MCS or DGJS- a parent's dilemma

Chima

I think the reason why most parents want their kids to enter DGJS is not because they want to show off but they really believe DGJS can provide good education and cultivate good learning spirit for their children.  The kind of "bar bai" mammies are presence in all renowned schools and actually everywhere, I don't think they worth much discussion.

coolobserver

Well, I did say it started as a joke and I might be over-generalising.   And once you over-generalise, you will be met with "exceptions".  But, in a way, discussions here are largely based on generalisations (sometimes based on incomplete info): some say school A is good because, from their experience, people from school A go to this school or students from school behave very well, etc etc.  That will (or may) be met by "exceptions".  That is all part of the game/discussion.  Yes I admit that businessmen's wives can be every bit as snobbish (or even more so) than doctors' wives and their behaviour worth making fun of.    I can start another thread about "socialite parents" (you know, those you read in entertainment pages of newspapers who show up in party dress even though they are heavily pregnant).  But for the purpose of this thread the focus is on "bar bai" parents.  

That said, I agree that bar bai moms are prevalent in a lot of schools: but I am trying to generalise and have a bit of fun.  Bankers, insurance salesmen and lawyers are all the subject of jokes (in the western community at least), and don;t you think it is about time we start some jokes about doctors' wives?

Don;t be so stuck up ma.  :)

coolobserver

My point about doctors' wives is "jokey".  
My long messages are supposed to be serious.

Yes, generalising is dangerous.  In an ideal world we should judge each person as an individual and not by reference to what school he or she goes to or what occupation his parents have.  Unfortunately in an imperfect world we have to do it all the time, and I am not ashamed to admit that I am doing it here.  That's why I do not feel upset when others say I am generalising (or over-generalising) because that is what I am doing (and, let;s face it, what we are ALL doing).  

In fact any statement "school X is good" is an over- generalisation.  But we still derive great pleasure (and devote much time) on these matters.  C'est La Vie.  

May I take this opportunity to wish you all a happy New Year.

Annie123 寫道:
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coolobserver 寫道:

don;t you think it is about time we start some jokes about doctors' wives?

Sorry, but I thought you were taking things seriously, especially when you reposted your long messages everywhere.

Generalising is dangerous. Haven't you once disagree that we should generalise by claiiming that CCKG kids have advantage when fighting for a place at DGJS.

I apologise if I sound like I am upset - yes, I am quite unset. While you are "measuring" others with one ruler, you are obviously not measuring yourself with the same one.

PS. I children are not from CCKG, SC or DGJS.
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anxiousparent

Have we forgotten what this thread is all about?
Spkrs are you OK?  Please show your hands (instead of just log on, which requires us to go to your personal info column to find out).  

Spkrs

Hello all,

Just got back yesterday from London, hope all are well.

Anyway, daughter got rejected, oh well back to the drawing board.........

Happy new year all!!

anxiousparent

As I said to suki:-  look at it this way, many people would pay to be in your position (MCS in hand).  

Animated discussions b4 new year.  Allow me to summarise and interrupt:


1.  coolobserver's discussion got slightly side-tracked by references to particular kindergartens.  It also got sidetracked by the reference to doctors' wives.  Not a lot of people can take jokes like that.  

2.  Chinese_B does have a point that businessman (or indeed other professions or people) can be equally snobbish.  The focus should not be on individual occupations, but on particular behaviour or mentality of parents.

3. coolobserver's basic point (the analysis and classifciation of different categories of parents) remains valid, IMHO.
  

4.  coolobserver need not feel so strongly about CCKG (if that is what he/she feels).  If he/she thinks CCKG has some historic or unofficial advantage over others, send your kids there (and it is not unheard of for kids to transfer to CCKG - let's face it, it is not difficult - in the final year just to get the advantage of being able to be regarded as a CCKG applicant - But that would be too calculating).

5. On the other hand, if there is any inherent sense of superiority by the parents of some kindergartens (because of % intake), then the earlier this is gotten rid of, the better (I hope Chinese_B does not think in this way - he/she has been quite ambiguous on this).  Kindergartens of course have their "official positions", but don't give me that please.  We are all adults are we not, and we all understand real life do we not?  Anyway % intake from a particular kindergarten does not in any way reflect on the inherent qualities of a particular student from other kindergartens.   If a student gets into DGJS (or, for that purpose, an Ivy League School, or Oxbridge) then it must be presumed that she is good enough to be in.   No one should be judged by their "background": otherwise the snobbery and counter-snobbery never ends.

sisuk

hi sprks

Glad you're are safe home.   Cheer up and hope you are OK with the result!

Happy new year to all too!

Chinese_B

My messages were posted here out of an obligation as a CCKG parent to address to some misunderstanding prevalent among some BK members (which I have quoted in reply). I had the least intention to show off how well CCKG has done over the years. We all know that whatever the % of intake is, some students are bound to fail. We also know that many of the best performers in DGJS are from kindergartens other than CCKG.

Thanks Anxiousparent for reminding me of holding snobbery at arm's length. This I surely would, and we surely should, for the good of our children.

Chinese_B

Taiman98

I've heard that someone's daughter is on the waiting list for the admission of DGJS P.1. I wonder whether it's true or not. Did DGJS send out the formal letter stated the applicant 's name on the waiting list? All my friends received either acceptance or failure letter.

123daddy

Of course, CCKG is an unofficial feeder school of DGJS.  Before, they had the same sponsoring body and the relationship was close.