真道書院(小學部)

TomDog

Hi leehoma001,

Would you please pm the comment on this school to me too? Thanks.

KenBaBa

Dear leehoma001,

I am interested to learn your pm (private message?), however, I also share with TWMa that as this is an open forum your opinion better be made open that can arouse feedbacks.  Moreover, I also wish to learn the basis of your opinion about the school, e.g. are you once a student's parent of Logos?

I am not intending to be offensive but I would like to learn your opinion openly rather than through any secret channel.  Thanks a lot!!

20101101

Hi, KenBaBa,

leehoma001 had already explained why he/she chooses to use PM to send out his/her comments on Logos.

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leehoma001 寫道:
A sensible parent can decide by themselves whose analysis and comments are more reliable and trusthworthy.

I don't openly post my comments or feelings on Logos becuause my comments included some of my personal information which I don't want to publish here openly.  Besides, I only send the information to those parents who specially requested me but not proactively send out my comments.

"成個八婆咁" - It is really a bad manner and non-civilized to indirectly conduct personal attack on others like this.  It is really "成個八婆咁" to write thing like this.

If anyone has any solid arguments or points to comment my posting. You are most welcome to share with others here but please quote directly based on facts !!!


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judy 寫道:
說Mr. Yau係一個Supersalesman己是一個老掉牙之話題，Supersalesman有時反而是個負值，有朋友本對真道有興趣，去聽了Mr. Yau接近四次演講，覺得真道很正，但後来，覺得正得過份，而選回傳

midcochow

leehoma

我都想知道這學校嘅comments, 可否pm 給我.thx.

KenBaBa

Dear Leehoma,

Thanks for your information given.

If one's deduction is just based on information "given" while the so-called "information" is some hear-say reference, then the deduction, subject to one's analysis ability, might not be so thorough, not to mention that some might be dangerously bias.

I do appreciate that your opinion was concluded based on having a personal encounter with the school.  

However, concerning the aspect of resources, up to this stage, I do not see your doubt valid as the school is running well.  I could only say that the SuperSalesman should have obtained a very strong funding background / support from the Church.  My points are based on the facts that:

(a) there are 2 separate college buildings (千禧校舍), one for the primary and another for the secondary sector, are now standing at Tiu King Leng;
(b) the classes are running very strictly on 小班制 (not more than 30 students per class) - that 無怪乎常招教統局不滿;
(c) the school fee for Primary students stand at $2000 only;
(d) no 書簿費 is required and the handouts are distributed w/o charge;
(e) according to the SuperSalesman, he was able to ship in a container of books to fill in the school's library from USA on his efforts and the Church / school's funds.

I do not hear any rumour about removal of students to another site.

Last but not the least, I would not hide from stating that I am a parent of a student of Logos.  However, I also got to state that my son was just 插班 to it for 3 months only.  In this stage, I could not make any more comments or provide any more information about the school as I am also just started to 摸索 the new approach adopted by the school.  Only one point I'm so sure is that the teachers of this school (that I and my son have encountered) are so nice, professional and considerate that the students love them so much!!!

The school is new, the approach is new, the administration is new and the ideology is new.  This is a new school that dares to run against the mainstream.  I believe that most of the student parents would not come out to say something because the school,as many of you have criticised, it really has no proven records.  However, deep in their (our) hearts, they (we) would say, ha ha, let's see !!!

eviepa

KenBaBa

I am always interested about those newly founded DSS schools in Eastern part of HK, Logos is of course on the list.

I often heard people say that Logos is a happy school  but can't get concrete reasons.  What are the reasons that make the pupils happy when studying there?

What other advantages are the school over traditional schools?

eviepa

andrew

If one's deduction is just based on information "given" while the so-called "information" is some hear-say reference, then the deduction, subject to one's analysis ability, might not be so thorough, not to mention that some might be dangerously bias.

Well say!!!

KenBaBa

Dear Eviepa,

My elder son has just graduated from a well-known traditional primary school in Shek Kip Mei with outstanding academic result and was enrolled by a well-known secondary school in Mongkok.  My younger son previously also studied at the school in Shek Kip Mei, however, he could not achieve success in it (with very poor academic result).  It is a very cruel fact that only the very top students of the primary school could "choose" a famous and trustworthy secondary school and be exempted from the Grand Lucky Draw, therefore, I got to consider the situation of my younger son very seriously.

The reasons of my decision are:

(a) Logos is situated near by my home and is situated near to MTR station that enable Ken gets up not so early and I could often send him school and pick him up ;
(b) it has its own secondary school paves as a safety-gate;
(c) it is new with perfect hardwares;
(d) the teachers are tertiary-educated;
(e) the admin works are totally carried out by the admin staff but not the teaching staff;
(f) the Principal did convince us with the new ideology that students should not be so heavily stuffed but on the other hands the students should be guided to build up self-discipline, to have self esteem, to be able to take care of themselves and know the way of self-learning (of course 知易行難 especially for 需要插班的學生, one interesting phenomenon is that most of the 插班生 are those losers from 名校 all over the SAR.  So, demn to the HK education system);
(g) the school fee is rather low;
(h) it is a Christian school (but no reference required on your religion. In fact I and my family are not 教友).  I like Christian or Catholic schools as these schools 校風純樸、注重德育；
(i) in Summer vacations, 每一年級都會安排 overseas trip or mainland trip mainly for education purposes.

Three months have passed, my son is very happy about the school.  He stated that the teachers are very kind, considerate, reasonable and respectful.  I observed the teachers are really 溫婉斯文、諄諄善誘、與學生打成一片 but not 打學生一遍。

For the students, they really feel happy.  I guess that the reasons are:

(a) no school uniform or badge to wear that gives them a sense of freedom, special and maturity;
(b) no formal exam (but with dictations and assessments --- in fact I still wish them to have dictations, tests and exams to strengthen or refresh their memories on the knowledge);
(c) small-class system of 30 students a class;
(d) group-learning approach - 4 groups a class, with elections for class-captains and many other posts (that is what the HKSAR government should learn);
(e) 活動教學 oriented to encourage active and proactive characters and to promote optimistc and positive attitudes;
(f) no big and heavy school bag cause no books got to bring along;
(g) less homeworks but encourage reading and got to write daily log (like diary but parents are also welcome to write on it --- I often communicate with the class teacher by writing thereon);
(h) more 另類課堂, e.g. my son chose science and ping-pong ball in the afternoon of Wednesdays;
(i) more sports practice;
(j) encouragements replace punishments.

Indeed, I am just fresh in experiencing the school.  Being an old HK 填鴨 and have an exellent elder son, I am also 誠惶誠恐 on my younger son's education.  However, I have to admit that to 勉強 my younger son continue to study in his previous school would only cause him frustration, failure and total loss of confidence and self esteem.  For my particular case, to find a new way for him is far better than sending him to the obvious closed road.  It is our choice and we definitely will monitor and review very closely and frequently on the performance of both him and the school.

Wish the above information could help.  

Best regards to all who show concern to the school.

andrew

one interesting phenomenon is that most of the 插班生 are those losers from 名校 all over the SAR. So, demn to the HK education system

KenBaBa,

Those losers can also find the "idea school", long live to the  HK education system.

eviepa

KenBaBa

多謝你的詳細解說。

我希望香港多一些快樂學校，少一些高壓學校。希望真道、優才、臻美、港大同學會小學等能夠各自摸索到適合香港的活動教學模式，甚至證明是更佳的模式，讓家長知道，填鴨教學並非好辦法。

eviepa

KenBaBa

Dear eviepa,

很感激您的支持；我只是知少少扮

calvinB

我朋友個仔嗨二年級,佢自己已經知道英文唔合格,佢個仔都問

cow

真道小學每科成績只有1234，無話合格定唔合格。你朋友是否指他的小朋友英文拿3或4級呢?

calvinB

Hi sillycara,

我朋友情況同你一樣,please check pm

KenBaBa

Dear  andrew,

Thanks for your support and understandings.

其實自己有時都好矛盾，如果細仔成績好些少…如果佢早 D 開竅…如果以前間學校少番些少功課…如果…如果咁咁，咁可能佢現在仍在原校，又如果佢仍在原校，咁…。

做家長

andrew

KenBaBa,

I am quite interesting in your case, many people either send their children to new style school or send to so call elite, but you have experience in both type of school, I hope I can learn a lot from you. Yes, like every parents, I wish I can send my child to a good school.   

I am also quite confuse with this school, as you know, so many critic about this school and some or them seem quite logical, but on the other hand, I wonder if this is a bad school, why can it attract so many students, as you know, HKD20000 a year is  not a little amount of money.

yuki7114567

各位家長你地好:........其實真道比一般的學校巳有幾樣優點>(1)不須買書簿,(2)不須買校服,(3)再無任何雜費<....這3項已給家長不用再支出,全年$20000學費已超值...