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minirat

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-27 11:32
for now, yeah. coz i dont wanna choose York...(i will give up their offer soon)

save and except th ...

I see!  Zenith is not a bad choice.  Good luck to all of us then ;)

晞晞爸b

minirat 發表於 13-2-27 12:05
I see!  Zenith is not a bad choice.  Good luck to all of us then ;)

加油!

BearBearMummy

Actually I think now its time to release our offers. My girl is lucky to have 6 offers out of 7 interviews. I released them and only hold 2 now. I will most likely choose Zenith. I understand it will push parents to make choice but I also think its almost March its time to do so. I paid the book fee last week.

sip594

原帖由 BearBearMummy 於 13-02-27 發表
Actually I think now its time to release our offers. My girl is lucky to have 6 offers out of 7 inte ...

可否分享下，你囡囡有邊6間offer?基於咩原因決定選這兩間?
想參考一下你的分析。謝謝!

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-27 12:20
加油!

Why don't you want to choose York?  Because it's a special K1 offer?

晞晞爸b

mamath 發表於 13-2-28 11:10
Why don't you want to choose York?  Because it's a special K1 offer?

here are the reasonings:- (no disrespect to any York parents, the following are just my personal concerns)
1. half day (york) not full day (zenith) --> my wife and i are both working full time (9am to 11 pm), no one to look after my child except my domestic helper, who i dont want my son to get "too" close with.
2. yes, dont wanna repeat pn unless it is a repeat of pn in kinder like KM LH or Victoria, just not worth repeating it if it is York
3. the attitute of some staffs at York whom I approached and spoken to before makes me feel uncomfortable.

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-28 11:23
here are the reasonings:- (no disrespect to any York parents, the following are just my personal co ...

Thanks for speedy reply.  Could you share more about the whole day pn of Zenith?  I didn't apply for it because of high tuition fee and relatively young history of the school.  Is it a pushy school?  Good in training languages and disciplines?

There are two Zenith accessible to us but I am not sure their track record.  One is in Kowloon Tong, the other in Shatin which will open this summer.

晞晞爸b

mamath 發表於 13-2-28 11:28
Thanks for speedy reply.  Could you share more about the whole day pn of Zenith?  I didn't apply for ...

from my understaning, there is no full day pn in Kowloon Tong Zenith this year (hope i am correct on this point, please correct me if i'm wrong)
my son is currently attending pn full day at yuen long branch since Dec 2012.  He is a "small b" born in late November 2010 and Zenith is one of very few kinder who: 1. offer full day class & 2. consider taking small b (coz most famous KLT kinder would prefer taking Big B for admission)
Anyway, i was lucky that my son enjoys school very much ever since he started attenting Zenith PN.  
He was very calm on the 1st day (1st ever in his life) attending school back on 3rd December 2012 wherein my wife and i was so surprised that he did not cry.  haha...but the 2nd week he did cry for two or three days...but thereafter, he was alright.  

One thing i was quite impressive of Zenith is that, despite it is: 1. very expensive in tuition fee (HK$5800) & 2. people here are saying it is a easy school to get admission (some are saying they would take any kid who attends interview)...anyway, i could not careless on this 2nd argument as long as my kid gets what we paid for (i.e. Net English teacher and PTH teacher), that is what it matters to me.  You know, you have to pay for what you get... that is the rule of the game, and as long as i can still afford it (as long as i still got a job and not get caught by my boss finding my time here typing these words at BK during office hours, ha ha ... just kidding, i operate my own business...) ok, we go too far...

back to school life of full day PN of zenith...i was given to understand that for full day, my son will have 40 minuntes ENG lesson (by NET) in the morning and one PTH lesson in the morning.  Same in the afternoon.  I guess that make up a total of 80 minutes of English lesson per day by NET, which is quite good.

As to my son, he likes to go to school, and you know what, every monring (Monday-Friday), at 7:30am he would already gets up and dress himself (with the assistance of my domestic helper of course)..and all smile on his face and "run" into my bedroom with a smile, yes, a smile, to urge me to take him to school (I drive him to school).  He would sing english songs (ABC...) all the time.  He is also more discipline than he was before he attend Zenith.

overall, my impression is quite good on Zenith.  Hope these information is of some help to you. have a good day!

beebee3721

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-28 11:51
from my understaning, there is no full day pn in Kowloon Tong Zenith this year (hope i am correct on ...

晞晞爸b , 我想請問你小朋友返全日, 習慣嗎? 有否表達過好悶或者想返屋企?  如無意外, 我都會楝 zenith 的上午班, 但因為家僱問題, 我在想是否下半年申請讀全日 (當然未知學校是否接受申請).  謝謝解答.

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-28 11:51
from my understaning, there is no full day pn in Kowloon Tong Zenith this year (hope i am correct o ...

Many thanks for your info.  Same as you, my son is a super small b (Dec!).  It is nice to know that your son enjoys schooling, which I think is the most important.  Half day class is ok to us as long as the class is good.  I can see why you drop the offers of York.  I would do the same if I were you.

I hope Zenith would consider accepting 插班 coz I missed their PN application already.

晞晞爸b

beebee3721 發表於 13-2-28 11:55
晞晞爸b , 我想請問你小朋友返全日, 習慣嗎? 有否表達過好悶或者想返屋企?  如無意外, 我都會楝 zenith 的 ...

仔仔返左3個月(12月插班到依家)(扣埋聖誕.過農曆新年及病假..他病了2次..)實質上返足學大約1個月度
暫時睇來他好喜歡返學..响屋企成日揹住書包要返學..睇來他返得好開心
試過呢兩日我揸車停係校門口幫他開車門時動作慢左少少..他竟然"敲"車窗示意我快D開門他先可以快D落車入校門...呵呵...
可能他學校多野玩(我當初就係唔想他成日黏工人姐姐所以我寧願俾多少少錢他讀全日..)
我果間係元朗...不過我來緊8月已轉他出九龍塘讀K1全日
但近排我老婆話堅持要叫仔仔留係元朗讀K1因為驚他換校舍轉環境唔適應WOR.
我都考慮緊...

仔仔算好好彩..他的兩個班主任(上午下午各一個)都好有愛心....SO FAR 讀書讀得幾開心
課程都幾深...不過我唔太CARE..最緊要他鐘意返學...學群體生活學規矩及自理..點都好過快過成日係屋企齋對住工人姐姐..講白D..咪俾錢學校教仔囉...(我兩公婆日日返工搏命搵錢都係為左俾更加好既仔仔..我相信個個父母都會係咁)

以上係我既情況..你自己要考慮你自己既情況(個個人都唔同)...我既只可以做為參考...希望你小朋友都搵到一間他鐘意返學既幼稚園

晞晞爸b

mamath 發表於 13-2-28 12:09
Many thanks for your info.  Same as you, my son is a super small b (Dec!).  It is nice to know that  ...

you are always welcome!

haha...we have the same situation...at the begining, my wife was quite oppose to my idea of putting him to full day as she worries that he is just 2 years old he may be too tire to attend such a long school whole day session...guess what, my wife even blamed me by saying i am too cruel by putting him full day....then these two months after seeing my son's improvement, my wife said to me that she did appreciate my decision for the full day class..i think for many parents here who is undecided to whether put your kid to full day class, i understand your worries.  but my cicumstance is quite different as both my wife and i have to work full day (9am to 11pm)..there is just no one except my domestic helper  (Indo) at home to take care of my son (she does not speak english, no cantonese, just very limited mandarin, i dont know why i hired her at the very first place...i must be dumb)  anyway, i was force to put my son to full day class in light of my situation.....

i guess there is no deadline for applying Zenith, you can always submit your application form...but i did notice that this year, there are so many applicants which make it harder to get in...you should submit as soon as you can if you are still interested in this school.

One other thing, i am quite with you on your point as to the KLT branch is quite new and their track record for good Primary school is still one of my concern (cope with their expensive tuition fees).  so, to be honest, i will still try to apply other kinder....

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-28 12:24
you are always welcome!

haha...we have the same situation...at the begining, my wife was quite opp ...

I think we should exchange ideas more often as our thoughts are quite close.

I am not opposed to the idea of full day PN.  Same as you, I wish him to be trained to be independent and disciplined while enjoying going to school.  I have actually managed to put him in PN full day class in Kowloon Tong Funful in Jan 2014.  Since he's a small b, I do not have much choice.  And I believe that traditional schools can teach discipline and independence better (hope I am right).  And I personally do not value PTH teaching at this early stage (Can + english are enough).

Also, we have got york K1 offer in Aug 2014 (unlike you we chose normal K1 for him).  That's why I asked your reason for staying in Zenith.  Your son's experience is very valuable to me and honestly, I would hope to reserve a flexibility like you.

Just that my concern is Zenith is relatively new.  Having NET and PTH teachers do not sufficiently justify high tuition to me without good teaching quality.   

晞晞爸b

mamath 發表於 13-2-28 12:33
I think we should exchange ideas more often as our thoughts are quite close.

I am not opposed to th ...

yes, i could not agree with you more.

i guess your son is one year younger than my son...

it is quite funny to me that once i did value York as my top priority school (having consider small b's chance in getting into KV KM LH..etc those famous kinder is so slim)...and guess what, York is acutally the first kinder who offered a place to my son back then (Head Starter PN)... i was so joyful that day when i received offer from York....however, i was told by york that they would not offer any 插班 to my son and i have to wait til August 2013 to put him to PN HEAD STARTER class.  That motivates me to start searching for PN who do offer 插班 for small b.. and i came up with offers from St.Lorraine..太子明慧 and Zenith...i turn down offers from St.Lorraine..太子明慧 since Zenith offered full day class to my son.  To be honest, Zenith was not even on my favorite list of kinder at the time....but on the day of interview, when my son attended Zenith, he saw the playground and seemed to be obsessed by the school...that's one of the reason i decided to put him to Zenith....the environment....he likes it even in the interview stage....i guess that makes him enjoying going to school...

given the fact that my son is enjoying his school life at Zenith, it is quite strange feeling, if you were in my shoes to look back at York and start to wonder whether is it worth to repeat pn this coming August at York....

You still have time to consider your choice of York or Zenith at this early stage... my two cents is that, you may try to apply more kinder at the meantime, try your luck to see if any of LH KM SC Victoria (sorry, i dont know if these kinder are on your list..)...for me, if my son is lucky enough to get an offer from any one of these kinder..i will have no hesitation....coz the tuition fee just cannot justify itself when there is no good track record of P1.

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-28 12:49
yes, i could not agree with you more.

i guess your son is one year younger than my son...

Maybe we will meet in the interviews at LH, St Cat, Victoria, etc. this summer :)

So I guess you will be applying K1 for your son for admission to 2014?  Ur son is one year older than mine and so he should be able to apply K1 as a big b?  Mine can apply for PN and K1 also, but i guess his chance in pn is bigger.

晞晞爸b

mamath 發表於 13-2-28 14:16
Maybe we will meet in the interviews at LH, St Cat, Victoria, etc. this summer :)

So I guess you wi ...

yes.
that raises another frequent discussed and constant debated issues for small b, i.e. whether to be a small b in K1 or to wait and become a big b for the year after..

my observation from other parents who advises me are that there is no need to purposely/intentionally put your child as a big b.  of course there is always pros and cons being a big b, and vice versa.

My personal experience, same as you, i have already arranged my son to attend both PN and K1 interview (i guess that is one of "benefit" for small b, you could choose to be a big b or small b and apply both, but to be honest, the chance of getting accepted as a small b is quite slim and rare)

my son is lucky to also received a K1 offer from Tack Ching, that is the only one K1 offer my son gets (being a small b).. i found it difficult to compete with big b in a normal interview...however, i also find it there is no advantage being a big b in an interview (my son attended HKPS PN interview as a big b and got rejected)..i see there is no real advantage of being a big b in that case...the thing is, you never know what are the criteria a school assess your interview, and you never know how they come to make up the decision when giving out offers, like i said before, my son's interview at Tack Ching, being a small b, he was messing around and disturbing another child sat beside him and ended up he got offer for K1 this coming August...

Another thing is that, to be a small b for your son, that means your son will compete with "Dragon B", the competition is even more keen...

One other thing, i am a believer of child's potential.  i think different child has different potential and you never know how he/she will perform and observe.  Never limit or disrupt a child's learning if he/she is able to keep up the pace, i am against the idea of intentionally being a big b, unless my son is a slow learner...

Also, since my son already is 插班 PN now, there is no point to repeat pn as PN is more of training of discipline rather than academic.  If my son really can not keep pace with bigger b in his year, i would rather repeat K1 or K2 where there are more academic studies to catch up with.

again, these are my own situation, may not apply in your case.

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-28 14:39
yes.
that raises another frequent discussed and constant debated issues for small b, i.e. whether t ...

Haha indeed small or big b is a topic being discussed under a separate thread i opened.

My husband has the same view as you.  While I agree that small b has got their potentials also, I can see that there's really a time difference here.  For our cases, boys are slower in language development and presentation by development.  I observe that my son is not a slow learner but there are things that you cannot ask for until he is mature enough to do so.  I cannot imagine how he can recognise colours, shapes etc. in the K1 interviews this summer which i am given to understand is the key things to test on.   And i am very against the idea of training kids for interviews.  So, I will only let him try and treat it as a mock up unless we are truly lucky to get accepted to good schools.

Very much agree to your point that we never know the schools' assessments.   It is indeed very tiring for parents and kids at this young stage to be placed for such unhealthy competition.  I hope I can hold on up my beliefs and not to push me so hard on academic.  

晞晞爸b

mamath 發表於 13-2-28 16:18
Haha indeed small or big b is a topic being discussed under a separate thread i opened.

My husband ...

同意!

我仔仔3個月前同3個月後分別好大...有D野時間未到無得強求
我仔到現在都仲講緊BB話...我都唯有繼續等待終有一日佢識得講野...

至於面試..我次次都順其自然..唔會去刻意去TRAIN佢..更唔會去參加面試訓練班
因為我仔仔好有自己個性...逼唔到佢..唔鐘意佢點都唔做
試過上個月去IN聖公會K1...一入去佢見到老師已經擰埋一邊身唔睬老師...(試想..如果我逼佢去面試班到時真正面試時佢玩野既話..咪白費心機?倒不如順其自然..當去玩下見識下.唔好俾壓力佢反而會好D掛)

我來緊星期六有VICTORIA & KM Interview...LH下星期IN
全部都係IN PN..
我仔仔今次以超大B身份去IN...我唔覺得有任何優勢..因為佢未識講野(男仔超慢)..預左又衰硬
唔緊要..我此行目的5最主要係要驗收佢GROUP IN既結果
(之前仔仔曾參加某幼稚園既 playgroup 無奈俾鬼婆嚇親--鬼婆講野大大聲又惡..仔仔自此一返親Playgroup 及一聽到音樂跳舞必喊)
所以舊年馮親有group in 既面試(victoria K1, LH K1, HKPS PN) 全部衰晒..一放音樂即喊...

我近排問過Zenith 仔仔NET班主任(鬼佬)..佢話仔仔現在完全好投入放音樂及跳舞(我半信半疑)
呢個星期六及下個星期Victoria KM LH 呢3間Interview 全部都係GROUP IN型式...好快知道亞仔到時是否已經克服呢個心魔...

BearBearMummy

原帖由 sip594 於 13-02-27 發表
可否分享下，你囡囡有邊6間offer?基於咩原因決定選這兩間?
想參考一下你的分析。謝謝!



  ...

My girl is a small bb. Interviewed 7 got 6 offers from Think, Funful, Zenith, Baptist Oasis, Manhabit, York (k1 2014) all in klt. And coming st johannes interview. I chose Zenith as I like the location, new environment, good Eng Pth environment, cooked snack rather than biscuit, positive comments from current parents. And most importantly, both me and my girl love it. Its a school fits my expectation. Personal choice I believe in suitability rather than fame.

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-2-28 17:07
同意!

我仔仔3個月前同3個月後分別好大...有D野時間未到無得強求

My son also got scary when he first attended playgroup but he adapted well since, guess mainly because my mum brought him out ro crowded places more frequently afterwards.

Yes, boys' development is relatively slow at the begining.  Since you've got a good school to live with, no stress for the upcoming interviews!  Good luck, and if you don't mind, pls share your experience after the interviews la.