港IB考生平均分超全球 英基加拿大國際漢基包攬7滿分狀元

ksenia

i'm confused
should my daughter pick Chi A HL and Eng A HL or just Eng A SL? She's from a local school and will be switching to an IS in September. Is HL and SL similar? So SL is easier to get a 7 right? but do universities favour HL?please help!

ANChan59

原帖由 Annie123 於 11-7-26 00:17 發表
Just used a Mac to browse the site. Could not find anything for Chinese/Mandarin.

I used IE and downlaoded some past papers in Chinese, can't download model answer and comment from examiner, may be needed to buy credits.

mattsmum

You mean she is going to take ibdp? Or just myp? Our discussiois on ibdp only. For choosing of subjects, ib teachers will advise, they are the professionals.

WYmom

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-7-25 22:57 發表


It will be outdated for our kids in 2013 afterward.

My son sent emails to HKU, CUHK and HKUST to ask their requirement of IB languages in 2013, they have no clue what's going on and only CUHK admis ...

Thanks a lot for your sharing.  So if our kids want to apply U in HK including CUHK, they must take English A and Chinese A in group 1, which may be more difficult than before??  And also not sure if they have choose one more languagefrom group 2.  The exam papers of group 1 maybe different from the past after the change.

My kid's school will discuss with parents only by coming Sept...my kid will sit for IBD in 2014.

mattsmum

Is Chinese needed for getting into hk universities? Why not opt for English A1 and another language such as French b or French ab initio.

ksenia

IBDP. It's a new school for her so it's kinda difficult for the teachers to know her ability.

mattsmum

Then you should check the ibo document about language to assess the difference in HL and SL and check the pass papers too. I think it is the training difference . Fie IS student, they are used to questions like  : commentary on the following article, or comment on the character of xxx in romeo and Julie.Such question is  like open question.
Also check out what subject/level she should take, she need3 SL and 3HL as the minimum.

[ 本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 11-7-26 09:25 編輯 ]

ANChan59

原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-7-26 08:26 發表
Is Chinese needed for getting into hk universities? Why not opt for English A1 and another language such as French b or French ab initio.

Some programs need Chinese and Cantonese is a must, like medicine, law ......

iamfine

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-7-25 23:13 發表

I am thinking English in Group 2, A SL in Literature and Language Study; Chinese in Group 1, B. He may score Chinese 7 and English 6. ...

Sounds like a good move.

On the other hand, it's a tough call for those students whose Chinese is not as good as their English. Making them take Chinese A is to risk dropping 1 or 2 points, which may turn out to be more than crucial.

I can now start to understand why some lower secondary students at my son's school are asking their kids to learn a third language (Spanish and Latin are most popular at the moment).  Probably their parents are thinking of not doing Chinese in IBDP exam and taking Spanish/Latin B instead.  The problem with this approach is, without Chinese, they have to give up HKU/CU law and medicine.

So many factors to consider.  Need to think and rethink.

ANChan59

As more parents shared their views and findings, more information and scenario, it's good for us to reconsider different scenario.

Happy discussion is fun.......

mattsmum

中文A high level pass paper 1（2006）
從一篇短文或詩選一加以評論：
   
    寫於一九二六年四月十二日的《夢》

    這人生內豈惟夢是虛空？（平）
    人生比起夢來有何不同？（平）
    你瞧富貴繁華入了荒塚；（仄）
    　　夢罷，
    作到了好夢呀味也深濃！（平）
    酸辛充滿了這人世之中，（平）
    美人的臉不常春花樣紅，（平）
    就是春花也怕飛霜結凍；（仄）
    　　夢罷，
    夢境裡的花呀沒有嚴冬！（平）
    水樣清的月光漏下蒼松，（平）
    山寺內舒徐的敲著夜鐘，（平）
    夢一般的泉聲在遠方動；（仄）
    　　夢罷，
    月光裡的夢呀趣味無窮！（平）
    酒樣釅的花香薰得人慵，（平）
    蜜蜂在花枝上盡著嚶嗡，（平）
    一陣陣的暖風向窗內送；（仄）
    　　夢罷，
    日光裡的夢呀其樂融融！（平）
    塋壙之內一點聲息不通，（平）
    青色的壙燈光照亮朦朧，（平）
    黃土的人馬在四邊環拱；（仄）
    　　夢罷，
    墳墓裡的夢呀無盡無終！

我讀理科，沒聽過朱湘這名字，但，好美的詩啊！

如何抨分我不懂，從網站抄一段，看看孩子會寫得出嗎：

   　 這首寫夢的詩，表面上看起來，它訴說了人世的辛酸，詠歎了美好的事物不會常在，人生象春夢一樣空虛，表現了詩人愁苦頹唐的心理狀態，但是實際上，它在衰頹的外衣裡深藏著美好的憧憬和執著的追求。

   　 這首詩共有五個小節，第一小節寫的是人生如夢，富貴入了荒塚，他渴望好夢深濃。這一節是總說，然後在其餘各節分別抒寫。第二小節寫的是春夢，春花飛霜結凍，他向往花沒嚴冬。第三小節寫的是夏夢，泉聲在遠方動。第四小節寫的是秋夢，他憧憬其樂融融。第五小節寫的是冬夢，黃土的人馬在墳墓的四邊環拱，他幻想無盡無終。全詩五小節寫了人的一生，那就是人生如夢。詩人對人世間的功名利祿看得十分淡然，他心神向往的是另一個和諧寧靜的世界。他渴望做一個興味深濃的好夢：花沒嚴冬，月光蒼松，山寺夜鐘，花香人慵，蜜蜂嚶嗡。盡管他幻想中的“無盡無終”的好夢，只有死後在墳墓裡才能夠尋找得到，但是，從這些浸透了憂傷情緒的詩行裡，我們仍然可以窺視到詩人純美的內心世界。詩人執著追求夢境的本身就是對醜惡黑暗現實的批判和否定。

    　朱湘在這首詩中為了適應曲折多變的內在情緒，在詩歌的外形上也采取了相應的詩式，在聽覺上和視覺上造成了一種獨特的美感，正如著名作家沈從文先生指出的那樣：“《草莽集》才能代表作者在新詩一方面的成就，於外形的完整與音調的柔和上，達到了一個為一般詩人所不及的高點。詩的最高力，若果是不能完全疏忽了那形式同音節，則朱湘在《草莽集》各詩上，所有的試驗，是已經得到了非常成功的，”［（９）］《夢》這首詩全章各節整齊對稱，詩句的韻腳平仄相諧，它就是這樣的代表作品之一。

    　這首詩共有五小節，每一小節都是五行；五行中又都是由四個十字的長句夾一個兩字的短句構成，便形成了既整齊又富於變化的：“１０、１０、１０、２、１０”的形式。


   　 這是詩人朱湘獨創的中國新詩的新形式。

   　 這首詩除了反複詠唱的“夢罷”這個兩字短行之外，其餘的詩句，句句入韻。在每一小節之中句尾韻腳的平仄，又都是“平平仄平”的形式。如第一小節中的“空、同、塚、濃”，第二小節中的“中、紅、凍、冬”，第三小節中的“松、鐘、動、窮”，第四小節中的“慵、嗡、送、融”，第五小節中的“通、朧、拱、終”，都是第三句收尾的字：“塚”、“凍”、“動”、“送”、“拱”為仄聲，其餘的全是平聲字。

    《夢》這首詩的詩章和詩行，不僅在視覺上具有整齊變化的形式美，而且在聽覺上也具有抑揚起伏的音樂美。正如詩人的摯友趙景深教授所說的那樣：“我看了《草莽集》的原稿。真是高興極了！我覺得這樣清麗柔婉的詩，在當時中國詩壇上是少有的。……當時我認為這樣優美的詩，我還不曾看見第二人作過，即善用疊句的劉大白亦有所不及”。［（１０）］

http://blog.udn.com/ll5833/5456303

[ 本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 11-7-26 10:28 編輯 ]

mattsmum

中文A1 standard level paper 1

加以評論：
芭蕉/你为什么沉默/仁立在我窗前/枝叶离披/神态矜持而淡漠从前你不是这样的/在李清照的中庭/在曹雪芹的院落/你舒卷有余情/绿蜡上晴光如泼近黄昏，风雨乍起/敲打着竹篱瓦舍/有约不来/谁与我相伴/一直到酒酣耳热呵，沉默的芭蕉/要谈心请拿我当朋友/要争论请拿我当对手/在这边乡风雨夜/打破费尔巴哈式的寂寞芭蕉啊我的朋友/你终于开口/款款地把幽思陈说/灯火也眨着眼睛/一边听，一边思索芭蕉，芭蕉/且让我暖了搁冷的酒/凭窗斟给你喝/夜雨不停话不断/孤独，不是生活

WYmom

Do you think a local school student can answer such Chinese IB papers very well??

ANChan59

原帖由 Annie123 於 11-7-26 11:05 發表


The main problem with Language B would be, how IBO classify whether a person CAN take Language B.
Like someone said, more than 3 years of studying a language would not be eligible to take Langauge B ...

How about cheating? Assume study less than certain years and get better score......

I know some IB teachers push their students to A1........ If getting better score in A2 or B, may be a downward spiral.

My son started the SAT class, one boy accidentally from CIS, he is taking Chinese B. Of course he studies more than 3-5 years in Chinese.

Any differenve between Mandarin/Chinese in IB subjects?

JarJarBin

Oh my goodness.  As a mom, I studied in LS from kindergarden to Form 5 in HK, but I cannot even read the Chinese HL paper.  For the Chinese SL paper, I just barely 90% understand.  It is impossible for a IS student to do this paper.  I cannot imagine that the paper is sooooo hard.  Then my son (study in IS from kinder to primary now) has no hope to study law in HK la