協恩VS德望，煩！

dclkwok

較肉柱 寫道:
叫得做討論區就梗係搭訕架啦！
唔想畀人加入討論咪自己寫個網站咯,
係度單單打打咩意思呀！

較肉柱, I support you!     

dclkwok

cherrylemon 寫道:
jwmto, thanks. it's very helpful. my girl is canadian and i'm planning to let her go canada, maybe f3 or later. is it too late? is it better for let her study in canada after primary 6? but i really don't like the life in canada and i must leave my husband. it's not a "health" family style, right? can you give me some more ideas by your experience? thanks again.

your daughter is canadian?? ...your english............

哈里波特

""I agree with anxiousparent's comment.
I am also an old girl fr one of those famous school. I wld choose a 實力 one rather than a famous one.""

So call 實力, 又要看小朋友是否跟得上, 跟得上, 當然好, 多多都比, 無錢都有獎學金, 唔緊要.  但若要佢年年包尾, 返學返到想死, 我就唔要.

其實每間學校都有佢的culture, as per my observation, for example, St. Paul Co-edu & DGS are good in acadamic result but DGS d 女較串.  (個人主觀睇法)  If both school accept my daughter, I choose St. Paul Co-edu.

I prefer traditional famous gov't or DSS school rather than new setup DSS school.

Mrssslui

I agree.
'I prefer traditional famous gov't or DSS school rather than new setup DSS school.'

CHUCHU

點解要諗咁多嘢姐 讀書之麻,睇下小朋友同自己想要d mug,同咩嘢係適合佢.

最緊要都係從小孩子做出發點去諗,係米

harris99

English std of HY primary is indeed much lower than GH.  However, it seems the HKCEE results of HY and GH is more or less the same so far.  Actually, HY secondary intakes a lot of top English primary students from other schools every year so as to polish her brand name.  Pls beware, they have 5 classes in secondary but only 3 classes in primary, around 85% can get the thru' train  to secondary school. I would say HY primary is only in between band 1-2.  On the contrary, GH provides a better environment for English language development starting from her primary sector.   Undoubtedly, the work load in GH is heavier, this is a trade-off.
English and Mandarin become more and more important to our Hongkonger.  As a middleman between mainland and western, a fluent English and mandarin speaker will have a higher comparative advantage.  Some people say HY primary advocates creative thinking, but it's gone together with the leaving of the former headmistress Ms Lam.  The new Headmistress of HY tries to catch up with and emphasis more in improving English now.
These two girls' schools compete all the time academically and in every sport aspect.  Any girl can get the entrance to either Gh or HY is indeed lucky star.   We, parents shouldn't be too worried to have made a wrong choice.  Both choices get the same mark.

123daddy

In year 03 & 06, GH got 10A's student.  Don't understand on what ground you have such conclusion.

judy

Some people say HY primary advocates creative thinking,but it's gone together with the leaving of the former headmistress Ms Lam.

咁緊要，連creative thinking都帶走埋？唔通佢係巫婆(一定唔係神仙，神仙係善良的)。

123daddy

今時今日係香港地

TWMa

123daddy 寫道:
In year 03 & 06, GH got 10A's student.  Don't understand on what ground you have such conclusion.

credit and distinction percentage (HKAL)---
HYS (2005, 未有2006年資料)
Use of English 76.2%
Chinese 54.8%
Pure Mathematics 53.8%
Psychology 70.4%
English Literature 100%
Economics 65.5%
Liberal Studies 53.8%
History 54.5%
Chemistry 60.9%

GH (2006)
AS UE 70%
AS C LANG & CULT 41.8%
AS ENG LIT 0%
AL ENG LIT 40.0%
AL ECON 20.0%
AL GEOG 35.14%
AL HIST 100%
AL BIO 25.9%
AL CHEM 46.3%
AL PHY 31.7%
AS COMPU APPL 57.1%
AL PURE MATH 57.1%


(HKCEE)---
HYS (2005)
"In 13 subjects, 50% of our students obtained grade C and above. The most outstanding results are in Visual Arts, with a credit percentage of 100% and a distinction percentage at 86.7, Chemistry (94.7% credit and distinction), Physics (86% credit and distinction), Biology (71.9 % credit and distinction), and Additional Mathematics (70.2% credit and distinction). 10 students attained six distinctions and above"

GH (2006)
Subjects               No. Sat   A-C   D-E   F   U   
CHIN LANG             213   104   104   5   0   
ENG LANG (SYL B) 215   107   108   0   0  
PTH                             10     10       0   0   0  
CHIN LIT                    14       8      5    1   0  
ENG LIT                      93     34    53   3    3  
CHIN HIST                  14       4      9   1    0
FRENCH                       2       2       0   0    0  
GEOG                        151     47    95   9    0
HIST                            79     26    49   4    0  
ECON                        194     85  106   3    0  
REL STUD                213     70  117  23   3  
BIO                             86      54    31   1    0  
HU. BIO                     50      10    36    3    1  
CHEM                        86      58    28    0    0  
PHY                           86      54    30    2    0
MATHS                    215    124    91    0    0  
ADD MATHS             30     28      2    0     0  
C & IT (M1)               10       9      1     0    0  
C & IT (M4)               36     14    22     0    0
VISUAL ARTS           11       4     6     0    1  
MUSIC                         1       0      1     0    0
HOME EC (FOOD)      6       2      4     0    0

讀協恩小學, 90% 可升直屬中學, 既讀得開心, 又注重全人、愛心教育, 再比較埋中學成績, 有咁既 conclusion, 有咩出奇?

mothershares

judy 寫道:
[quote]Some people say HY primary advocates creative thinking,but it's gone together with the leaving of the former headmistress Ms Lam.

咁緊要，連creative thinking都帶走埋？唔通佢係巫婆(一定唔係神仙，神仙係善良的)。[/quote]


對,大家唔好再"神化"這位校長(雖然佢係有料)啦，協恩巳有７０年歷史，每一屆校長都好出色．加上佢既全人教育理念，才有今天的成績．個人覺得，只是這位校長特別"令人注意"而巳．   

津校不似私校，不可以隨己意screen學生黎讀，我就好欣賞這種在"有此限制下"仍能做出優質教育的學校．

但要補充一下，GH亦是很好既學校．入到任何一間都心足矣．   

123daddy

HKCEE result is one of the good indicators.  In recent 5 years, GH got two 10'sA students in 03's and 06's.  The results are impressive.  I couldn't get the HKCEE result of HY so that it is difficult to compare.  But I believe both schools would not be much varied.

123daddy

My sister paid a lot of effort to her eldest daugther to let her get into GH, because of money issue, she gave up GH for her second daugther and luckily gained entry to HY through central allocation.

GH's girl performed much better than HY's girl (our own case) academically.  The eldest girl even obtained the second best score in the Tofel exam. of year 199X. For HY's girl, ah...it's still far behind.

Nobody knows whether you made a good choice or wrong choice.  If you let you girl to GH, she would be the 3rd 10As owner in HKCEE, who knows???

wanyiumama

I'm not intending to offend anyone but maybe we have to be fair.

Even if studying in the same school, siblings may have different performance.  Assuming same guidance from the parents, the results will still vary because they are different individuals with different talent, characters, etc.

I think both HY and GHS are dream schools for many parents but the key point is whether the child can fit in the school (both the school life and academic development).   

szema

wanyiumama,

I totally agreed with you. RIGHT MATCHING is the most important issue. The open exam result is just the indicator of academic level but NOT the only reason for us to choose school for our children. I don't know why people always compare HY and GHS in academic and non-academic standard (sometimes with bias). I even notice from other web-Blog about this topic, the wordings are quite harsh, sometimes are humiliating others.  :cry:

I think HY and GHS both are very outstanding schools. No matter to compare or compete with others, just compete with your own self ; don't just stress on other's weakness but learn the best things of others.  

jojogh

I know some parents from GH and they told me that...

1) Lots homework after school, normally your children need 1-2 hours to finish them.
2) Teacher only teach once or twice in the class and assume parents teach your children at home untill they all understand
3) Don't blame school because the school won't make mistake
4) more...

wanyiumama

jojogh 寫道:
...
1) Lots homework after school, normally your children need 1-2 hours to finish them.
2) Teacher only teach once or twice in the class and assume parents teach your children at home untill they all understand
3) Don't blame school because the school won't make mistake
...

Seems they don't like the school.  Did they quit?

For (1), I think it's not the quantity that counts.  When I was in the primary, I also got 6-7 pieces of homework everyday.  If you do everything slowly, carelessly or even don't understand what you are doing, then you may need a lot of time to finish the work even if there is just a few to do.   

jojogh

wanyiumama 寫道:

Seems they don't like the school.  Did they quit?

Yup, one of them was quit this year and transfer to other famous primary school. She starts her new school life in her P2.

The rest of them, I have no idea, maybe they tolerant and don't want too much change.

dcyc_88

德望的功課真的很多,每天最少都有十份八份.
每個半月就考試或測驗.
每星期的默書又多又深,如果你是全職媽咪,又會天天倍你的女兒温書和做功課,你或者可以考慮下.
我的女兒上年讀咗九個月,同佢轉咗校.
我女兒的在德望的功成績都唔差,平均分有八十幾分.
但我和因她每天都為那些功課和溫書而大傷感情,
還有,當她讀德望時,永永遠遠都有一對黑眼袋(很多德望的學生都有,不信你可去看看.
最後,我想告訴你,如果你讀咗德望想轉協恩都唔係易,我還有和一些德望的家長聯洛,其中有一位是我的生死之交(因她女兒和我女兒同班,每天都要通電話對功課,又常常一起温書)
她今年想同女兒轉協恩,她女兒成績唔差,又係班長,但interview 的機會都無.
所以如果你抽到協恩,應讀協恩吧!
希望幫到你~

nautica

下星期一就知道結果，派到協恩就煩，不知點樣選擇。HY是派的，唔駛錢! 若果讀德望12年要比成5x萬！我只知德望英文叻過HY好多，其他學科就差不多。這5x萬值唔值得比？支持者請給點意見，不支持者亦請給點意見!