有冇BB join 過東山語言中心可分享一吓

momo627

原帖由 3pigmama 於 11-1-26 00:29 發表
東山的校長自己識10國語言,兒子於男拔畢業,以前亦是高官, 值得學習, 而且他對幼教的Research,十分有見地, 有些人都未睇過,所以根本吾同Channel.  

時間會證明一切

我個女是超小B, 5個月join 東山. 10個月考4 間Pr ...

So how old is his kid started the class? I try the language classes as I do want to see if it really do help (really get some improvement since we joined last Nov), but I know many people have big difference in this aspect (for learning different types of languges since they are small).

Oh, your baby is so smart!

3pigmama

其實我好少批評人, 不過佢講D野根本都吾logical,又離題, 又冇品, 其實我都忍吾住要出聲.  我一定吾會教我的小朋友"踩人地個場". 更加吾會同佢"傾".

carmen_sach

thx............

[ 本帖最後由 carmen_sach 於 11-1-26 12:32 編輯 ]

momo627

exactly same thoughts with yours!

I never critize on others or leave msg here in this way, but her words are really irritating.

Yes, I learn from here, thanks for sharing of all mammys so that I know what and how and when to do what, b4 and after giving birth to babies (as most of my friends don't have child yet or they are to busy to share, and our parents are tool old and they may not with the same concept with our generation). I meet a lot of friends here, share our feelings, sharing good information and have gatherings.

We re not saying we don't accept differnent views, just don't say sth. to hurt others. That's .

momo627

hi howardmama09,

can I know your son's progress since he joins till now.

My baby joins in Nov last yr, he has spanish first, once a week. We found it interesting and the teacher said it is better to let him have more classes the he has chance to "hear". I agree as no one can speak Spanish at home, and we can't teach them except listening to CD, and we try to repeat the words we heard (knowing the meaning) and practise with my baby.

But how long it takes for him to speak eg. the alphahett, count 1 to 10? I know different babies have different growth rate, but my baby is 19 mths now, seldom speak, but better after attending the class and try to pronouce a bit, bt no the "full word".

We tried Mandarin last week, as my hb said it is useful, and in the class, I was surprised to see my baby reading teacher's lip and try to pronouce the word eg. hung kei, he will try to say "hung" but fail to do "kei"....but really good, this is the first time I see he can do this as he nevers looks at people (even we talk to him except he wants sth.) and now he can try to speak a bit....we then try this at home, and yes, he improves much. Yet, I am thinking, how long would it take for him to have better improvement (cos yet he is lag behind from others.

I am not expecting those can speak 2 or 3 languages, counting 1 to 10 and A to Z when they are 20 mths or 2 yrs old.

And how many langages you have enrolled? Any tips that they won't mix up the words of different languages as some people always say the baby may speak a sentence with spanish + english + cantonese.

Thanks your for advice in advance.

momo627

Thanks for your advice.

I think we have started too late.....as many 'comments' it is uselss or waste time or too harsh to 5 mths old baby to have language class so early....sigh! Another point is, as it is my maid who brings him to school, but she has no sense of danger to protect him, so we don't dare to let him go out with him by his own untill he is big and strong enough.

尤其是2歳前啟發右腦<---I heard this, that's why we started last Nov, and take more lessons now

而你小朋友現在剛19月呢,還未過黃金期而且才剛剛上了2個月,效果可能未有這麼快,但這時間正是他們開始說話,所以要好好把握.<--hope so ah.

My baby can walk and yes, doing the same as your baby, 主動d, and爬來爬去跟老師玩.

I do want to have 2 Spanish class a week also, agree with u, 希望刺激他多聽西班牙. So bad that I got poor memory, even I have classes with him, I forget immediately, my maid even do better job than me (I am too old to memorise new things), so we can
t speak Spanish to him at home, just rely on the CD playing the songs, and we sing with him and he seems knowing some words like those alphabet and good morning...so our progress is slower as we can't do as much as you do.

而我自己定了逢星期三整天跟他講日文<--so good you can do that by your own, I can speak a bit, but too lazy to teach lor.

And your baby is very smart, so happy for you.

As you mention you have 2 Spanish, French and English, so how many lesson you have a week/month? 4 lessons per week?

As we only start to try to have Mandararin and Japanese in Feb, but we have 3 lessons a week only, so we need to cut down the 2 Spanish class per week, to 5 Spanish/mth, 3 English, 3 Mandarin and 2 Japanese.

My hb thinks learning English and Mandarin is more useful and should start earlier, but to me, I think they will learn it in 6 mths later in PN, but ok for earlier leaning ger. Learning Japanese is only to see if he likes it, as I like going to Japan, haha.

Would you mind giving me your view on my arrangement of classes? Should I stick on 2 Spanish a week, and 2 English + 2 Mandarin in alternative week and forget about Japanese?

放心啦,我好相信你的小朋友一定會學得很好,只是未到時候,正如我小朋開始說話就停不了,而且銅鑼灣我也有上過,那些老師也不錯呢<---thank you so much for your encouragement....really hard to share on this as my friends' kids didn't join the class, and some may "critizie" on it. I join as one of my friend recommended me to try and her daugter started since she is 5 mths old.

Thanks you in advance.

pandabonita

just passing by.

without a doubt parents enroll to these lang pgs did it w their best intention but have you mums considered the possible downside and whether it is the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain and prepare your kids for kg application.

momo627

Thanks for your sharing.

So would you mind sharing with us what is the "the possible downside" and any good suggestion that is "the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain and prepare your kids for kg application."?

Looking forward for your sharing as it may help us knowing more good ideas.

Thank.s

bettybeibei

其實學多學少都無錯與對, 我自己聽過東山校長 gar presentation, 試過 playgroup, 其實我覺得只要家長有時間, afford 到, 比小朋友學多 d 語言絕對無壞, 講真, BB (0-3) playgroup 真係玩玩下咁, 唔會 harsh 要 BB 寫字做功課, 有何壓力而言?

pandabonita

each child and family background is different so downside for some might not be a downside for others.  generally speaking though, children in a multilingual env will take longer to communicate in full sentences.  similarly, best way to prepare my kids for kg and primary school might not be suitable for you (and anyway, I am still a learner) as that really depends on your target.  

have you seen "can we believe the science"? it was on pearl a while back.  in one episode, prof regan looked into various claims on improving childrens intelligence, scientifically.   i am not sure if its still available on tvb's website but probably you can try to get a copy somewhere if you are interested.

原帖由 momo627 於 11-1-28 19:53 發表
Thanks for your sharing.

So would you mind sharing with us what is the "the possible downside" and any good suggestion that is "the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain ...

momo627

Sorry for my poor English, I can't quite understand what you are trying to tell.

I understand you are saying children living in a multilingual environment may take longer time to speak in complete sentences in same language as they may mix up with different ones (did I get it right?). And you are saying what suits your kids or not may not be equally applicable/useful to me.

As you said "have you mums considered the possible downside and whether it is the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain and prepare your kids for kg application", I thought you will share with us your experience and views and any good ideas on how to do the best/in the most cost effective way to train the kids and prepare for KG.........it doesn't matter whether your case is applicable to us, it is just a forum for mammys to share their experience and we will learn from there and pick those suit our cases.

So it would be great if you could share your experience with us, that we can learn those no matter good/bad methods you have tried, we learn from them.

Thank you.

pandabonita

as I mentioned b4, I am just passing  by and the reason I clicked into this thread is to look for a good english course for my 2nd daughter b4 she starts k1 coming sept.  my eng is not perfect but its quicker for me to type and apology if my msg was not clear.

children are v good in learning languages, they do not get confused in a multilingual env but it will take them more time and effort to process and digest the info.  so eg, an average child should be able to say a few simple sentences by the age of 2.  kids in a multilingual env might only be able to speak in complete sentences way after 2 but it might still be better off in the long run because they can speak om more than 1 language when they get older and if you dont need your kid to communicate in complete sentence by age 2, this is not going to be a problem for you.

sharing of my own experience and my personal view might not apply to you and might turn into a v long discussion, I think it will be better to share what I consider good info, eg. prof regan's tv program, you guys/mami can decide what best suits your situation.  cuhk also have seminars on lang development:

http://www.ihcr.cuhk.edu.hk/events/main.htm

and if you havent already done so, I strongly recommend you visit the bk kg section to see what challenges some parents face on k1 interview.

cheers

momo627

sorry that if I have said sth. wrong, and I don't mean to say your English is not good, I just want to avoid misunderstanding.

Thank you so much for your sharing, that makes me feel relieved as I am worry if you mean learnng multi language at 19 mth (my baby) is not good that he can't speak full sentence in the future, now I know you mean he may not be do as well as those 2 yr old kid but it is good in long term run as he can speak in different language, just later.

Thanks again for sharing of your information, and yes, maybe I should go and visitthose bk kg session instead of PN one only as I have been concentrating on PN interview at the moment.

Thanks again and apology for anything that make you feel bad.

momo627

Hi, so happy to have your sharing. As most of my friends have not married and those married won't tell me in detail, so always looking for information in BK. So good that many mammys share their experience and I learn everything here since I was pregnant.

Yes, I do want to have Spanish 2 lessons/wk and agree with your point, and yes, I can't but my maid can pronouce some words.

如果你問我,我會選擇一星期基本2堂Spanish,一堂French+一堂(輪流Eng,pth,japanese)<--I didn't have French ah, only 5 (lessons) Spanish (once a week + 1 lesson) + 3 English + alterative (week) for Japanese and Mandarin.

As I will have trial for Japanese in Admiralty tmr, see if it is good or else, I will change back to 6 Spanish + 3 English + 3 Mandarin. It is hard to have 2 Spanish a week, as we join only 3 lesson a week, there will be only 4 lessons left for English & Mandarin....will see how he is doing and change me plan. Actually we did have 2 lessons week for Spanish in Dec and Jan.

Oh, which pn your baby is now studying. I am a bit worry as some pn, though said to have PTH/Eng session, but may only start from K1 or having 20 min@day for PN, so I am not sure if they will really do PTH/Eng in PN.

We have been having interviews for many schools, but we only got offers for pm sessions. Those in my top 5 priority, we haven't had interviews until March. But my baby is those who seldom speak (so we join language last Nov, after seeing my baby's performance in interviews in Oct, haha), and won't do what teachers ask, I don't think he can get a place from those "popular" ones.

Many mammys think it is good to have am class. I do think it may be, as it suits their sleeping & feeding time, and after school he can have lunch and take rest and even have 1 or 2 lessons a week in the afternoon. But he needs to get up much early (now he is 9 am, originally 8 am, but sometimes he doesn't sleep in the afternoon, so we let him to sleep more in the morning, then have language class at 10:15 am), is it good?

But sure if we have pm class, the time schedule changes upside down, sigh, I really don't know how to fit it, and he can't learn anything on weekdays (I am going saying to have many lessons a week, I mean there may be some cases there is vacancy for learning Spanish in weekday, but it is always full or no such option in Sat/Sun).

Glad to have your sharing!

momo627

hi, so glad to meet u there.

I'll go tmr for PHT trial, if it is good, we'll have alternative Fri for PHT/Japanese. Any idea id Ms. Cai is good?

I am still struggling between the 2 for Spanish. "M" is really good & my son likes her very much, but her time schedule for "big B" is 9 am or 11:30 am or afternoon, which do not suit, and it sounds most bs are 2.5 yr old...do you think it is ok?

I want to see if we can have free trial for "R" tmr b4 PHT, but as you said, she may be a bit strict, and the girl there recommends me to "A", saying she is more active. What do you think?

How old those b are, in your baby's spanish class? I am not sure if my baby likes her. And if I switch to Admiralty, originally we can have language + music on Tue & Fri, now we need to "spread" and have 1 lesson a day in weekdays so no rest on Wed....so very headache.

And about English, the girl recommends JoJo to me, any idea? Cos we have "K" at the moment but my hb says there is nothing special, haha, esp. compared with our Spanish class.

Give me some advice ah. Thanks.