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beseem2003,

You may be right, my ultimate choice will be having my son studying in IS, but an excellent IS has a hefty price to pay. DBSPD's school fee is more down to earth though...

My son loves the school he is now studying and tell me so every time I ask him. It may be hard for him to readjust to a new school having to part with some of his buddies.

There will be competition from some other parents, but I notice that there are some parents in this forum and whose sons will be studying DBSPD are sharing my views. Therefore, I am cautiously optimistic that things will work out well. Perhaps, DBSPD might be able to combine the virtues of two types of school philosophy and form an unique style of its own, time is yet to tell. Afterall, I do not object to competition if it is coming out from within. One day, in order to go to a good University, as much as I loathe, good grades is a prerequisite and is still one of the governing factor.

At one time, the DBSPD principal gave a speech to the parents and said if he knows any parents employing more than 2 teaching assistant for the child, she will give them a whack, as quoted by my cousin whose son is studying P.5 now.

I also noticed a lot more local schools are employing IS' teaching methods and this is very encouraging.

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Philip:
"In graduating today, you have fulfilled your parents' dreams. Now go out and fulfill your own."
這句話比較值得剛達成父母夢想、完成大學教育, 應具備一定分析及思考力的年青人深思喎  
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Happy learning not the most effective  


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Schools have urged the government to put effectiveness before fun in learning as the education reforms are trying to shape a happy learning culture.
They were responding to reports from Japan that blamed the education reforms aimed at reducing students' stress for its declining performance in the Programme for International Student Assessment (Pisa) 2003, which compared the performance of 15-year-olds across 41 countries and regions.

Japanese students have dropped from first in mathematics in Pisa 2000 to sixth in 2003, and from eighth to 14 in reading.

Hong Kong students topped the world in maths in the 2003 study and came second in problem-solving and third in science. But they were also found to be the least happy about their schooling and reported the lowest sense of belonging and self-esteem.

Wong Kwok-keung, principal of the Ma On Shan Ling Liang Primary School, said fun should not be the first priority in learning. "There is a common misunderstanding that students learn best when they are having fun," he said.

"However, learning is meaningless if students can't build up their knowledge, which can only be gained through hard work.

"Instead of trying to take away all the pain involved in studying, we should educate children to set goals and gain satisfaction through achieving them."

He said the over-emphasis on enjoyment in learning, together with the egotistic consumer culture in Hong Kong society, could lead to disaster in education.

Christopher Yu Wing-fai, vice-chairman of Home-School Co-operation Committee, said less-educated parents had difficulties explaining the relationship between happiness and effectiveness in learning.

"Some of these parents use the `happy learning' and `learning not for scores' slogans as excuses for their children's low scores, missing class and skipping homework," said Mr Yu. "Schools want to help these parents to educate their children through seminars. However, they are hard to reach because most of them have to work long hours to support their families."

Nelson Lau Chi-keung, chairman of the Subsidised Primary Schools Association, wants more parent education from the government in the form of radio and television programmes to help them motivate their children to study.

Self-motivation has become all the more important under the education reforms, according to Mr Lau, as students were expected to become independent learners.

"In the past, students' knowledge mainly came from spoon-feeding at school, so every child will at least learn something even if they don't study at home," he said.

"Nowadays we are teaching students how to find food and how to eat, and it's their choice in how much they want to swallow. As such, parents are playing a more important role in motivating their children in learning.

"However, in such an affluent society as Hong Kong, children generally have low EQ, and parents may not have the courage to push them to rise to their expectations, especially under the government's `happy learning' slogan."

He said the public should not blame exams for unhappy school life as the stress stemmed not from tests but from the obsession with academic and professional qualifications in the job market.

An Education and Manpower Bureau spokesman said it did not believe Pisa scores would suffer as a result of the reforms.

Helping students to enjoy learning, enhance their effectiveness in communication, and develop their creativity and sense of commitment were the major aims of the reforms, he said.


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Matt'smum 寫道:
視母親為「慈禧太后」
1月 13日 星期四 01:50 更新
【明報專訊】李傳韻最討厭束縛,心底結源自有個「慈禧太后」。「我媽媽就是慈禧太后,而我從小被她鎖進紫禁城,接受高密度式地獄訓練」。

從3歲習琴至今已21年,他說現在像患上職業厭倦症般,失去練琴的動力。問他假如不拉琴,會做什麼﹖他說﹕「正如couple(夫妻)都有厭倦的時候吧,但長遠還在一起。我唯一能夠做好的便是拉琴,其他一無所知。」

愛情「四戰四敗」 自言失敗者

他還自言是個愛情失敗者,有「四戰四敗」的往績,初戀被騙,又因父母怕拍拖影響練琴而遭棒打鴦鴛﹕「我媽媽是慈禧,對我的一舉一動都瞭如指掌,他說的話便是聖旨。」雖然他聲言要「媽咪至上」,但骨子裏還是有怨言﹕「我曾經憎恨她,亦造成今天的任性,抑壓得太久時,我便會爆發出來——亂摔家具、打牆泄憤,一發不可收拾。」


你這個例子好極端,相信他媽媽實在做得太過份。
我自己聽到的,多是孩子長大後感激父母的悉心教導。
幾年前看香港電台的節目,講及一些年青囚犯,如父母忙著搵食疏於照顧,他們都會明白,但一些有閒的母親只顧打麻雀及緃容孩子,他們被囚後都會埋怨,說母親害了他們。
香港有個著名傳媒人馬XX亦有埋怨他父親,說當年父親為他找學校時太隨便,讓他的路難走好多。
父母能做幾多,是否真心為孩子,他們以後都一定會明白的,但如用錯方法,或利用孩子為自己要面子,最終就會好似這個母親,失去了孩子。
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視母親為「慈禧太后」
1月 13日 星期四 01:50 更新
【明報專訊】李傳韻最討厭束縛,心底結源自有個「慈禧太后」。「我媽媽就是慈禧太后,而我從小被她鎖進紫禁城,接受高密度式地獄訓練」。

從3歲習琴至今已21年,他說現在像患上職業厭倦症般,失去練琴的動力。問他假如不拉琴,會做什麼﹖他說﹕「正如couple(夫妻)都有厭倦的時候吧,但長遠還在一起。我唯一能夠做好的便是拉琴,其他一無所知。」

愛情「四戰四敗」 自言失敗者

他還自言是個愛情失敗者,有「四戰四敗」的往績,初戀被騙,又因父母怕拍拖影響練琴而遭棒打鴦鴛﹕「我媽媽是慈禧,對我的一舉一動都瞭如指掌,他說的話便是聖旨。」雖然他聲言要「媽咪至上」,但骨子裏還是有怨言﹕「我曾經憎恨她,亦造成今天的任性,抑壓得太久時,我便會爆發出來——亂摔家具、打牆泄憤,一發不可收拾。」


"In graduating today, you have fulfilled your parents' dreams. Now go out and fulfill your own." 廿歲了,成名了,還事事依賴媽媽,將自己之失敗,全推到媽媽身上。看来,此人還末成人,甚至末介奶。

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lochan 寫道:
I am thinking.. when a child grows up, must he find a 9-5 job or be his own boss. There are others things that he can do e.g. artists, atheletes, writers etc. There are numerous possibilities other than "enter into business world" and some of us will have difficulties in competing in this business world but that doesn't mean we are of lesser quality. It's just that every individual has its own talent which so happen this is not our strength.

Parents always, especially in HK, hypnotise their children such that when they grow up, they need to survive the cruel commercial world, be a warrior and fight their way through battlefield.

To earn a lot of money or get a high-paid job is not the ultimate goal though it is important to make both ends meet. Moreover, it is utmost important that the child will grow up to live a meaningful, fulfilling and happy life. He can be poor but rich at heart! It is our brought up that has encaged owr thoughts and I don't want my next generation to limit his visions.


lochan,
I have the same thinking as you.  My mom is traditional, she suppressed what her kids liked and made them to study as she wanted to be - professionals such as lawyers, accountants etc.  However, after we grew up, we all ultimately struggled very hard to change to do what we really want to be, but it took a very long way.

I won't blame my mom as I know that she just wanted her kids to be "good".  I just won't do the same to my kids, I would rather let them develop their own interests, and do what they want, as long as they are on the right track.  Seems that many parents nowadays respect their kids as individuals more, and the kids can really grow up and lead their own happy life. :  :
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Philipwhau,

I see that at least parents in this forum and most of my friends are not pushing their kids so hard to be what they want!

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Philip,

I love HKIS and so does my son. I've got two sons and for them to complete the education in IS is very costly. Maybe one day I will send them back to Canada ot States for continuing education. Or maybe, I can have my sons reapply IS later.

Well, there are more parents bearing the same belief in my office and majority of them I know have put their siblings to ESF, IS and IS-approach local schools. We all gone through the love-hate relation with local schools and would like to pave our children to a better alternative.

Philip, btw, where is your son/daughter studying right now?

Also, in reply to Wymom, demanding parents are not the sole rights of Chinese, it does happen to other countries even in USA though in a lesser extent. But it is still a big no-no!! :evil:
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"There is a common misunderstanding that students learn best when they are having fun," he said.

"However, learning is meaningless if students can't build up their knowledge, which can only be gained through hard work.


Rubbish!

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He said the over-emphasis on enjoyment in learning, together with the egotistic consumer culture in Hong Kong society, could lead to disaster in education. [/quote]

How?

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"In the past, students' knowledge mainly came from spoon-feeding at school, so every child will at least learn something even if they don't study at home," he said.
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RUBBISH again!

Are they really thinking in such logic. Do they have a little bit knowledge about child psychology. Who the hell will let their child to be taught by these rubbish.

They just worth a word : Dam it!


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