Harrow International

Cara2006

原帖由 thankful 於 09-8-31 19:09 發表
What makes you think that I am happy to hear your kids are in a band 3 school.  Which school your kids go to doesn't affect me.  Those are your kids (thank God!), not mine!  It's just that I think eve ...

When ESF's results are poor, that is poor.
Whether my kids are in GSIS, CIS, or even they are in ESF, does not have any effect with the percentage of 70% university admission.
By telling you which school my children are going to, the percentage will not jump to 90% or drop to 50%. Do not divert the attention to which school my children are going to. Even if I am telling you, you might as well say I am lying. So what is the point? I think parents should stick to "FACTS": 70% university admission and you still think this is good?

Cara2006

There is no need for me to "disclose" which school my children are in.
What ever I will tell you, you will accuse me for lying.
BTW, which school your children are in?
May be YOU would want to tell us.

Cara2006

原帖由 thankful 於 09-8-31 19:23 發表
Mine are in GSIS.  How about yours?

Good, this is one of the best schools.
Mine are in SIS.

eaymom

I agree with thankful.  Every parents have their own reason to choose the school for their kids.  I personally know parents that turn down GSIS, CIS, SIS, ISF, FIS for ESF.  Each of them have their reasons and faith in the system and I don't think they are stupid.

ESF is a non-selective and I honestly think that it is not fair to compare with other selective schools such as GSIS.  Statistics are sometimes misleading.  

I have seen great ESF students and terrible SIS and CIS students (trust me,  I did).  But I won't make judgement on the schools based on what I saw.  

The forum is meant to be a friendly exchange of experience between parents and is not meant for member to exert overly personal view that sometimes can be offensive to others.

There is really no point to say one school is better than the other.   I think in some way ESF was very forward looking as they were the first few to change to IB  while it took quite a number of years before GSIS  (unwillingly) decided to change.  

Just to be clear, I am not a ESF parents so no bias here.

iamfine

I can't remember who said it but can't agree more - losers look for the "best" school and the wiser look for the "good enough" schools.

Cara2006

原帖由 thankful 於 09-8-31 19:35 發表
Why do you attack ESF all the time?  What benefit do you get from it?  

Attack?
I am referring to the figure someone posted: 70% university admittance.
And commented that it is definitely not good or acceptable.

What kind of school is this with a merely 70% university admittance?
I am not talking about Harvard business school, or HKU medical school. I am only talking about getting into any university, not the top ones.
May be just some very average U in the US or Canada. Or unpopular schools (departments) in local univerisites.
But 30% of the students cannot even get to that part?
My point is 70% is definitely not acceptable.
If you tell me that HKIS or GSIS is also producing this 70% rate, I would have said the same thing.

Cara2006

原帖由 eaymom 於 09-9-1 00:40 發表
ESF is a non-selective and I honestly think that it is not fair to compare with other selective schools such as GSIS.  Statistics are sometimes misleading.   

We all agree that ESF is not exactly selective. But I was also not selective when I talked about the university admittance.
Getting into Princeton and Oxford is of course not easy, but just getting into a university is not exactly hard. There are lots of "average" universities that do not ask for high grades.
Yet 30% of the students get nothing?
Is that a bit quite unbelievable?

Cara2006

原帖由 thankful 於 09-9-1 12:03 發表
Acceptable or not depends on:-
(1) Whether the 70% figure is correct or not.
(2) Assuming the figure is correct, what happens to the other 30%?  
(3) Whether your own kid is in the 70% category or the ...

I do agree that there a lot of factors that affect the figure.
But unfortunately, numbers or figures are clear quantifiers, which parents would always look at.

iamfine

原帖由 thankful 於 09-9-1 11:47 發表

Reximon,

iamfine的金句又點及得你的金句好呀. 你的金句簡直可以全面反映你所講的一切

廢話!


你的金句在這裡:-
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2144686&page=9#pid32258221


仲有, 你 ...

Hi Thankful,

Long time no talk.  I knew I shouldn't have followed your posts.  Your spoiled my mood for lunch at Caviar Kaspla!

[ 本帖最後由 iamfine 於 09-9-1 12:48 編輯 ]

edea

有時候收到一些舉報, 再看家長的回應實在有點無奈.

debate是好事, 但變成侮辱對方就不是好事了.

只想說, 就算再有point, 也應該用友善態度去討論, 別忘了一個人的態度也反映了他的修養. 我們教孩子, 成績重要, 品德都重要, 希望家長們都共勉之.

edea

eaymom

Can't agree more with edea.

[ 本帖最後由 eaymom 於 09-9-1 23:39 編輯 ]

matthewdad

Back to the discussion on Harrow...
The schools in Beijing and Bangkok are become very rich people club and extremely difficult to get in and no one really particular care on the acedemic result..this is what we called "blue blood" school...