我家有個小頑童﹗

River2004

Dear Faith,

不用客氣，大家都加油喇！


regards
River  

二當家

Dear all,

嘩!!!一口氣睇o左7頁...真係睇到眼都花.....

我家就有一個半o的頑童,大仔快3歲,細仔1歲半多o的.細仔暫時我都可以控制到,但大仔真o的令我......

大仔依家返緊全日o的BB班,響學校都一個守紀律o的小朋友,不過老師話佢比較被動,仲有o的cool添.可怕o的係放學前及放學後,超級勁扭.佢係一個好無安全感o的小朋友,佢一個好壞o的習慣就係要啜手指(仲要加條毛巾),但響學校又從來唔啜手指.

至於,響屋企同faith o的仔也好相似情況,好多時會命令我地做o野,開"木台"食飯都要問過佢,etc....etc....不能盡錄....

有無人可以幫o下我???????

faith

sorry, 二當家，我的電腦壞壞地，所以打字慢，收到你的pm，卻無法用pm回應你。希望快點無事。
或許你可以試下加入我弄的group
http://hk.groups.yahoo.com/group/highlysensitiveperson_group/     email 給我---snowishsp或在那兒發表，那兒的member如果我無估錯，應都是hsp或有hsp孩子的家長，大家會有同理心的。

faith

二當家，我要分開兩次寫，因為經常自動deleted了，辛苦打完竟一下子無了...
最近仔仔因病了無返學夾埋假期都有九天，奇怪的事來了，他竟然一八八十度變乖了，很溫順，又有禮貌，無發脾氣，點解？這才開始醒覺到----是學校﹗學校﹗學校，那間我硬要他返去的學校......原來他在學校壓力好大，去完家長日先知，難怪他要回家---一個安全的地方︳去把他的壓力釋放出來，而那個發洩對象就係我和我先生，.....終於可以脫下一些罪名了。這幾天家庭和諧得很，我心情也好很多。他不再無理發脾，我自然也平靜也溫柔多了。但頭痛的是---又要去搵學校.....

二當家

faith,

我等緊你....

你個yahoo 個group我琴日剛試過,但未係好識用,遲o下我會再試!

你響其他o的topic我實在無法答口,因為你地越講越複雜,所以我只係響o黎個topic出少少聲....因為我只知我家真o的有一個頑童!!!!

其實老師係話呀仔比o左好大壓力自己,所以回家返到屋企就會將不安o的情緒發出來.....佢o的壓力從可而來?由我地???還是佢自己比自己呢???真o的學校出問題??我都有咁諗過,但點樣証實呢???唔通唔比佢返學一段長時間來証明??

我好惓,除o左大仔仲有細仔!!!

faith

二當家:
     所以…….我絕對唔會再生第二個，除非有一千萬。
至於我怎樣分別到仔仔可能最近的可怕脾氣是可能因不適應學校呢？首先，八月中上學前，我和他在家發生的衝突不算多，多數是因為他活潑和過於興奮，或是愛唱反調，凡事諸多藉口，很爛玩。
但到八月中返學後，過了不久，脾氣開始變得有點不講理。上學第二天就跌低咬傷自己個口唇，原因是老師說要去toilet，他很緊張，就咁跌低了，之後家長日，老師說他很多事都會很緊張，很多時撞到門邊或椅子，又就像之前說過，開學不久，老師在他心中己失去誠信，講完大話又再講，阿仔生氣極了。
老師說他十分文靜，內向，也很慢熱。
不久，阿仔回家說怹不想上學，我問怹為甚麼，他說不想吃茶點和玩玩具。我同老師講，叫她就不要給怹玩玩具，怎知老師說他根本就無玩，全班在玩︳只有他一人坐著不玩。
又過了一段時間，阿仔突然十分抗拒上學，細問之下，才知因老師罵坐在他隔黎的同學，因他不肯做功課，他說他驚，也很生氣咁話，一星期多每天上學前見他心事重重，很惶恐似的。我又無辦法，校長見他死唔肯上課室，說他懶惰，兩天都咁話他。他一上課室便狂哭，校長竟然瞞著說他很快已無事。
每一天，他都對我說不想上學，不喜歡老師，老師很惡。
最後，他知道吵了一輪都係要他上學，他開始不再那樣吵，雖不太願意也去上學了，但脾氣就更壞了，變得不可理喻，莫名奇妙，搞到我們天天關係惡劣。他對爸爸發的脾氣更得人驚，要取得自主權和尊嚴…..而另一方面，他在學校則戰戰競競，不許自己行差踏錯，本來極度自我中的個性也要逼自己變得順從，老師還對我說他很驚她。於是一個極度自我的孩子被要求絕對的服從，見到有人不服從的下場，我想敏感的他真的感到很辛苦，加上學校老;師又不值得他尊重(不尊重學生、又說謊話)，他既生氣又無助，於是回家自然要把壓力釋放出來，很可憐，因為我們不接受他的 “釋放”，看到有書話，小朋友是需要有一個安全的處所讓他釋放壓力的…我們又不懂得開導怹，也未搞清楚他到底怎麼回事。現在剛巧他生病，不用上學，他真的平靜了許多，耐性和容忍度也高了。
你的細仔也很敏感嗎？聽說敏感也可以遺傳，你自己或你另一半也有敏感的問題嗎？

至於我在另一些topic的 “謬論”，哈哈，我以前唔係咁架，在一班人的討論會或集會上，我有意見都唔會出聲，唔敢出聲，做個旁觀者安全些……但不知為何，結了婚，生埋仔，愈來愈大膽、放肆、更加敏感…….於是就更容易受傷….

faith

DEAR stellal
      你兩個小朋友身體好點沒有？為何咳那麼久？吃中藥會不會好些？我阿仔的鼻水流了一星期不止，轉了第二個中醫，吃一劑，第二天就收了，不過仍有鼻涕倒流和輕微鼻炎，很煩。顧得好學校又顧不了身體，錢也是問題。做父母真不容易....

dear二當家﹕我收到your pm，我也十分十分happy可以和你傾計......我剛轉了用另一部電腦，下次試下可唔可以用pm

二當家

GOOD MORNING,  faith,

琴日想回應,但總係寫得唔好,最後放棄無打.

我成日諗......學校就係社會o的縮影,就算比你搵到一間好學校,一個好熱心教育o的校長,我地點都無法保証老師係好人(唔講大話),真係好講彩數!!!!有時真係好想有部錄影機.....睇到事實o的真相!!!因為早兩星期,大仔比同學仔咬傷.到依家個印仲響樹....

仔仔好番未!!!返學未!!!

我仔仔都流o左成兩個星期鼻水,總算停o左.你發唔發覺佢地食西醫o的時候,特別忟憎,特別扭計.每次大仔病就一定野比細仔,跟著細仔就o野比我&工人......如是者每人約睇兩次醫生,你話條數係咪好襟計!!!

你知嗎???今日係大仔返o左近四個月以來,第一次返學前唔洗扭計,順順利利o的上學去....平日o的佢返學前一定玩我地,有時無lar lar話要搭校車,有時又話返半日,唔響學校瞓覺,有時又話唔記得bye-bye我(佢瞓醒時,我已返工)....又乜又物,總係要扭.不過,聽日可能又扭計,我地已經有晒心理準備????

仲有我個大仔係一個唔足月o的BB(只得34周),出世時只得2.1KG,要瞓氧氣箱,要插胃喉,好彩醫生話佢算叻仔,好快就可以自己呼吸及飲奶.....出院時5磅都唔夠.....你話難唔難湊???

faith

二當家﹕
      係咪唔足月的小朋友都會有唔同程度的問題？(生理或情緒)不過我仔仔出世時是差一天就滿36週，2.58kg，都算過關，不過覺得他好像較細粒，唔知同唔足月有冇關，定係遺傳，他爸爸唔高，如果遺傳我娘家就會好些呢﹗

      我想你仔仔的情緒學校都有可能是元兇之一吧？？我也覺得要找到一位好老師，真的看運氣了﹗唉﹗

faith

stellacl
      你的小朋友肯唔肯食苦藥架？我阿仔吃太多中藥，導致有灰黑色的牙積，你記得俾佢地飲完後用水嗽嗽口或刷牙會好些。

ckf

stellacl :

My daughter also got sinus and 氣管敏感and finally developed哮喘, she was very sick last winter(4 month on mediation including 7 kinds of antibiotics).  She finally recovered early Feb this year.  This year, I took my family doctor's advice, start from September (when the weather start change) I use Saline solution (salt water) to wash/clean her nose everyday/night for preventing敏感發作.  It works, until today, her sinus didn't come back and her asthma is gone.

I think you can find the nasal saline solution at Watsons in HK, if you cannot buy it then you make some yourself with salt and water. Here is one of the popular brand saline solution for your information :
  http://www.natlallergy.com/allergy/products/cart/display/view_one_spread.txt/spreadid/1184/page/Ocean_Saline_Nasal_Spray_for_Nasal_Congestion.html

ckf

Stellacl :

If the one that your Dr gave you is non-medicated, then it should also be used on kids.  However, you may try to see if you can find the "Ocean" saline nasal solution/spray  in Watsons or other Pharmacy.  "Ocean" is a brand name and it is very very popular in US, so Watsons or other Pharmacy may carry it.  Ocean saline is non-medicated and it's just like plain salt water.  Other nasal saline solution like Afrin usually is medicated and it is not good for kids.

You can search on the web to see if you can buy Ocean nasal saline from those web sites that sells medicines if you cannot get it from Watsons.  

BTW,here is an althernative named "Ayr" Saline Nasal gel, my daughter sometimes use this instead of the saline solution :-

http://www.bfascher.com/product.asp?groupID=0&ID=4

The following we site sell the Ayr product, you may go there and check it out :

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=11581&catid=9333&aid=335972&aparam=ayr_saline_nasal_gel

Ayr also non-medicated,they also have Baby Ayr saline nasal spray/drops too.

If you cannot buy both then I will suggest you use a teaspoon of salt and add certain amount of water to make your own saline solution rather then use those medicated one.

faith

dear ckf:
       十分謝謝你給了這麼好的一個suprise....阿仔現在每天朝早起床仍有一兩次黃綠鼻涕，晚上仍因鼻涕倒流刺激氣管有幾聲咳(上年開始有慢性鼻炎，醫了好久吃了一大堆中藥，轉了幾次醫生才好，但最近又是這個天氣，又開始翻發了)。
現已吃了一星期中藥，每天見他吃苦藥真的我也很心痛。
       想知道，那些生理salt water是否要買指定用在洗鼻的。又如何洗？用棉簽放在鼻孔刷一刷嗎？每天洗幾多次？要洗整個冬天？抑或多久呢？salt water買回來開蓋後可以放多久？又現在鼻炎仍未完全好，可以洗嗎？

sorry，我也有這麼多問題....因為....很煩惱.....thanks

ckf

Stellacl :

Ocean nasal spray is made by Fleming & company, here is their web site :

http://www.flemingcompany.com/ocean/ocean.html

Faith :

1.Usually you will see an expiration date on the bottle of the Saline nasal solution you bought.

2.要買指定用在洗鼻的 and non-medicated,可用棉簽放在鼻孔刷一刷, or spray the saline solution inside the nostril.   I do it with my daughter every morning and evening before she sleep and during day time when after she sneeze out the 鼻涕

3.鼻炎仍未完全好，可以洗, because the sodium will help to clean germs/dusts that go inside the nose

4洗多久 ? at least untill鼻炎完全好, then use it at the evening in Winter for preventing翻發

5. Non-medicated sodium(salt) water can use long time BUT the medicated one NOT, so be sure read the instruction on the bottle of saline solution before you buy at the Pharmacy. I only know OCEAN nasal saline and Ayr nasal saline gel  is non-medicated, so it can be used very often.

6.  "home  made" salt water also OK, so may be you can try it before you buy the saline solution.
You have to adjust the ratio of salt and water you mix  and mix it "mild", not too "salty", otherwise your kid may feel hurt ("Na")   

7.  You have to apply it for a period of time then you will see the effect ( several days or more then you will see the 鼻涕 start to clear.

8.One more thing, about 鼻涕倒流刺激有幾聲咳, try to drink less milk or drink soy milk instead as the milk potein will cause those 鼻涕 go down to 氣管 and then stud there.  Those "tam" (鼻涕)is not easy for your kid to cough out, then your kid will cough more and more and it's also easy to change to氣管炎

faith

DEAR ckf
     我和stellacl 也有類似的疑問。我通常是給仔仔在早上吃熱鮮奶，黃昏一杯適x健奶粉，由於他肺弱(中醫認為此乃導致鼻敏感因素)，他不太適宜drink 豆漿，但他已是全班最細粒幾個之一(雖然他是將近十一月生)，怕他不吃奶會更細粒，羊奶片可以嗎？
hehehe，把你當成醫生咁問...

ckf

stellacl :

Our kids are too little they won't like it and it is difficult to teach them to clean the nose as the doctor taught you. My daughter also doesn't like it at the beginning even I just squeeze the Ocean saline solution to her nostril.  So I spray/squeeze the saline solution to 棉簽 and use 棉簽 to clean her nose few times a day.  After the 鼻涕 is clear, I still do it one time at night for prevention.
BTW,  at the beginning, your son may not like the saline because it does burn a little bit but once he get used, it should be no problem.  
If your son is not refuse you to put some drops inside his nostril then just do it  this way and let it come out from the nostrils freely instead of coming out from the mouth.  It will work.  

Now I use the Ayr jel, I just put about a "bean" size portion into her nose every night before she goes to sleep.  I think may be you can ask the doctor to see if he can give you the Ayr gel instead of the Ayr mist.  

Regarding the milk protein, my doctor said stop to give the kid milk when they got 鼻涕 and cough as milk will make the case worse and worse, but soy milk is OK to drink.  So, everytime when my daugher start sneeze and has 鼻涕 I will stop to give her fresh milk.   I used to give my daughter soy milk at the morning and fresh milk at the afternoon.  

Faith :

Stop to drink milk for a while is OK especially when your son got flu or sinus inflection and cough.  Drink milk is for taking calcium, you can find calcium on other food, eat some more of those foods that carries calcium instead.  Goat milk has the same effect as cow milk, soy milk is save and may be you can have your son eat more tofu and fresh soy bean, etc.  

By the way, I find a new nasal saline product at the Pharmacy today, it's pure salt(sodium) water, here is it's web site :
http://www.simplysaline.com