真道書院(小學部)

KenBaBa

Dear Andrew,

誠如 Yuki 所言，除郤就讀官小，以直資或私立而言，每年學費$20,000(小三)簡直令人喜出望外，兼且再沒有其他必須支出。今年的暑假珠海容閎七天活動也只收千多元，足證此校並非學店。老實說，現今要栽培孩子，駛錢已不是一個考慮點(當然我們得勒緊褲頭)，家長最要緊的是金錢要駛得合理及有價值或有(成績)回報而已。一個孩子通常都會 / 要學習一種或多種樂器、學習游泳 / 操水班、學習繪畫 / 書法、學習珠心算 / 公文數 / 其他、補習一科 / 多科、學習興趣班…等等，加上文具、體育用品、習作、午膳、校車等支出，再算上平日的衣食住行…唉，真是一生兒女債、半世老婆奴呀。所以特區領導人之提倡，真是完全脫離群眾。

Dear Yuki & DaisyChan,

可否講多一些有關默書、評估的制度、範疇、評分等方面的資料。平時有冇問書、突擊默書、類似測驗等等的『評估』

cow

KenBaBa,

評估報告分為"偕段性評估"和"持續評估" 兩類分數, 每科評級分1234,1為最好。

(FS1-FS3)"偕段性評估"科目有中、英、數、科學、社會, 在指定日期舉行, 即上期星的評估。

所有科目都有"持續評估", 分別有「達標水平」, 及「課堂參與」分數, 評分是基於各方面表現, 包括突擊評估(測驗)。

yeenmama

KenBaBa,

[quote]可否講多一些有關默書、評估的制度、範疇、評分等方面的資料。平時有冇問書、突擊默書、類似測驗等等的『評估』

littlepig

我小孩都是二年級,但依我所知,她那班有很多有80分以上. 我小孩說試卷不太難(我聽其他同班同學也是這樣說).

sillycara 寫道:
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cow 寫道:
真道小學每科成績只有1234，無話合格定唔合格。你朋友是否指他的小朋友英文拿3或4級呢?

佢班主任係英文科老師,所以改完卷就已經將分數話

KenBaBa

Dear Cow and YeenMaMa,

謝謝您倆的資料提供。小兒評估完後，問他自己會怎樣『評估』自己的成績，他就只說『OK』…呢隻仔係要花我們很多心力鞭策才溫習『應酬』一下，心諗你唔好俾人KO呀

TWMa

想知道 "溫故知新"、"Spelling Wizard"、"評估"... 和默書、測考在實施上的區別

judy

Remember in other thread that a Logos parent mentioned that the rule of promotion in Logos is "average 50 marks for promotion to F.2, average 55 marks for promotion to F.3 and average 60 marks for promotion to F.4 ..." I commented that this rule is nonsense and silly. As I given in that thread that there is no meaning to set such rule as there is no reference standards and the marks obtained by the kids will be greatly depended on how hard the exam questions set. The teachers or school can ajust the hardness or difficulty of the exam questions at any time they wish. Do you think that such rule still has any meaning?

很多合乎邏輯之句子，是空話，是廢話。例如：阿媽是女人。這句質問"The teachers or school can ajust the hardness or difficulty of the exam questions at any time they wish. Do you think that such rule still has any meaning?"擺係邊間学校都得，幾乎每間學校都是50分合格，100滿分，但咁慨怀疑、質問有何意義呢？

judy

again given by Logos parents, that there are a rather high percentage of students forced to repeat and the last year of its secondary section is used for continuous practising pass exam papers. What are the different between Logos to those traditional schools?

咁到底有幾high先得(我年幾前寫過出來，依家唔記得)？你完全唔寫有幾high而做出結論，要人地點信你先得？

如果(我話如果)有幾個家長話high，你就信以為high，且以此据，做出自以為"合乎暹緝之"結論，咁，不如你諗吓，一個亳無邏輯之人，能否作出合乎邏輯之分析呢？

judy

Now I would like to address on some other issues about Logos.

Regarding the point of school resources, what I meant is that we should consider how much recurrent resources that a school can obtain to support its daily operation. A good managed school would try its best to balance its recurrent expense from its recurrent income, i.e. the school fees plus the government subvention to support its daily operation. Even though the principal can obtain extra funding from the Church but the money is not for its recurrent expenditure but only for capital investment, e.g. new school buildings, some new equipment or facilitiies purchased,.. etc.

Because of limited recurrent resources, i.e. low school fee and limited amount of direct subsidize from EMB, the school could hardly implement its education believe effectively. Without sufficient recurrent resources, the school will find it hard to employ or retain high quality teachers, the number of extra teachers, not only native English speakers but also other professional teachers in art, music, sports, technology, computer... etc. would be limited due to limited recurrent resources. Without sufficient resources, the number of teaching assistants or admin assistants would also be limited such that the burden of the teachers in handling non-necessary admin or non-academic work cannot be alleviated.

Besides, please note that all those "good points" in teaching and approached as compared with other traditional schools mentioned by those Logos parents are just very basic in an international school and not worthy to be particularly mentioned. Many other new schools are trying to adopt the approaches, e.g. activity-based teaching, similar to those of international schools.

However, my personal experience told me that without sufficient experience and resources, you can only copy the format but not the essent and can hardly achieve the expected results. Believe it or not!

你又知人地資源不足？我凈係知道，一個月入十萬之垃圾教仔未必會好過月入ニ萬之垃圾。

daisychan

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leehoma001 寫道:

Remember in other thread that a Logos parent mentioned that the rule of promotion in Logos is "average 50 marks for promotion to F.2, average 55 marks  for promotion to F.3 and average 60 marks for promotion to F.4 ..." ........... there is no meaning to set such rule as there is no reference standards and the marks obtained by the kids will be greatly depended on how hard the exam questions set. The teachers or school can ajust the hardness or difficulty of the exam questions at any time they wish. Do you think that such rule still has any meaning?

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以上的passing marks setting 是我提供的，是我舊年在真道的中一簡介會從丘校長口中得知。
再補充多些資料：
丘校長表示他們是希望學生在 HKCEE 能夠各科都起碼

judy

[quote]再補充多些資料：
丘校長表示他們是希望學生在 HKCEE 能夠各科都起碼

deniset

Dear KenBaBa, yuki, yeenmama, littlepig, daisy chan,
cow and sillycara,
I have been out of town until yesterday and haven't been able to keep up with the news under this link and another thread posted by cow. Wow, what a happy surprise to find out we actually have a group of committed parents here to share views! Besides, I noticed interesting postings from non Logos parents which I still have to find time to read.
My daughter is a student of FS2. She too, has been enjoying her school life at Logos ever since she started in FS1.
KenBaBa, from your post, I learnt that your son has joined Logos for only 3 months. Is there anything else you would like to know more about in terms of curriculum, extra-curricular activities, etc. ?
Regards,
deniset

deniset

Dear littlepig,
My daughter said the assessment papers were distributed to them in class yesterday.
Her English teacher gave the papers back to them the following day after the assessment. She knew her score a few days prior to the rest of the subjects.
regards,
deniset

littlepig 寫道:
我小孩都是二年級,但依我所知,她那班有很多有80分以上. 我小孩說試卷不太難(我聽其他同班同學也是這樣說).

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sillycara 寫道:
[quote]
cow 寫道:
真道小學每科成績只有1234，無話合格定唔合格。你朋友是否指他的小朋友英文拿3或4級呢?

佢班主任係英文科老師,所以改完卷就已經將分數話

TWMa

[quote]
丘校長表示他們是希望學生在 HKCEE 能夠各科都起碼