請教育局取消「父/母/兄/姊為該小學的畢業生」嗰 10分

4eyesDad

DSS is a slightly different story with similar issue on admission policy when some DSS schools appear to be using  public funds for doubtful purpose. Here, we are mainly concerned with government/aided schools under the government scheme. You have indeed asked a very good question: Why isn't this a fair play ground given everyone can use this 10 points? The issue in education is not that everyone (well, not exactly everyone) can use this 10 points but the rationale of giving this 10 points and whether the restriction (based on hereditary) in using the points is justifiable. I have argued that the rationale is wrong and the restriction repugnant. Suppose the government gives each person a licence to kick any person's butt, everyone can use the licence and, according to your reasoning, this isn't unfair when everyone can use the licence to kick. Is it really?

cherrieshum

妹妹豬媽媽 發表於 13-12-11 21:37
我覺得宗敎分也應該取消

我絕對贊成！雖然辦學團體是教會，但絕大營運經費是來自政府撥款，而且政府已經很優待學校，讓他們傳教，傳教豈非另類“洗腦”

cherrieshum

bigboy129 發表於 13-12-11 03:53
點解我今期六合彩唔中，我唔中，其他人都唔可以中，立即去信政府取消六合彩。見到人哋中獎，我就好唔開心， ...

比喻不當，根本不可與日同語

anntx3

請提供證據，有實際數字更好。
因為我知政府出地，同鄉會/街坊會/東華三院/保良局/教會要出錢建築物，及出人去管理，減輕政府公務員壓力。

Mannixwong

回覆 Joe8889 的帖子

謝謝大大看得起!

Joe8889

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Where are so called "public funds" come from?  Taxpayers.

So if I pay more tax I should get higher chance.  That would be fair because I make more contribution. Right?

There are plenty of ways to determine "fair".  Why we need to choose yours?  If it fair?

No absolute "fair" in the world.  

One question: which one is fair?  (i) all children at the age of 2 go for detailed assessment of their abilities; (ii) all seats go to lottery.

nello514

我想你的理解是錯，交稅是對社會的責任，並非交得多就有多些權利。

Joe8889

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I agreed.  But 4eyesDad repeatly discussed the use of "public fund".  That's why I make my comment.

I think 4eyeDad's view on fairness is wrong.

Joe8889

Enjoying 9-year free-of-charge education is a 權利.

solomonwong

原帖由 nello514 於 13-12-13 發表
我想你的理解是錯，交稅是對社會的責任，並非交得多就有多些權利。

同意

solomonwong

原帖由 cherrieshum 於 13-12-13 發表
我絕對贊成！雖然辦學團體是教會，但絕大營運經費是來自政府撥款，而且政府已經很優待學校，讓他們 ...

但這個帖子不是討論宗教分
集中d討論畢業父母的分好d

solomonwong

原帖由 chingcging 於 13-12-11 發表
最好乜分都取消晒，全港一齊抽，冇自行！

然後全世界衝晒去報私校直資，全港大混亂！然後某人目標達到，開 ...

如果政府堅持要有父母畢業生的分，我覺得乜分都取消晒仲好

piyohk

原帖由 cherrieshum 於 13-12-13 發表
我絕對贊成！雖然辦學團體是教會，但絕大營運經費是來自政府撥款，而且政府已經很優待學校，讓他們 ...

這論點，更應該有宗教分，等非教友分別學校是宗教學校，有不同的宗教洗腦課程。好使家長小心選擇。

piyohk

樓主，請問你有沒有細查（䆺核）學校的帳目？可否詳細說明「public funding」的明數項目？

anntx3

好玩呀，連好的東西也叫洗腦，等下又中文科洗腦，英文洗腦。

piyohk

樓主你也為你女兒「使用了」世襲分，自行階段也成功取錄，你也是用家。

bigboy129

原帖由 piyohk 於 13-12-13 發表
樓主你也為你女兒「使用了」世襲分，自行階段也成功取錄，你也是用家。



  ...

anntx3

piyohk 發表於 13-12-13 23:57
樓主你也為你女兒「使用了」世襲分，自行階段也成功取錄，你也是用家。



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吾係化.........

chingcging

原帖由 piyohk 於 13-12-13 發表
樓主你也為你女兒「使用了」世襲分，自行階段也成功取錄，你也是用家。



  ...

邊間？

SCKnight

piyohk 發表於 13-12-13 23:57
樓主你也為你女兒「使用了」世襲分，自行階段也成功取錄，你也是用家。



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若果係真，樓主都好無聊，好茅盾噃！