英華明年轉直資 40網優勢全失

猴子爸

But not too many of them enjoy the Through Train arrangement.

Just take a look at the threads under Secondary Section.  You will know how much pressure the students and parents are facing when going thru the interviewing process.

Jovis

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macylovemama 寫道:
要對抗教統局的母語教學的方法之一, 証明了英文是最好的       

有錢的就入英華, 無錢的讀鮮魚行.......[/quote

That is life.  Rich drives Mercedes and Poor takes bus.
Rich dines at Amigo and Poor dines at Cafe de Carol.
Fair enough!!!
It lets students understand that they have to study hard in order to have a better future.

010

me too

mayc 寫道:
講真就算真的中學要交學費,我都不會介意!
我寧願有優質的教育勝過有免費的午餐!

010

  
但再考慮還再考慮，相信該家長一樣會報
始終好的私校直資唔係咁易入到嫁．
除非自己小朋友好出色，重要係面試都出色喎．
唔係咪一樣係你選人，人選你！
現實始終係現實，教我們家長不能不低頭．

最可惜的是階級分化越見加深，是無奈，但也無何奈！

BillieBug 寫道:
我有一些諗住讀英華小學的家長朋友，表示如英華要收＄＄，就會再考慮，因為直資學校在九龍也有不少，確有其他也很理想的選擇，真是未必會選讀英華！

木土土

直資小學在香港九龍也有不少, 但一條龍上有名氣英中就無幾多!

BillieBug 寫道:
我有一些諗住讀英華小學的家長朋友，表示如英華要收＄＄，就會再考慮，因為直資學校在九龍也有不少，確有其他也很理想的選擇，真是未必會選讀英華！

andrew

直資小學在香港九龍也有不少, 但一條龍上有名氣英中就無幾多!

What means 名氣英中? Is it 英華 means 名氣? I just want to point out that when 英華 change to DSS school, the situation will be quite difference. Since parents need to pay, parents will consider every aspects to check if it worth: the HKCEE result, the teacher team, the facilities etc.

You may argue that there are many new DSS school in Kowloon too. Yes, band2 parents will choose 英華 no matter how high YingWah will charge, but, for top band1 parents, parents have many choices. Fung said that YingWah got 160A each year (Last year only one student got 7A), I think nearly half EMI schools got such result.

Moreover, the top students in YingWah primary school will find another top school, such as LaSally or DPS, that's very fair.

猴子爸

"Yes, band2 parents will choose 英華 no matter how high YingWah will charge"

May I know which schools belong to Band 1?

Based on your analysis, I can only think of DBSPD and LS.

Of course, if those Band 1 students attend schools like St. Francis, Alliance, KTS, etc., or subsidized/public schools like 油天，马头涌, etc., they may have a chance to go to secondary schools like 皇仁，伊利莎伯，etc., but how high will be the chance? how stressful will be the process?

On the contrary, if YW can have full control on the admissions of P1 students, they can ensure the quality of the students (capability and family background), which will definitely have a great impact on the overall profile of the school (both Primary and Secondary).

I would say there is only one way for YW to go - UP.

So, it is a strong buy.

stevema

More schools will turn to DSS, would that means some competitive band 1 students will register before lucky draw, will not come back to central allocation? higher chance for some subsidised/ Gov't band 1 schools? of course, less band 1 schools stay with the system... any views to share?

TWMa

stevema 寫道:
More schools will turn to DSS, would that means some competitive band 1 students will register before lucky draw, will not come back to central allocation? higher chance for some subsidised/ Gov't band 1 schools? of course, less band 1 schools stay with the system... any views to share?

有附屬小學的 EMI 中學才有轉直資的壓力.
將來, 只有一條龍, 沒有附屬, 再加上教學語言要和收生程度掛鈎, 粗略計算, 這些附屬小學, 年年都要保持最少 65% 以上的 Band1 率, 其直屬中學才可免於 "落車".
私校有收生權, Band1 率七、八成已極佳, 現在的津校沒有收生權, 直屬中學要保老祖宗招牌, 正路只有 1.轉直資 2.脫鈎 兩條路走.
我認為官津 EMI 轉直資的問題不在於 "將來的 Band1 生是否較容易入官津英中" 上, 而是精英和階級化的層面推早也加大了.

對於英華轉直資, 撇除經濟因素不談, 應該算是好事一樁, 我想, 有了收生權, 應該可以減少許多不避要的操練.

猴子爸

But I have a question:
DSS with Thru Train arrangement has the freedom in designing its own curriculum.  For example, they can choose to teach more subjects in English and offer more activity based programs instead of pushing students to be exam expert.

Now, does that mean only the students admitted after '08 can enjoy the new curriculum?

andrew

DSS with Thru Train arrangement has the freedom in designing its own curriculum. For example, they can choose to teach more subjects in English and offer more activity based programs instead of pushing students to be exam expert.

I think every school has the freedom in designing its own curriculum,  the subsidy school and government school won't do that just because of lasiness or the range of students' abilities is too large.

FUNG12345

andrew 寫道:
[quote]直資小學在香港九龍也有不少, 但一條龍上有名氣英中就無幾多!

What means 名氣英中? Is it 英華 means 名氣? I just want to point out that when 英華 change to DSS school, the situation will be quite difference. Since parents need to pay, parents will consider every aspects to check if it worth: the HKCEE result, the teacher team, the facilities etc.

You may argue that there are many new DSS school in Kowloon too. Yes, band2 parents will choose 英華 no matter how high YingWah will charge, but, for top band1 parents, parents have many choices. Fung said that YingWah got 160A each year (Last year only one student got 7A), I think nearly half EMI schools got such result.

Moreover, the top students in YingWah primary school will find another top school, such as LaSally or DPS, that's very fair.
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好明顯就唔係啦
有100條a o既已經會係出名o既英中啦, 依家唔少傳統名校都係150-200左右
好多band1學校(英中或中中都好) 都係50條a左右或者多少少

你成日話worth唔worth, 你覺得唔值係你問題
但我覺得就算收30000, 40000一年, 仍然有好多人覺得值

木土土

我無話英華書院是top英中, 但總算是有名氣英中, 否則不會引起廣泛討論.

而家係講緊揀小學而不是揀中學, 英華(小學) 比起其他新直資小學的優勢正是一條龍入英華書院, 如果升中時個英華小學生好勁也可以再考其他top中學如喇沙或男拔, 我唸大把家長願交$2000學費買這個保險,

當然如果喇沙小學或男拔小學收梗係更加好, 但係幾難入先得ga!

其實英華(小學)轉直資後都唔容易入, 你介意俾錢但大把人唔mind.

英華書院old boy都應該好開心, 之前只可以叩門階段入英華小學, 將來轉直資後相信機會頗大!

andrew 寫道:
[quote]直資小學在香港九龍也有不少, 但一條龍上有名氣英中就無幾多!

What means 名氣英中? Is it 英華 means 名氣? I just want to point out that when 英華 change to DSS school, the situation will be quite difference. Since parents need to pay, parents will consider every aspects to check if it worth: the HKCEE result, the teacher team, the facilities etc.

You may argue that there are many new DSS school in Kowloon too. Yes, band2 parents will choose 英華 no matter how high YingWah will charge, but, for top band1 parents, parents have many choices. Fung said that YingWah got 160A each year (Last year only one student got 7A), I think nearly half EMI schools got such result.

Moreover, the top students in YingWah primary school will find another top school, such as LaSally or DPS, that's very fair.
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TWMa

猴子爸 寫道:
But I have a question:
DSS with Thru Train arrangement has the freedom in designing its own curriculum.  For example, they can choose to teach more subjects in English and offer more activity based programs instead of pushing students to be exam expert.

"offer more activity based programs instead of pushing students to be exam expert" 絕對不是直資與官津學校的分別, 很多新成立的直資學校, 沒有往績作收生賣點, 唯有 sell 理念, 強調活動、多元.
官津學校中, 當然仍有不思長進、不注重學生的均衡發展、缺乏良好辦學理念的, 但亦有不少學校, 早已是注重全人發展的學校, 這些學校通常有較長的歷史, 有良好的行政和課程安排, 提供全人教育, 亦有許多活動和機會讓學生發覺潛能及一展潛能.
可惜的是, 這類學校有部分將來或許也得轉直資, 必將排除有交費考慮學童的入讀機會.

長毛

macylovemama 寫道:
趕走長沙灣區窮人的好方法!!!   

貧乏的一群是最需要照顧的，對嗎？

為什麼捨棄了他們!     

猴子爸

If this is the case, why do we always hear a lot of parents with kids studying in those 官津學校 complaining that the workload is super overwhelming while those studying in 直資 can have a more balanced life?

TWMa 寫道:
"offer more activity based programs instead of pushing students to be exam expert" 絕對不是直資與官津學校的分別, 很多新成立的直資學校, 沒有往績作收生賣點, 唯有 sell 理念, 強調活動、多元.
官津學校中, 當然仍有不思長進、不注重學生的均衡發展、缺乏良好辦學理念的, 但亦有不少學校, 早已是注重全人發展的學校, 這些學校通常有較長的歷史, 有良好的行政和課程安排, 提供全人教育, 亦有許多活動和機會讓學生發覺潛能及一展潛能.
可惜的是, 這類學校有部分將來或許也得轉直資, 必將排除有交費考慮學童的入讀機會.

猴子爸

It really depends on the definition of "照顧".

Building public housing with great seaview = "照顧"?

長毛 寫道:
[quote]
macylovemama 寫道:
趕走長沙灣區窮人的好方法!!!   

貧乏的一群是最需要照顧的，對嗎？

為什麼捨棄了他們!      [/quote]

FUNG12345

長毛 寫道:
[quote]
macylovemama 寫道:
趕走長沙灣區窮人的好方法!!!   

貧乏的一群是最需要照顧的，對嗎？

為什麼捨棄了他們!      [/quote]
只能說唔適合, 唔可以話捨棄
英華設施同活動都比好多學校好同多
自然會收多d錢, 加上我見小學星期六會有好多人返去學課外活動, 又係要比錢
當然勁就肯定有獎學金之類

YAUYAU

「有教無類」這個教育至高的原則和精神 is really hard to fulfil. I understand its not easy to maintain high % of english capable leaner. I feel sad to know more and more school change to DSS.