直資學校用納稅人的錢攪世襲教育,大家點睇?

im_csb

我個人就覺得如果覺得學校的criteria 有問題, 不一定要選擇佢, 好似高主教咁, 講明俾優先取錄大仔, 我覺得佢係歧視, 不是公平, 我是不會幫我個仔報, 我不認同佢的理念, 其實大家如果覺得不認同學校的制度, 可以不報, fair game.

silvia_ng

原帖由 ma90a31 於 10-11-1 22:56 發表
我想大家都很清楚他是指哪一間...
但你認為某些直資學校對外說沒有世襲分就就一定沒有嗎??
你真的相信??
請恕我講一句...別那麼天真...

以我所知的有一間, 真係唔會收世襲, interview唔得就bye bye! 我識一個家長, 大果兩個係入面讀, 第三個去考都考唔到。very fair!

ma90a31

所以呀!!就算是spcc,dbs 或dgs等..都是要看面試的表現,如果正在就讀的哥哥姐姐又讀的不理想,我想校長就算想要收都會考慮的. 我認為非常公平.
因為學校並沒有講我是100% 世襲生全收..!!
如果妳有接觸這些學校的家長,那麼你就會知道真的有發生過就算兄姐正在就讀的還是沒機會.....

直資學校是沒有一間可以100%給你世襲位的.但是官津卻不是...不是嗎???

原帖由 silvia_ng 於 10-11-1 23:09 發表


以我所知的有一間, 真係唔會收世襲, interview唔得就bye bye! 我識一個家長, 大果兩個係入面讀, 第三個去考都考唔到。very fair!

[ 本帖最後由 ma90a31 於 10-11-1 23:20 編輯 ]

ma90a31

沒錯....既然要進入這個制度,及選擇直資學校報名面試,就已經白紙黑字都清楚各間直資學校的收生標準,怎能在遊戲就快結束之前大喊不公平而定出如此的標題來危言聳聽呢?? 如果您是在面試機制之前就已開始討論這點,那麼我絕對支持您....可是在遊戲就快結果之前,才喊不公平,那似乎是有點....................

原帖由 im_csb 於 10-11-1 23:06 發表
我個人就覺得如果覺得學校的criteria 有問題, 不一定要選擇佢, 好似高主教咁, 講明俾優先取錄大仔, 我覺得佢係歧視, 不是公平, 我是不會幫我個仔報, 我不認同佢的理念, 其實大家如果覺得不認同學校的制度, 可以不報, ...

Sindy

原帖由 ma90a31 於 10-11-1 23:15 發表
所以呀!!就算是spcc,dbs 或dgs等..都是要看面試的表現,如果正在就讀的哥哥姐姐又讀的不理想,我想校長就算想要收都會考慮的. 我認為非常公平.
因為學校並沒有講我是100% 世襲生全收..!!
如果妳有接觸這些學校的家長, ...

官津都係計分.....如果淨係得畢業20分,你都咪話係收梗,亦都係靠彩數,所以你話官津100%係世襲係錯誤既說法... 仲有聖保羅男女小學,佢地話明70%(唔係好記得個百分比,大概啦下)係比自己友,你又唔講,似乎有D斷章取義.... 你以為DGS之類既學校,無果D考得普通,但有家姐係度讀,比面收埋阿妹既例子咩?

YUWEI

官津係...現在有兄姐讀緊既係必收生...
你唔知咩????????????????????????????
依家係講理d..

我小朋友幼稚園都有家長係有關係但冇收到spcc信wor

我覺得係有人斷章取義就真...

原帖由 Sindy 於 10-11-2 00:49 發表



官津都係計分.....如果淨係得畢業20分,你都咪話係收梗,亦都係靠彩數,所以你話官津100%係世襲係錯誤既說法... 仲有聖保羅男女小學,佢地話明70%(唔係好記得個百分比,大概啦下)係比自己友,你又唔講,似乎有D斷章取義. ...

[ 本帖最後由 YUWEI 於 10-11-2 01:00 編輯 ]

YUWEI

我認為就算妳覺得普通.但係如果出來同其他間學校學生比,都係優秀好多...如果唔係,就唔會大把人想去考喇!!

學校決定收唔收小朋友,有好多因素係裡面,我覺得之前d家長講既非常有道理, li 個制度冇什麼公唔公平,如果覺得唔公平可以唔玩,依家玩到一半,就鬧人唔fair...我都覺得里種家長好差....

講真,如果唔考就可以入到間非常好既官津學校,有邊個想去面試??  

原帖由 Sindy 於 10-11-2 00:49 發表



你以為DGS之類既學校,無果D考得普通,但有家姐係度讀,比面收埋阿妹既例子咩?

motherotk

Support your argument!!

原帖由 Zata 於 10-11-1 21:53 發表
這是針對直資嗎？

如果家長既不是 old 什麼也沒宗教，難道選擇直資也不能嗎

我太婆不是old girl，所以我們世世代代也不…

基本法話香港有宗教自由，點解要分“非我族類”那5分影響深遠… ...

motherotk

"我個人就覺得如果覺得學校的criteria 有問題, 不一定要選擇佢, 好似高主教咁, 講明俾優先取錄大仔, 我覺得佢係歧視, 不是公平, ."

Fair game??

原帖由 im_csb 於 10-11-1 23:06 發表
我個人就覺得如果覺得學校的criteria 有問題, 不一定要選擇佢, 好似高主教咁, 講明俾優先取錄大仔, 我覺得佢係歧視, 不是公平, 我是不會幫我個仔報, 我不認同佢的理念, 其實大家如果覺得不認同學校的制度, 可以不報, ...

thomasha

What does fairness mean to you?  What are your suggestions on achieving fairness?

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 01:51 發表
"我個人就覺得如果覺得學校的criteria 有問題, 不一定要選擇佢, 好似高主教咁, 講明俾優先取錄大仔, 我覺得佢係歧視, 不是公平, ."

Fair game??

motherotk

Ask the person write this statement:

"我覺得佢係歧視, 不是公平, ."

原帖由 thomasha 於 10-11-2 02:01 發表
What does fairness mean to you?  What are your suggestions on achieving fairness?

thomasha

I don't recall your quoted statement (might have missed it)...I just saw "fair game" from your post, so I asked you those questions, and your opinion counts. :)

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 02:04 發表
Ask the person write this statement:

"我覺得佢係歧視, 不是公平, ."

motherotk

Thanks..

For me there is no absolute fairness. A policy addressing variations, not only accessible to "certain group of people" is relatively more fair system. In HK, the P1 application system obviously is only accessible to "certain groups" - then I think this is not accessbile to include kid's variations...The system or the policy need to address equal access and opportunities for all kids..

However, if there is gender bias, religious bias, achievement bias, family status bias in the system, then some of the kids have been from the very begining been excluded from the system automatically...

The P1 admission guideline I think is to make sure the process of P1 application is accessible to all regardless of developmental variation and family status , but the EDB allow these kinds of "discrimination" (as said by others in this thread) and keep silence....

I will write to EDB, of course...

原帖由 thomasha 於 10-11-2 02:11 發表
I don't recall your quoted statement (might have missed it)...I just saw "fair game" from your post, so I asked you those questions, and your opinion counts. :)

traeh

聖保羅男女係最多收70%有關係人士, 當中包埋兄姊在學, 父母係舊生或老師校董校工等等, 而校長好似今年briefing話, 都唔係收足七成, 只係五至六成。當中細佬妹肯定唔係必收, 事實上年年都有好多個細佬妹唔收, 舊生仔女一樣好多都唔收, 我估淨係校董子女會有少少勝算。因為學校係要收佢想收嘅人, 而唔一定係有關係人士, 否則點keep住整體成績。除咗呢間, 仲有好幾間有咁情況。

原帖由 Sindy 於 10-11-2 00:49 發表
官津都係計分.....如果淨係得畢業20分,你都咪話係收梗,亦都係靠彩數,所以你話官津100%係世襲係錯誤既說法... 仲有聖保羅男女小學,佢地話明70%(唔係好記得個百分比,大概啦下)係比自己友,你又唔講,似乎有D斷章取義. ...

fotk

I heard the following stories from the mothers, not St Paul -ed, other DSS school and public subvented schools:

example 1) One DSS school- the child has been rejected, but the mother asked a "socially famous celebrity" to write a letter for review of the application, the child was accepted after a week she sent out the supporting letter.

example 2) One subvented school - the priests (father or brother) will reserve certain seats for their connections. One mother has failed in the lucky draw and she told me that she was sure she will get the seats from this school..start to use your connections now, mothers and fathers and get close to some one that are useful to you.....then.. you can....

原帖由 traeh 於 10-11-2 07:52 發表
聖保羅男女係最多收70%有關係人士, 當中包埋兄姊在學, 父母係舊生或老師校董校工等等, 而校長好似今年briefing話, 都唔係收足七成, 只係五至六成。當中細佬妹肯定唔係必收, 事實上年年都有好多個細佬妹唔收, 舊生仔 ... [/quote]

motherotk

I object the religious marks...I object the parents' marks or connection marks...

That policy has excluded kids from the very begining from the system of education opportunities....

原帖由 smile2003 於 10-11-2 11:20 發表
basically i have no objection on this " 有兄姐讀緊就必入既制度", 因為方便2個小朋友互相照顧.

BUT strongly oppose on 父母係舊生有分".  

hui3328

有沒人家長試過向平等機會委員委投設現行官津校的小一入學計分準則不公平, 主要是校友分及宗教分?

大家認為平等機會委員會是否會受理, 向教署施加壓力?

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 11:26 發表
I object the religious marks...I object the parents' marks or connection marks...

That policy has excluded kids from the very begining from the system of education opportunities....

CHP

仲有首名子女果5分呢...扣埋佢啦!  攪到咁大件事....一定大混亂!

原帖由 hui3328 於 10-11-2 11:55 發表
有沒人家長試過向平等機會委員委投設現行官津校的小一入學計分準則不公平, 主要是校友分及宗教分?

大家認為平等機會委員會是否會受理, 向教署施加壓力?

...

traeh

好多objections，咁有無suggestion？

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 11:26 發表
I object the religious marks...I object the parents' marks or connection marks...

That policy has excluded kids from the very begining from the system of education opportunities....