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judy

不知是否這個原因，他當年報考P.1時，大部份用廣東話面試的學校(包括St. Paul Co ed, St. Paul Primary School, HKUGA, etc.)都 rejected 他

我也見過這樣教育背景之小孩。其實，語文難不開思考能力，廣東話咁正，而普通話又咁易學。信我，現時香港的小朋友，長大了用普通話一定無問題。

WYmom

wunma,

Yes, me too, I have to take care of both.  So as you said, it may be easier to have them separated by 6 years.  Seems that you are already free!!! :  :

wetfoot

Philipwhau 寫道:
不會的。因為語文研究和科學一樣有日新月異的發展，作為父母的要像學者般有開放接受新事物的態度，這樣才會有進步的空間。對嗎？

我們決定大兒的教學語言是建基於當年自己有限的知識。現在我倆所掌握的新知識多了，作決定小兒的教學語言時當然會有所轉變的。

其實又有誰能自誇絕頂聰明，決定從沒差誤呢？唯有不斷更新才可以與時並進，所以，在此聽聽不同的主張，就是不同意，也可以作為對自己信念的考驗，由其是人家的經驗，常常可以引導大家少走遠路，也會了解到路有很多條，也沒有固定的critical path。

judy

其實我真是要多謝真道的丘校長，只有他的慧眼看中大兒是資優兒，很喜歡收他為自己高足。當年太太還大住個肚去見他，丘校長還承諾將來一定收埋肚裡BB為徒添！

聽說丘校長還有一特殊技能，就是能分得出誰有讀大學之potential。你有冇問埋佢。

lochan

Real example.
A large investment bank was hiring Graduate Trainee. After rigorous selection, only two candidates remained. One from local U and the other from USA, both did well in interviews and have remakable qualification. At the end, the candidate from USA got the offer since the Interviewer feels that the USA U-grad has a better global view and better English.

Phil,
That coincides with the article that you just brought up.

Again, this shows how fluency in both English and Putonghua is so important.

wetfoot

lochan 寫道:
Real example.
A large investment bank was hiring Graduate Trainee. After rigorous selection, only two candidates remained. One from local U and the other from USA, both did well in interviews and have remakable qualification. At the end, the candidate from USA got the offer since the Interviewer feels that the USA U-grad has a better global view and better English.

Phil,
That coincides with the article that you just brought up.

Again, this shows how fluency in both English and Putonghua is so important.

I suppose that depands very much on what area the appointee will be deployed. Good English may not be the key factor although it is important among the basic requirements. For management, experience and analytical power are also equally important. If they were to choose a trainee, the prime considerations could be possession of a sound and effective mind, EQ, and flexibility. An investment bank would prefer a good analyst rather than a good writer.

gigi2

田北辰﹕強調英語能力屬偏見 反駁商界指大學生英文水平下降

明報專訊】多個商會及商界領袖近年高調批評香港學生英語水平下降，令部分家長更鍾愛英文中學，抗拒實行母語教學的中文中學。協助政府檢討教學語言的工作小組主席田北辰，以商人身分公開反駁，指商界過分強調英語能力是一種偏見，實際上僱主聘請員工時，更

lochan

wetfoot 寫道:
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lochan 寫道:
Real example.
A large investment bank was hiring Graduate Trainee. After rigorous selection, only two candidates remained. One from local U and the other from USA, both did well in interviews and have remakable qualification. At the end, the candidate from USA got the offer since the Interviewer feels that the USA U-grad has a better global view and better English.

Phil,
That coincides with the article that you just brought up.

Again, this shows how fluency in both English and Putonghua is so important.

I suppose that depands very much on what area the appointee will be deployed. Good English may not be the key factor although it is important among the basic requirements. For management, experience and analytical power are also equally important. If they were to choose a trainee, the prime considerations could be possession of a sound and effective mind, EQ, and flexibility. An investment bank would prefer a good analyst rather than a good writer.
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Wetfoot,

My issue is when assessing the qaulity of two candidates and when everything is equal between the two, utlimately, the employer will definitely choose the one with better English.

You may not agree, my theory is that most of the candidates with better English ability tends to come from IS or studied abroad before. Therefore, they were taught in project based approach and creative thinking. As a result, their analytical power and problem solving skills will be better than local education. Combined the analytical skills with good problem solving technique and excellent English writing skills, these people put themselves in a very favourable situation of getting a job of firece competition.

Also, an investment bank would prefer a good writer and a good analyst at the same time!!

lochan

In my office, most of our Engineering colleagues has put their siblings to SIS, ESF, CIS, FIS, HKIS, AustIS and they are all Chinese who either stayed in other countries for a long period of time or studied abroad to actually KNOW the difference of the two education systems. This is based on actual experience, not by theory or guessing.

Of course, we got no education allowances from our firm.

gigi2

Your company is very generous to have education allow for your colleagues to support their siblings not their children.  Which firm is it?

lochan

gigi2,

You have misread my thread. There is NO allownace given and the company is cheap in every way!  :evil:  

kingkongdaddy

lochan 寫道:
Chinese who either stayed in other countries for a long period of time or studied abroad to actually KNOW the difference of the two education systems....

Strongly agree ! And you would like your kids to receive the western education instead of the local one with no doubt.

cow

引文:
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wunma 寫道:
廣東話的9個音應等同音符me, re, dol, so(低音), dol, la(低音), me, dol, la. 最尾的3個音為冇尾音的短音. 不過唔係個個字都讀到9個音.

如"因"的9個讀法便是:
"因"(me)，"忍"（re)，"印"(dol)，"人"（so），"引"（dol)，"孕"(la)，"一" (me)，第８個音冇既，第９個係"日"(la)．

舉多個例如:"冬"字的9個音便是:
"冬","董", "凍", 第3及4個音冇既, "棟", "篤", 第8個音都冇, 第9個音係"讀".

如有錯請指教.
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Wunma(宏媽):

請不要介意，廣東話音標與音樂的音階風馬牛不相及(關)，"平上(上樓梯的上音)去入"是有解釋的，此處不想談得太深入，但要澄清，"因"是陽平聲，陽聲的平、上、去、入就分別是"因、忍、印、一"，要近似你的do-re-me就只可說陽聲四聲是高音四聲，"人引刃日"自然就是陰四聲了。

再說"冬"字8音(很少有第三個平聲)，應該分別是陽四聲："冬/董/凍/篤"，陰四聲："D+同[無此聲]/D+統[無此聲]/動/獨"，也就是因為廣東話每字已定高低音，廣東話歌詞較難填，不理會本身的音，就會變成像一些基督教聖詩般 - "耶穌愛我萬不錯"聽起來像"惹數哀餓萬筆初"，字已定高低音，不等於可以(上聲)do-re-me代入，只需想想"入"字，怎可能是甚麼do-re-me音？"入"聲本身說明短音。

十年或以前，電台的播音員發音很準，但現在就連電視新聞報導也常讀錯，香港超過一半人不會講"ng"字音(如牙牛顏)，而變成了"ar"音，那正正是不注重母語的結果。

對於懂樂理的人來說，do-re-me只用於教唱歌的啟蒙，西洋音階A-G+#(b)與中國的五音十二律同，但人有不同音域，強行以do-re-me代入那有正音？要讀正音可參考"粵音韻彙?"。

聽了YK兄介紹港台的粵講越岩聽九聲既ABC後，發覺Wunma乜有些正確。

do re me fa so = 1 2 3 4 5

因 - 陰平 55
隱 - 陰上 35  
印 - 陰去 33
人 - 陽平 11
引 - 陽上 13
刃 - 陽去 22
急,一 - 陰入 5
鴿  - 中入 3
及,日 - 陽入 2

wetfoot,
你可能把陰陽倒轉了，"因"是陰平聲而不是陽平聲，其他的字乜有類似的情况。