IS math 程度

DreamKid

aidan08 發表於 16-9-21 18:12
我本身係一個好典型的文科人，數學由細到大都好差，會考好幾科考得好好都唔及數學科一科竟然及格咁開心。所 ...

我同你既觀察一樣，我都唔覺佢地很淺。我覺得佢地係教適齡嘅嘢。IS好多時都用螺旋式教學法，即係會返轉頭重溫簡單嘅嘢，然後再去教深啲嘅嘢。

fundad

aidan08 發表於 16-9-21 18:12
我本身係一個好典型的文科人，數學由細到大都好差，會考好幾科考得好好都唔及數學科一科竟然及格咁開心。所 ...

Do you mind share with us which ESF primary school your son is studying?  Seems a very good school.

samsam123321

小猴子兒 發表於 16-9-21 20:18
你都sor sor 地，給d EQ出來啦！ESF 係會亂敢樣專門培養小孩嗎？佢地係會看小朋友是否有資優證明及在學術 ...

我自己覺得至少都要考個奧數奬牌才能說數學資優。我覺得igcse 課程走去求其找個高考A的學生都識教, 我家小孩完全自學都拿了個A星。但人人價值觀不同，1000元對一D人來說是貴，對富有人家可能是碎銀。最緊要自己覺得值就可以了。我覺得100元／hr 的學生足夠教igcse maths.ESF數學程度可以係中學分數加減X除都可以錯，也可以yr 7 識calculus.視乎學生興趣

aidan08

fundad 發表於 16-9-21 21:03
Do you mind share with us which ESF primary school your son is studying?  Seems a very good school. ...

My son is in Peak School and I am very satisfied with the school.

hkparent

原帖由 小猴子兒 於 16-09-21 發表
我也是這樣想嘛！就為了學IGCSE專門找個劍橋生來補1千元1個鐘，普通數學科老師就可以勝任，沒有必要大材小 ...

這裏變成補習老師間接宣傳的地方了。一句話：我認為不用補習，我亦認同國際學校的教法。不認同的本地家長，請讓你們的孩上本地學校，不要將補習風氣帶進真正的國際學校。

Radiomama

小猴子兒 發表於 16-9-21 22:41
說得好，既然選擇了ESF 就要相信佢地既教學模式，我兒子現在非常享受學校的生活也不覺得上數學課無聊，反 ...

可喜可賀！

elmostoney

Activehealth,  很同意你的approach.  小朋友有興趣, 為何不幫佢係自己興趣發展?  = 小朋友鍾意跳ballet, 跳多幾堂, 甚至上私人班, 希望將來有機會入物物Academy之類 (我見過, 個女仔都係13/14歲), 大家唔會話佢係補習, 因為呢個唔係學科.  但其實都係異曲同功之妙, 只係unfortunately, 你個仔鍾意的是數, 所以大家認為你係academically pushy. 為何大家不能視之為一種興趣呢?  我覺得呢d都係各取所愛, 我自己唔會, 因我個細路冇呢方面的talent同興趣, 如果佢有, 又想再上一層, 有時真係想搵人傾下問下, then why not?  不明大家reaction 為何咁大.

補習都係睇自己需要.  我個女以前唔多鍾意數, 背乘數表背左2年都唔算熟, 主要係佢冇心.  隨住慢慢大個, 學校都唔等得佢咁多, 我係屋企教佢, 佢又唔聽, 知佢乘數唔掂, 比d drills佢做佢又唔做.  拖左大半年, 最後老師都開口叫我返去真係要同佢做多d, 因為乘數表唔掂, 點除?  我冇哂符, 最後只好的左佢去 Eye Level (E nopi), 佢唔比我教, 只好比人教.  佢而家返左半年, 功課又唔多, 但佢對數的自信心強左, 亦冇咁怕數.  如果我由佢自由發展, 即使學校分組, 都不能將佢分到低2年卦?  佢冇信心, 就越來越怕, 越唔做又越冇信心, vicious cycle. 我唔覺得補習係萬惡, 睇你出發點.  

964000

elmostoney 發表於 16-9-22 11:23
Activehealth,  很同意你的approach.  小朋友有興趣, 為何不幫佢係自己興趣發展?  = 小朋友鍾意跳ballet,  ...

You bring out another important point, 有D小朋友一定要出去比人教

elmostoney

964000, 我而家放棄哂架啦, 教佢物都吵架收場, 無謂. 唯有等佢自己撞多d板, 佢有問題, 我能解答就答, 我都唔會特意去查問佢d功課, 等佢主動搵我.   佢鍾意baking, 以前成日想同我一齊做, 但又唔聽, 咁永遠冇improvement.  佢鍾意咪出去比佢上下堂, 上左幾堂返來, 完全唔同哂, 似模似樣.

唔係個個家長都咁好運, 個小朋友自動自覺, 又或肯聽父母教的.  我深有體會, 我個細仔就完全opposite, 我可自己教都得.  有時小朋友功課上都有困難, 咁可以點?  都要睇個別小朋友性格的, 冇經歷過d咁難教 (其實幾難頂的小朋友), 要話唔補習梗容易, 我呢d係有苦自己知.  我試過教我個女認字, 當時佢4.5歲, 佢有本事學一個字, 一個鐘都學唔識的.  佢唔係有問題個種, 以前比老師懷疑佢ADD是做過test, 完全正常的一個人, 佢就係咁, 做事完全跟自己喜好, 唔鍾意就唔做, 而家大大下好d, 明白起碼攪掂學校.  

Activehealth

elmostoney 發表於 16-9-22 11:23
Activehealth,  很同意你的approach.  小朋友有興趣, 為何不幫佢係自己興趣發展?  = 小朋友鍾意跳ballet,  ...

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Artie

其實每個人能力不同，如果覺得數學難，唔明，家長可以先了解一下佢唔明乜嘢，再大家一齊找一個易明的方式。
學數，有多過一個方式，老師可能用一種兩種方式教，但可以找第三第四種。
小學數學是中學數學的基礎，中學數也未至難到要找 tutor 。
如果小學中學已經要補，大學點算？
小朋友唔明，家長又唔識，大家一起去找答案吧。

如果是資優小朋友，小學已可應付高中數，那就買本 IB Math HL 或 AL 課本比佢。又叻又有天份，自己學啦！既然咁醒，必定可以自學 laplace transform。小女 ( 非資優 ) 當年也在 year 7 自己找書學 matrix。
其實，可以比小朋友多接觸一些非正規課程會教的 topic ，game theory, topology,  都不會在高中教，可以自己去學。
真正資優，如果只是教多 D 教快 D ( 如甚麼小學考 IGCSE )，根本是浪費他資質。
不如譲他多思考，並未非只係計數，有很多 topic 是思考多過計數，資優小朋友會 enjoy。多做正規課程以外的事。

Artie

964000 發表於 16-9-22 11:38
You bring out another important point, 有D小朋友一定要出去比人教

Are there genuine needs? Hmmm.
I have discussed with my kids the needs of tutors, especially for math.
They have both told me that many students that have tutors (those that struggles with math, not the gifted ones that have tutors for enrichments) tend to pay even less attention in classes.

964000

Artie 發表於 16-9-22 13:25
Are there genuine needs? Hmmm.
I have discussed with my kids the needs of tutors, especially for ma ...

At least for swimming, I found I really don't know how to teach my kid and I hired a coach for her at the end. Not sure about academics yet.

Artie

964000 發表於 16-9-22 13:48
At least for swimming, I found I really don't know how to teach my kid and I hired a coach for her  ...

Your example is not a valid comparison. Both ballet dancing and swimming is not regular school curriculum. And not many people own premises that have a swimming pool or dancing room.
For math, everything is supposed to be taught at school. One primary school teacher told me once "We are paid to teach your child. Please leave the teaching to us. You do not need to hire a tutor".I have many times dug through books and internet with my daughter to find "answers" to some of her physics queries. She took IBDP physics and some of the topics I have either not learnt before to have totally forgotten about them. We went through books and even internet website and were able to solve our puzzle.
I can assure you that the curriculum at high school level, especially math and sciences are very "old" knowledge that have been around for years. New theories would not be included in a typical high school math or science curriculum. So you will definitely be able to find an answer to a query.

Activehealth

Artie 發表於 16-9-22 13:25
Are there genuine needs? Hmmm.
I have discussed with my kids the needs of tutors, especially for ma ...

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