IB課程之反思

daisychan

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["If they take Eng A, can they take Chi B? The effort should be the same. Is it foolish to take Chi A if it is not recognized in HK but the student has to study so hard on Chi literature?"]




According to their IB curriculum:

The following subjects of IBDP are available for students to study in their first year in 2013-2014:


Group 1: Chinese Language A: Language and Literature (SL)
         English Language A: Language and Literature (SL)
Group 2: English B (HL)


Each student is required to:
(1) take “Chinese Language A: Language and Literature” in Group 1;
(2) choose either “English Language A: Language and Literature” from Group 1 or “English B” from Group 2;

So, Group 1 Chinese Language A: Lang & Lit is compulsory. But for local chinese students, Standard Level wouldn't be too difficult, I think.  Mainland students normally take Higher Level.

daisychan

caa 發表於 13-10-7 22:07
Wow both eng A and Chin A. If it were me who don't like chin literature and never think of pursuing a language related career, I would definitely leave for other IB schools such as Li Po Chun or CIS.

For Li Po Chun, I understand that they require all students from local schools to choose Chinese A (HL or SL), unless there are good reasons.

daisychan

caa 發表於 13-10-7 22:46
...I will definitely go for a school and program that can give the best support and increase my chance of getting into my desired university!

Depending on which universities and programs you desire, you should choose the right IBDP subjects and levels.

daisychan

To my understanding, there is no "Chinese B" under Group 2, but only "Mandarin B" which is much more easier than "Chinese A - Lang & Lit (SL)". Just like "English B" vs "English A".

Therefore, IB schools will require local students to take Chinese A (HL/SL) under Group 1, leading to BD.

Correct me if I am wrong, please.

hkparent

So LPC is another school that requires local students to take both Chi A and Eng A. Good.

poonseelai

daisychan 發表於 13-10-8 16:57
To my understanding, there is no "Chinese B" under Group 2, but only "Mandarin B" which is much mor ...

My daughters' school offers Chinese B (HL and SL) as second language under group 2, not Mandarin B.

Artie

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可能係個別學校內部係叫 chinese b，有時網友討論也會說是 chinese b。
但 ibo dp 的考試，是沒有 chinese b，只有 mandarin b 或 cantonese b。

hkparent

University of Oxford
http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/courses/courses_and_entrance_requirements/english_language.html
International Baccalaureate Standard Level (SL): score of 5 in English (as Language A or B)

Excellence in the subjects applied for is far more important than English language unless you take language subjects.

poonseelai

hkparent 發表於 13-10-9 00:43
University of Oxford
http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/courses/courses_and_entran ...

Well, this is the min requirement.  Just like DSE the min requirement is 3322 but the universities will use Best 5 in most cases.

daisychan

poonseelai 發表於 13-10-9 09:14
Well, this is the min requirement.  Just like DSE the min requirement is 3322 but the universities w ...

Agree. This is only the min. requirement. They only require IELTS of 7.0 and GCE O-Level with Grade B!

As I said before, depending on your target Us and programs, you need to choose the right subjects and levels.

daisychan

Also, bearing in mind you normally can't get a place in OxBridge without 42+. That means all the applicants will have at least 6 in each subject.

So, what will the OxBridge choose among students with 6 in English A and 7 in English B.

hkparent

For Oxbridge applications, English won't be a critical point. The most important thing is interview performance. Maybe oral English is even more important.

foolish.mom

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I know of a case in which the conditional offer from Cambridge is certain total points in IB, plus at least a 6 in English A. That became the most worried part of the conditional offer of the boy, as his English is relatively weak as compared with other subjects.  Eventually he was admitted.  Don't know if Cambridge set this condition because the interviewer noticed that English was the weakest part of the boy.

hkparent

Probably. If the boy had performed better in the interview, the conditional offer shouldn't be so high. If English is specifically mentioned in the conditional offer, his oral English may not be up to standard.

nintendo

foolish.mom 發表於 13-10-9 18:20
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I know of a case in which the conditional offer from Cambridge is certain tota ...

你呢個例子就更加證明，現實唔可能 english b 都會收囉，連 english a  都一定要 6 分喎。
一向都話唔好跟 minimum entrance requirement 做人。

問過有 d  大學 (唔係一線如 oxbridge 和 ivy league，但都係 "名校")，話佢地 minimum requirement 係 28 分就會 consider。真係得啖笑，我就唔信 28 分可以入到那間大學的 pure science  或 engineering (北美大學，law 和 med  不是 first year entry)，話晒都係 "名校"，就算係冷門科都唔會 "冇客仔" 都咁卦。

其實真係有部份大學某 d  科，的確講明一定要 english a，要求的分未必高，可能只係合格 (即 4 分) 就得，但佢地寧願要個 english a 4 分，都唔要 english b 7 分。

話說回頭，如果學生真係冇 english a 的水平，要佢讀又真係會好辛苦，讀 english b 都好正常。
公度 d 講，我地唔可能 expect  間間本地學校都有 dbs 和 spcc 的水平，可以全部 ib 學生讀 english a。
不過學生和家長都要明，如果真係讀 english b，將來入大學時選科就有的確有限制，呢個係事實。
明白自己的定位，選大學選科時唔好咁進取，就唔會冇大學讀。
舉個例，讀 english b ，應該入本地大學 "神科" 冇可能了。

daisychan

hkparent 發表於 13-10-9 12:16
For Oxbridge applications, English won't be a critical point. The most important thing is interview  ...

No doubt, interview performance is one of the major assessment criteria for university admissions.  My point is under a tie-break situation, when two applicants with a difference in IB scores of less than 2 and their other performances including interviews are very close, just like Oxbridge applications, all the potential successful applicants are 43+. English A or English B will definitely be very critical. Nintendo has also raised this point above.

daisychan

nintendo 發表於 13-10-10 15:11
你呢個例子就更加證明，現實唔可能 english b 都會收囉，連 english a  都一定要 6 分喎。
一向都話唔好跟 ...

評論中肯，真係唔可以自欺欺人。

ANChan59

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舉個例，讀 english b ，應該入本地大學 "神科" 冇可能了。

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我都想知有冇！


去到神科，幾多人爭，點解選過英文B，又不是冇得簡。收咗都要考慮能否應付。

hkparent

Can Chi B enter 神科 in CUHK?

ANChan59

hkparent 發表於 13-10-10 17:30
Can Chi B enter 神科 in CUHK?

好似可以！
三年前中大聽NJ收生，如果不是本土學制，可以申請豁免，根本可以不用中文，例如GCE，SAT，AP。