初中生媽媽聊天室~分享會

KWT

天倫之樂 寫道:
唉,有時同佢傾計時,初初的氣氛幾好,傾多幾句場面就漸漸開始失控,(雖然好多時佢都算乖la),想多問佢返學.和同學相處的情況,佢開始有的不耐煩,好似冇乜耐性,成日得la得la掛係口邊

我個仔都係咁,不喜歡我問長問短,嫌我長氣,開始反叛.只好多給他空間自由,遙遠觀望.除非大錯,我叫自己儘量不插手他的事宜.有沒有想過鼓勵他們參加學校的校會或者童軍之類的活動?我想同輩或有好的影響力.

WYmom

Oh, my daughter starts to behave like what you all are saying at P.5 now, doesn't like me asking her questions after school, and like reading websites, writing emails etc.  Though this is not bad thing, I feel that the kid is trying to act as adult and doesn't want any control from parents already.  As parent, I also feel quite frustrated with her. :-|

lautorchi

我囡囡今年剛上中一, 見佢都幾開心, 成日跟我說學校的開心事, 佢近來忙於陸運會啦啦隊排舞, 放學成日係學校多過屋企. 暫時功課量未算多, 最近個多星期測驗, 自己都會自動自覺, 我很開心.

天倫之樂

KWT 寫道:
我個仔都係咁,不喜歡我問長問短,嫌我長氣,開始反叛.只好多給他空間自由,遙遠觀望.除非大錯,我叫自己儘量不插手他的事宜.有沒有想過鼓勵他們參加學校的校會或者童軍之類的活動?我想同輩或有好的影響力.

佢自己都参加學 校的女童軍,我都鼓勵佢多的参於學校的活動,我話志在参於,或者你都講得啱給他空間自由,遙遠觀望
除非大錯,儘量不插手他的事.依家在個女心中好像只有佢的同學先理解佢,阿媽永遠都唔理 解似

mable1124

Hi 各位家長好!! 看到你們的憂慮和擔心.... 真是每個家長都一樣, 包括我在內....

開學一個月了, 小女適應得很快...  但很少功課做 - 每在只見有數學功課, 其它的都很少。佢返學很開心, 放學也會與我分享學校趣事。佢講

天倫之樂

其實我都係好担心佢放學之后的問題,個女在銅鑼灣返學.3:15分放學,有時老師 遲放,差唔多到巴士站都3:30等車搭返來4:15分左右,佢依家學校比帶手機,一到巴士站就會打電話比我佢係巴士站

mccmom

m9394pp 寫道:
我個女今年都係升中一(中中), 初時我都有擔心,
後黎佢入左精英班我同佢都好開心, 佢讀聖安當,
雖然話係中中, 但好多野佢地都用英文, 每班有
兩個班住任, 佢其中一個係外籍教師, 全部都係用
英文同佢地講野, 佢地有d科目除左用中文, 另外
都要用英文, 我覺得幾好, 佢樣樣野都好慣, 最唔
好就係成日掛住icq同msn, 一放學就開左部電腦
先, 做o下功課又走去玩o下, 都算好沈迷, 同佢傾
左幾次都無乜用, 以前叫一兩次就stop, 宜家要叫
好多次, 上星期日終於忍唔住鬧左佢一輪, 我叫佢
要控制自己, 如果佢做唔到, 就由我控制佢, 到時
唔可以同我講無自由, 因為我已經俾左好多次機會,
咁尼兩日就好d, 希望可以keep到, 大家得閒交流o下

Hello m9394pp,

你個case好似我,好有親切感呀!我女又係升中一(中中-馬鞍山區)入左精英班(另外英文科全級頭30名又分開上堂,我女都係其中之一,所以好開心);而且又係每班都有兩個班住任架 ;我地學校每朝assembly都用英文講,so far我都幾滿意,因為係中中,個女讀得好開心 .

講開icq同msn,我女開學無幾耐就開始玩(小學果陣未識玩架!)不過好彩佢一向都問過我先開電腦,所以都會做完功課先玩,不過我都講明平時過左十點就唔准玩, 都控制得幾好,而且唔知係咪精英班d學生乖d(或者家長管教得好d),通常玩唔到半個鐘都say goodbye;我都希望你個女可以keep住依家咁乖啦

mccmom

天倫之樂

m9394pp 寫道:
天倫之樂,

我個女今年都係升中一(中中), 初時我都有擔心,
後黎佢入左精英班我同佢都好開心, 佢讀聖安當,
雖然話係中中, 但好多野佢地都用英文, 每班有
兩個班住任, 佢其中一個係外籍教師, 全部都係用
英文同佢地講野, 佢地有d科目除左用中文, 另外
都要用英文, 我覺得幾好, 佢樣樣野都好慣, 最唔
好就係成日掛住icq同msn, 一放學就開左部電腦
先, 做o下功課又走去玩o下, 都算好沈迷, 同佢傾
左幾次都無乜用, 以前叫一兩次就stop, 宜家要叫
好多次, 上星期日終於忍唔住鬧左佢一輪, 我叫佢
要控制自己, 如果佢做唔到, 就由我控制佢, 到時
唔可以同我講無自由, 因為我已經俾左好多次機會,
咁尼兩日就好d, 希望可以keep到, 大家得閒交流o下

同我個女差唔多,佢都係英文編去精進班,係外籍老師教,個女在何東讀,不過佢學校除了英文其他都用中文.我一星期只比佢星期六半個鍾上msn,如果超時就係下星期時間扣返,平時放學返來(4:20)要練琴1個 鐘,隔日要補習ｌ個鐘,功課只能在晚上做,除了星期六平時沒電視睇(从小一到依家),不過個女太過鍾意睇書(無書不歡),時常去廁所都帶書,我就比個限制:如果這星期功課,默書,測驗都掌握到就比一本書佢,佢自己都應承. :

樂樂

Vernique2005 寫道:
Dear 樂樂 :

I hope you can understand me here.  My Chinese program crashed again... Sorry...

Phonics is indeed a K-2 cirriculum in North America.  After seeing many many children in HK, I now seriously believe that its effect is over emphasized in HK......

In the Linguistics point of view, phonics can only account for about 80% of English words.  It's very accurate from K-2, but begins to lose its power starting from primary 3-4.

I met a student today whose parents claimed that she has a "perfect accent and pronunciation."  However, it's really NOT THE CASE.  These are a list of words that she misread.

1) perform, she pronounced it as "ER-form" (the stress was mislocated)
2) instead, she pronounced it as "in-STEED" (as in "ea" in TEA)
3) accused, she read it as "ACT-kus"... (just weird)...
(After 90 mins, the list became very long, and I began to lose count of it)...

In short, if you try to use phonics to "sight-read" a word, it's not reliable.  I'd rather turn to the IPA for a higher rate of accuracy.  However, if you have someone to read you to word correctly, and you're just using phonics to guide you through, it should be fine.

If you just rely on phonics for spelling, the result would be horrible. Past errors of my students include:

"special"---"specshoe"(yes, he's a Canadian!)
"telephone"--"telefone"
"third"--"therd"

If I have a son myself, I guess I'll still teach him phonics. Yet I certainly wouldn't assume that it will make my son become a native English speaker.  In my view, phonics to children in HK is just like Putonghua PINYIN to ABC's...hhaha! I know PINYIN by heart, so I can pronounce every single Chinese word in PuTongHua.  However, it doens't mean that I know the meaning of the word or that I am a NATIVE speaker of Putonghua, right?  

If you want your son to be able to spell correctly, the best way is to have him use the words for about 6 times.  According to some research papers that I've read, a person will naturally remember a word if he/she has used it for about 6 times.  Instead of just asking your child to spell the word, you may ask him to say it orally in a sentence or to use it and write a few sentences on his own.  If his English skill is limited, then you have to create the sentences for him. After a while, he'll remember it clearly.

Dear Vermique2005

多謝你詳細的解答.
你有空多d 上來呀,你的留言令我們獲益良多.

m9394pp

mccmom & 天倫之樂,

我個女暫時都未去補習, 因為我還可以應付,
而且我呢個星期開始放緊產假, 多左時間陪佢,
我個女又係好鍾意書, 完全唔睇電視, 所以有空
就睇書or上綱, 好彩我老公堅持兩部電腦都放
响個廳度, 所以佢上綱睇乜講乜我都會知, 我從
來都無管佢, 樣樣野我都要佢自己控制, 但習慣
好多野都要問左我先, 放學都會打俾我, 我都同
佢學校申請左帶手機(因為佢學校唔俾, 要寫信
申請), 但係前日佢搭車時跌左部手機, 佢成日
都唔見野, 好大頭蝦, 又要去買過部。

mccmom

Hello, m9394pp & 天倫之樂

好羨慕你地兩位個女都是愛書之人,我女最怕中文(一向中文都係弱d),可能就係唔鍾意睇書嘅後果!不過依家間中學指定左要做讀書報告,其中有四本重係d我聽到都怕嘅:天地一沙鷗,汪洋中的一條船,老人與海和稻草人,哈!我女竟然又已經睇完汪洋中的一條船,所以我對呢間學校都好滿意^_^,重有,我地下學期會用多d英文教Histroy,Science,Geography....等佢地唔駛F.4先轉咁辛苦

我部電腦都係放响個廳度,所以我女睇乜我都一齊睇!我地間學校唔比帶手機(申請都唔比),雖然有d唔方便,但我果女放學就會即刻返屋企,唔敢周圍去!

m9394pp,你開始放產假,恭喜哂!第幾名,預產期幾時呀?遲d咪好忙囉!

天倫之樂,聽朋友講何東d女仔又乖又斯文咕喎,真係好喇;不過你個女返學都幾遠,慣唔慣呀?我女依家6:40am起身,好唔慣呀,因為以前佢讀下午校架!重早過我返工!

mccmom

Yokongi

天倫之樂,
你個女都好聽你話喎，又喜歡睇書，我個女由細到大都唔喜歡睇書的，每次都是我叫她才肯睇，你個女就話"無書不歡"，我個女就是"無上網不歡"呀，日日放學就一邊上網一邊做功課，她自已間房有部電腦，所以她上網都唔會問過我的，不過她又唔會關埋房門上網的，有時我走埋去看她和什麼朋友上網，她都會比我看的，所以我都好放心，我個女現在讀中二啦，不過唔係好多功課做，她現在學緊小提琴，但一個星期只肯練兩次左右，而且每次練琴都唔會超過30分鐘，你話死唔死，我想請教你用什麼方法教你個女呢？

m9394pp

mccmom,

你又係在職mama, 我呢胎第三個喇, ,預產期係16/10,
原本想追個仔, 點知呢個又係女, 無辦法la, 最緊要bb
健康及好似兩個家姐咁乖, 細女都讀緊小六, 又要揀中
學喇, 但細女可能唔揀大女o個間, 因為佢唔鍾意女校,
依家都未決定, 遲d又要煩; 我大女d中文都係差d, 佢
睇書多數都係睇英文故事or漫畫, 中文都有不過少d。
你要返工咁邊個幫你湊女呀?

天倫之樂

Hi mccmom

個女鐘意書可能同我有關,我自己都係成日買書睇,屋企兩大書柜書,依家個女一放假就要同我去書局.佢睇得書多篇作文都好好,小學作文經常貼堂,中學入學前每個學生要寫一篇讀后感,佢都得到優異獎.何東以前係好好,依家就唔知,中四就商,理科先用英文,所以我都自己買埋數學書的英文版,依家一路跟,F4就唔使咁辛苦.你個女學校咁好,真係好羨慕
我個女小學係返上午校架,每朝6:15分起床,佢都好習慣,唔慣的係學校訂的飯實在好難吃,下個月可能會自己帶便當.

天倫之樂

Yokongi

其實有時佢都几聽話,有時都會駁嘴架,佢就來考5級鋼琴試.在買琴之前,就同佢約左,每日要練一個鐘琴,先會比佢學琴,甘佢鐘意鋼琴,只好遵守約定.其他方面我有時會用獎賞方面,佢又鐘意書,和鐘意食嘢,如果佢達到要求我就會買本書或帶佢出去食佢鐘意的嘢,或者這個星期加多半個鐘上網獎吓佢.好多時佢自己會提出:媽咪呀如果這次測驗達到A以上你可唔可以買本書比我"

Yokongi

天倫之樂,
你個女的成績都好叻喎！她現在幾多歲呀？讀緊中幾呀？我個女就快13歲啦，不過她對自已要求幾高的，好似上年她考 theory grade 5 只考到 75分，她都唔高興，還哭了幾次，我還要安慰佢合格都唔錯啦，好彩她不是在香港讀書，如果唔係相信她一定承受唔到香港的教育方法吧！

fong媽

由 Yokongi 於 2005-10-06 17:59:07

天倫之樂,
你個女都好聽你話喎，又喜歡睇書，我個女由細到大都唔喜歡睇書的，每次都是我叫她才肯睇，你個女就話"無書不歡"，我個女就是"無上網不歡"呀，日日放學就一邊上網一邊做功課，她自已間房有部電腦，所以她上網都唔會問過我的，不過她又唔會關埋房門上網的，有時我走埋去看她和什麼朋友上網，她都會比我看的，所以我都好放心，我個女現在讀中二啦，不過唔係好多功課做，她現在學緊小提琴，但一個星期只肯練兩次左右，而且每次練琴都唔會超過30分鐘，你話死唔死，我想請教你用什麼方法教你個女呢？

"無上網不歡" 簡直深深體會 :cry:

天倫之樂個女女都令我羨幕啊

Yokongi

fong媽,

你個女又係有時間就會上網咩，你話要她關機時，她會唔會聽你講先，好彩我個女還肯聽我講吧！平時我個女只係上網兩個鐘左右，星期六、日如果唔出街的話，都會由朝上到晚的，其實我都係好喜歡上網的，總之她有她上網，我又有我上網，有時叫她食野，我都會在 msn網上叫她的，你話我們兩母女係唔係上網癡呢

mable1124

Yokongi 寫道:
總之她有她上網，我又有我上網，有時叫她食野，我都會在 msn網上叫她的，你話我們兩母女係唔係上網癡呢

都係一個好的溝通方法。       

我都好怕個女顧住上網,

天倫之樂

Yokongi 寫道:
天倫之樂,
你個女的成績都好叻喎！她現在幾多歲呀？讀緊中幾呀？我個女就快13歲啦，不過她對自已要求幾高的，好似上年她考 theory grade 5 只考到 75分，她都唔高興，還哭了幾次，我還要安慰佢合格都唔錯啦，好彩她不是在香港讀書，如果唔係相信她一定承受唔到香港的教育方法吧！

個女依家先中一,呢個月12歲啦,其實佢以前三.四年級時好殘呀,成日默書不合格,我都被佢激死,考試都係70,80分,到五年級時佢先開始努力讀書,五,六年級時成績就保持全級12名之內(都唔係好好),畢業考中,英全班頭３名,可惜派位派得唔好,只好在中中讀,依家佢都係成日要求自己要努力.
係la,你個女唔係香港讀咁係邊度讀?