私立學校和國際學校的分別？

Cara2006

shadeslayer 發表於 16-11-6 16:51
Most PISs have English as first language?  Like Sacred Heart Canossian primary school, Choi Kai Yau ...

I think most IB PIS like ISF and VSA have quite a lot of students taking English A.

nintendo

heebo 發表於 16-11-6 21:46
I believe she refers to Private Independent Schools (PIS) vs International Schools.  I never knew th ...

Do you have the link to the PIS list? I did not know ICS is a PIS.

nintendo

Cara2006 發表於 16-11-6 14:31
DSE English = second language 唔係好多 LS 學生知。
我親戚個女 DSE English 5* ，DSE 中文 5，佢話自 ...

Apparently, most students in Hong Kong believe they have better English than Chinese, by merely looking at the DSE grades. Seems like no one has told them that their English curriculum is second language only.

poonseelai

nintendo 發表於 16-11-6 23:27
Do you have the link to the PIS list? I did not know ICS is a PIS.

http://applications.edb.gov.hk/schoolsearch/schoolsearch.aspx?langno=1
Search "secondary", then "finance type - private independent scheme

heebo

nintendo 發表於 16-11-6 23:27
Do you have the link to the PIS list? I did not know ICS is a PIS.

[size=39.5197px]http://edb.hkedcity.net/internationalschools/private_independent_schools.php?lang=en

nintendo

heebo 發表於 16-11-7 00:43
http://edb.hkedcity.net/internationalschools/private_independent_schools.php?lang=en

"PISs are required to ensure that at least 70% of the student population are Hong Kong Permanent Residents."


So under this definition, people that have obtained a permanent resident id card do qualify? Then this is easy. I know a lot of gweilo have lived here long enough and have got permanent resident id card.

Radiomama

nintendo 發表於 16-11-7 03:21
"PISs are required to ensure that at least 70% of the student population are Hong Kong Permanent Re ...

因此DC有許多外國學生而仍能滿足教育局的要求，而有些新興IS 收許多香港人也無問題，因為均持海外護照；每間學校都有不同student mix, 就算under the same category, e.g. PIS 或 IS, 所以去學校參觀/school tour好重要。

這個月份，好多學校都有school fair, 應該去感受一下。

heebo

nintendo 發表於 16-11-7 03:21
"PISs are required to ensure that at least 70% of the student population are Hong Kong Permanent Re ...

True. So whether a school provides an international education depends on a lot of factors, like many parents above have pointed out.  PIS is a type of school which has received land grant at a nominal premium plus a one-off capital grant for construction of school premises. ICS is a PIS under this definition although I view it is an international school. Many non-locals can have HKID. Likewise,  locals can have foreign passports.

shadeslayer

Cara2006 發表於 16-11-6 23:21
I think most IB PIS like ISF and VSA have quite a lot of students taking English A.

In a proper IS, no students are taking English B bar I guess a few exceptional cases.

shadeslayer

964000 發表於 16-11-6 19:41
Actually what kind of private school is the host referring to? Local school private school or inter ...

So PIS vs IS is the wrong question to ask as they have so much in common in some cases and yet so different in others.

Parents should review both the list of IS and PIS, short list them based on other more important criteria and use PIS/IS as one attribute.

hkparent

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 16-11-07 發表
In a proper IS, no students are taking English B bar I guess a few exceptional cases.

Similarly, I guess no students in IS are taking Chinese A.

Therefore, in general:
IS (Eng A, Chi B), local school (Chi A, Eng B; or both Chi A & B), PIS (Chi A and/or B).

hkparent

原帖由 hkparent 於 16-11-07 發表
Similarly, I guess no students in IS are taking Chinese A.

Therefore, in general:

PIS (Eng A/B and/or Chi A/B), which is in between IS and local school, hoping to get the best of the two worlds.

nintendo

shadeslayer 發表於 16-11-7 08:25
In a proper IS, no students are taking English B bar I guess a few exceptional cases.

Just want to share. I happened to know someone that took English B as he took Japanese A as self study class at an international school (not Japanese international school tho). Heard from other parents it is quite common for students from other countries to take English B and then self study their own language.

nintendo

hkparent 發表於 16-11-7 10:57
Therefore, in general:
IS (Eng A, Chi B),

A lot of students are able to handle Eng A + Chi A at ESF.May be not as many as in schools like DSE or SPCC, but not as uncommon as many people want to believe.

nintendo

hkparent 發表於 16-11-7 11:00
PIS (Eng A/B and/or Chi A/B), which is in between IS and local school, hoping to get the best of the ...

Not appropriate to draw that line.
I think DBS, SPCC and RC do not provide English B.

shadeslayer

nintendo 發表於 16-11-7 11:02
Just want to share. I happened to know someone that took English B as he took Japanese A as self st ...

IS students in an International Stream taking English B is definitely a very rare case Because both the teaching language and student language are English.

nintendo

shadeslayer 發表於 16-11-7 11:59
IS students in an International Stream taking English B is definitely a very rare case Because both ...

Not really that rare if certain international school had enough students to start an English B class.

shadeslayer

nintendo 發表於 16-11-7 13:13
Not really that rare if certain international school had enough students to start an English B cla ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 16-11-7 13:36 編輯

then the IS in question is not what I called "Proper" IS.  I would be very skeptical.

nintendo

shadeslayer 發表於 16-11-7 13:35
then the IS in question is not what I called "Proper" IS.  I would be very skeptical.

Which IS is your child in? How much you know about IS? You sure you know all of them that well?
You can have your own definition of "proper IS".
But the school I mentioned is definitely an IS, not PIS, not local IB (like DBS or SPCC), which you always seem to not like anyway..
Not sure what the problem you have as you always seem to like to argue with people about things you definitely do not really know well.
My involvement ends here.

Cara2006

shadeslayer 發表於 16-11-7 11:59
IS students in an International Stream taking English B is definitely a very rare case Because both ...

IS do not only take English speaking kids. IS are schools that take kids that cannot go to local schools (because they do not know chinese). I also met a girl that took English B and Hebrew A (IBDP). Yes, not many of such children but there are definitely more than you think.