Which one is better, APS, KTS, HKUGAS or Creative PS

fannycheungmc

i disagree with Y2kChild, he is strong worded and only said prejudice things because he likes HKUGAPS. I agree HKUGAPS may be very good, that is his choice. I prefer old traditional schools, i prefer free education and good ones like SJC more. Please don't attack me just because I do not like what you like.

WYmom 寫道:
I think both Y2KChild and Msma have their points.  As parents, IB authorization can give parents some kind of confidence as we are certain that our kids will be taking IB Diploma ultimately, no matter the school is "good" or not.  However, as IB authorization takes at least a few years to obtain, if the school just claim to run IB and is not in the list, there is uncertainty for the kids.

If go back to the choice of the 4 schools, I choose APS.

matthew_mama

Y2KChild
(COPY)
Like Victoria Shanghai Academy, even though it has been accredited for PYP, there are many other schools in HK intending to adopt IB which are much better than this school even though are not yet accredited for IB curriculum, e.g. ISF, CYK, HKUGA, ESF primary schools, etc.

可否告知為何這些學校也比VSA好?
Because I had interest on that school, thanks
can u explain and give some evidence

JJJC

Dear Y2KChild,

Knowing that you don't like HKUGAP, so which school you will pick out of the other 3 choices and why?  

Thanks for your input.

JJJC

fannycheungmc

just my opinion on you, Y2k child, no need to getangry. I knew you hated mother-of-four whom i respected and so you link me with her. You are like a dictator, can't accept other opinions. that is why you are prejudice. i don't believe in a word you said.

you knew mother-of-four's son is in wah yan and you jealous her, right? don't attack me please as you had attacked mother-of-four.

Y2KChild 寫道:
Dear fannycheungmc or should I call you mother-of-four

Have you read carefully what I have written before?

When and where have I said that I like HKUGAP?

What prejudice things have I written? Please quote exactly but don't just shoot blind arrows.

What point or points do you disagree with me? I have written many points.

You may not like my person opinions or views but you cannot deny the facts or concepts I wrote.

As I had written before that I am not intending to attack others' views or opinions even though they might not be the same of me. I would only try to clarify any misunderstanding on the facts or concepts. Sometimes I will also give my personal views and opinions as I have said before that there are no rights or wrongs on personal views. You may also express your own views and opinions.

Have I made myself clear?

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fannycheungmc 寫道:
i disagree with Y2kChild, he is strong worded and only said prejudice things because he likes HKUGAPS. I agree HKUGAPS may be very good, that is his choice. I prefer old traditional schools, i prefer free education and good ones like SJC more. Please don't attack me just because I do not like what you like.
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WYmom 寫道:
I think both Y2KChild and Msma have their points.  As parents, IB authorization can give parents some kind of confidence as we are certain that our kids will be taking IB Diploma ultimately, no matter the school is "good" or not.  However, as IB authorization takes at least a few years to obtain, if the school just claim to run IB and is not in the list, there is uncertainty for the kids.

If go back to the choice of the 4 schools, I choose APS.

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matthew_mama

thanks for your reply

Y2KChild 寫道:
Dear matthew_mama

Sorry for late replying your question as I am busy to clarify some other points.

Before answering your question, I would like to declare clearly that I am not the authority to judge or to declare which schools are better. I am just expressing my personal views, opinions and feelings on differernt schools for your own reference. Other people may have different views and I will respect to their own views.

Regarding my personal preferences among VSA, ISF, CYK, HKUGA & ESF primary schools, I will put VSA to my least preference.

ESF primary schools have a long history and proven records of the good results. I also have personal experience on the education system and approach adopted by ESF primary schools as my boy is now studying at one of the ESF primary schools and he has significant progress even only studying for a few months.

I had considered before to put my boy to ISF after indepth review on the education philosophy of ISF as well as direct observations on its students during the several open-days I attended. However, I finally declined ISF's offer not because the school is not good but because of the exceptional high school fee such that there is a risk of insufficent students and it may cause the school not be able to be developed as its plan. If I were not received the offer from ESF, I would surely put my boy to ISF.  

I appreciate very much on the education philosophy and teaching approach adopted by HKUGA. However, as I had writtend in another thread that HKUGA is still very young and it needs time to see the actual results. Besides, I doubt whether HKUGA can really achieve its education philosophy or whether it can implement its claimed teaching approach effectively because of limited resources. Note that the school fee of HKUGA is very low even including the subsidy from EMB, the total available resource for its recurring expenses is still very limited. Under such limited resources, it may not be easy to implement its approach effectively (e.g. not sufficient resouces to employ large number of teachers to reduce the teacher/student ratios, to employ or retain high quality teachers, ....). That is why I had mentioned in another thread that in comparing St. Stephen Primary and HKUGA, I will prefer St. Stephen Primary.

I have no experience nor any inside-information about CYK and VSA. However, I had seen many different discussions in various threads of BK forum and I have a general good feeling on the education philosophy and approach adopted by CYK.

On the other hand, I personally do not like the schools operated under the Victoria education group because I think they are too commercial. They like running a business instead of education. Of course I don't have any data or evidence on the academic or non-academic achievements of the Victoria's schools. This is purely a very personal feeling and preference.








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matthew_mama 寫道:
Y2KChild
(COPY)
Like Victoria Shanghai Academy, even though it has been accredited for PYP, there are many other schools in HK intending to adopt IB which are much better than this school even though are not yet accredited for IB curriculum, e.g. ISF, CYK, HKUGA, ESF primary schools, etc.

可否告知為何這些學校也比VSA好?
Because I had interest on that school, thanks
can u explain and give some evidence

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ChiChiPaPa

Y2KChild 寫道:
Dear JJJC

Although I have mentioned that I don't prefer HKUGAP but it will be subject to the available choices I have. I am sorry to say that out the four schools you mentioned, I will choose HKUGAP as my first choice if I have to select one out of them.

My rationale are:

1. I don't like the traditional education approach adopted by APS and KTS although it may have a quite good academic achievements. I would prefer my kid to be educated under an activity-based education approach and follow the IB curriculum. I still believe that kids can achieive high academic results as well as having a happy school life if they are educated under appropriate ways. I don't want to elaborate on this  point anymore as it will be quite long.

2. I am not quite sure what approach Creative PS is using. It seems that Creative PS adopts an approach similar to international schools. Therefore, I will prefer this rather than APS or KTS.

3. However, in comparing with HKUGAS, Creative PS does not have its secondary school (please correct me if I am wrong). Then you will be driven into the dilemma that you have to be very concern on the progress of your kids's internal school assessment including the performance on every test, every exam as well as the ranking of your kids because you have to establish a good records as well as a high academic achievement for your kid in order to get into a prestige or elite secondary school. This is exactly what I dislike and also one of major problems of the current's HK educational system.

4. HKUGAS is a "through-train" school and you have no need to worry on securing a place for its secondary school. You may have a better long-term plan of how to develop your kid but not too focusing on the results of individual internal school assessment. Besides, I have seen the newly constructed HKUGAS's secondary school at Wong Chuk Hang. The facilities seem very nice and the surrounding environment is very ideal for studying .

The above are just my personal views and I hope that they can stimulate some of your thoughts.

Y2KChild,

我在子女選擇學校方面都做了不少的資料搜集，所以想對你所說的其中一點作出回應。啟思小學的直屬英文直資中學將於本年內落成。

ChiChiPaPa

http://www.css.edu.hk

    Creative Secondary School   is a new co-educational English school located in the Sai Kung District. The school will open in September 2006.

    Creative Secondary School will share the quality educational philosophy of Creative Primary School and its Kindergarten in Oxford Road, Kowloon Tong. Founded in 1985, the award winning primary school is recognized for its exceptionally caring ethos and unique educational approach that successfully integrates the best of Chinese and Western educational ideals. Throughout the years the school has enjoyed immense popularity and support from parents, students and the community.


    Our secondary school will continue to practice the philosophy of ‘Invitational Education’ by establishing a caring, trusting and positive school environment. The aim is to help our students enhance their confidence and self-esteem. Whilst promoting their academic achievement, we will also encourage them to develop positive values and attitudes for future success in life.


    We are planning to implement the International Baccalaureate Middle Years Programme (IB MYP) through using the new Hong Kong secondary school curriculum. For university entry, we will offer our students the choice of either graduating with the new Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education or with the IB Diploma.

    When fully established, Creative Secondary School will become an integral part of a significant educational community providing the best possible bilingual all-round education for students in Hong Kong from the age of 3 to 18.