anyway, 你真係同老師再傾清楚, 睇下佢可唔可以索性用英文同阿仔溝通溝通啦!

至於你話將來睇書, 若然下下都將內容逐句解番做中文, 會好費時, 但其實...當你對英文有一定程度既理解之後, i mean當你清楚知道每個英文生字既意思之後, 再加埋之後會學既grammer, 句子結構等等, 將所有野都學得清清楚楚之後, 到再大個d, maybe上到小學, 累積左咁多同英文有關既野, 佢地就唔會再需要逐句逐句咁釋做中文唻令自己理解架喇! 相信將來佢地做到閱讀理解嗰部份, 老師都唔會叫佢逐篇文章解一次吧, 咪真係有排放唔到學啊!

正因為而家係學單字, 老師想make sure佢識解, 都係想保障番小朋友, 唔想佢唔清唔楚咁升班, 老師本身亦唔想懷疑自己有無畀佢升錯嘛, ERP個課程始終比較深, 每個LEVEL學既生字亦比較多, 若然每個LEVEL都有生字係唔清楚既, 累積上去, 都幾頭痕啊!

原來噚日你偷望左佢地咁多次呀? 我好懶, 淨係臨尾至蒲頭! 哈哈!

原文章由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-18 05:17 發表


我個仔的mother tongue並非英文，但他接觸英文的時候就真的只有英文，nursery(國際學校)和kinder的 NET 班主任寫report都稱讚他於英文理解和表達的能力。
教室老師認為阿仔始終是中國人，都有需要講得出其中文的字彙，我相 ...

十月媽咪

[ 本文章最後由 十月媽咪 於 08-7-18 09:19 編輯 ]

Sherryko9

對唔住,搭吓嘴先!
SumSumBB所講,睇英文應該用番英文思維去諗,絕對無錯!或者你可以同導師講,試吓比小朋友用英文解釋番D生字,又或者同導師講你和小朋友日常生活上的習慣,例如教英文就用英文對答教.囡囡都是上ERP,媽咪有時會懷疑她不懂文章內容,所以有時亦會強迫她用中文解釋番給我知(因我都是用中文諗英文...嘻! ),得出結果就是---囡囡話知,但有時解唔清,但做問題又對和懂,便算!

原文章由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-17 19:32 發表


十月媽咪,
婷婷好叻，今日第一眼見到佢就feel到佢係頂乖的學生！
咦...我仲未收到上星期個評估個RESULT喎！？

今日老師話阿仔識讀英文，但就唔係好識解釋返做中文...我真係抓晒頭，可能我對公文英ERP認識不 ...

fannynsf

請問我小朋友剛上了2個月EFL, 依家想報埋中文, 對1個升K3小朋友會唔會急咗D呢? 每日做中文要幾多時間?

5354

原文章由 SumSumBB 於 08-7-18 06:30 發表


5354,
請問end of the school yr 即是幾時？7月尾還是8月尾？

sorry...i m not sure...