有沒有小朋友4歲開始學琴?歡迎大家入來分享一下~~

馬媽媽

My daughter practises for about 30 minutes nearly everyday for 4 pieces of songs (pre-grade 1). Each song, I request her to play for five times. If five times are OK, then next songs. If have some mistakes, I will request her to repeat that particular portions for five more times. Usually, after these five times, she will play well for that portion. The above procedures will repeat for every song, every day!!

But my daughter always does not stand the fingers well. What method can be used?

Anyone can share the details of the practices methods!!

原文章由 concerttime 於 08-4-2 08:51 發表
wah 原來是高手
我都唔平坦呀, 我到好大個,入左大學讀音樂跟左大師學琴同目弟多d書, 先識點樣有效咁練琴, 先無咁辛苦
上次考LT前2個月前發覺programme唔夠長, 臨時加一首 都背得切, 俾着以前的我要練足成年!
只嘆小 ...

Radiomama

呢d情況好普遍，希望在明天!  我個仔第一堂ok，第二堂就不專心，而且因為在家中學琴，是他地頭，仲跩!
您地用緊果本書算係old fashioned，黑白色，d公仔又唔靚，不如同老師商量用alfred  or bastien 的書，是bk呢度其他媽媽介紹的，真係唔錯，尤其for幼兒!

原文章由 feifei614 於 08-4-1 22:40 發表
各位好呀,呀仔佢又係4歲學緊琴,上左第一堂好唔專心!
希望佢下一堂會好d啦!係呢請問大家用緊邊本書?
我地用緊John Thompson's Easiest Piano Course 1
請問邊本書for 4歲會比較好呢? ...

jena2468

我個女鍾意彈, 但係唔鍾意練, 佢話會好悶, 而且佢會有時比情緒, 精神影響, 我唔想佢係太大壓迫力下去學, 所以同老師有默契比佢慢慢黎, 打好基礎好過係壓迫下打壓佢嘅自發性 ! 我個老師話過小朋友係GRADE 2 之前都會比較容易出現類似我個女呢種情況, 不過, 過左GRADE 2 會定d, 同埋自發性大d !

[ 本文章最後由 jena2468 於 08-4-2 10:11 編輯 ]

YanYan0116

我個女係5歲開始學, 學咗2年, e + grade 2, 頭一年佢每次練琴, 每本書都係由第一頁開始練, 好多歌仔都識背,  所以當時進度幾好, 但近大半年, 開始唔鍾意練琴, 但佢係鍾意鋼琴, 有次仲問我點解佢細個時要逼佢學琴, 有時又話想轉學長笛, 小提琴, 我話要考咗鋼琴grade 4先, 佢就開始講數啦 grade 3啦.......

我咪氹佢學琴可以令到佢計數叻d.

其實如果我陪亞女練, 佢肯正經完成, 我都心滿意足啦.

因為想亞女學得成鋼琴, 我都學埋一份, 已經學了年多, 有時d歌佢學先就會批評我彈得唔好, 我練琴時, 佢又要我比佢練先.

[ 本文章最後由 YanYan0116 於 08-4-2 11:29 編輯 ]

pollychu43

Dear YanYan 0116

其實小朋友學琴, 佢地有時真係會覺得悶.
你可以找d兒歌的鋼琴譜比佢彈下. eg. 多拉a夢, 麥嘜,
吸引下佢又唱又彈.

休息的時候都可以開音樂比佢聽.
小朋友聽過的音樂,當佢彈番的時間. 吸收能力會特別快.

你都好叻. 陪小朋友一起學琴,做一個好榜樣
努力ar...

原文章由 YanYan0116 於 08-4-2 11:26 發表
我個女係5歲開始學, 學咗2年, e + grade 2, 頭一年佢每次練琴, 每本書都係由第一頁開始練, 好多歌仔都識背,  所以當時進度幾好, 但近大半年, 開始唔鍾意練琴, 但佢係鍾意鋼琴, 有次仲問我點解佢細個時要逼佢學琴, 有 ...

pollychu43

Dear Feifei 614


好多家長都會問, 點解個仔同其他人用的琴書唔同..其實個個老師都有佢地自己的一套書

John Thompson's Easiest Piano Course 1 - 我自己無用這套書, 因為歌曲比較悶.

小朋友上堂學琴, 只係 CDE, 佢地一定會好悶..比d樂理練習比佢地做下.

我用建議用:

Alfred's Basic Piano Prep Course - Lesson Book Level  

or

Bastien Piano Methods - Piano for the young Beginner

幼兒樂理練習 1. (如果係6歲以下,可以買本幼兒樂理既練習比佢做,貼下貼子等佢地上堂可以多d樂趣同埋有耐性d)  

原文章由 feifei614 於 08-4-1 22:40 發表
各位好呀,呀仔佢又係4歲學緊琴,上左第一堂好唔專心!
希望佢下一堂會好d啦!係呢請問大家用緊邊本書?
我地用緊John Thompson's Easiest Piano Course 1
請問邊本書for 4歲會比較好呢? ...

concerttime

oh Alfred.... Parson train 老師時是用Alfred Basic train 的...

不過如果用Alfred, 要用Alfred Premier, 不要用Alfred Basics了
Alfred Premier is Alfred publishing從新改良的Method book, editor 加入了好出名的Mather Mier (我也好喜歡她)讀譜的approach更好, ｄ歌更加好聽, ear training 和 theory 合併了, 可以買少一本.

用method book 的好處是它可以用不同的方向去灌輸一個concept, 小朋友會明白得好D, 好的method book+懂得好好利用的話　效果會好好.

Alfred Premier要在Tomlee 才有得賣 Parsons 只賣Alfred Basics.

原文章由 Radiomama 於 08-4-2 09:51 發表
呢d情況好普遍，希望在明天!  我個仔第一堂ok，第二堂就不專心，而且因為在家中學琴，是他地頭，仲跩!
您地用緊果本書算係old fashioned，黑白色，d公仔又唔靚，不如同老師商量用alfred  or bastien 的書，是bk呢度其他媽媽介紹的，真係 ...

lsmtkc

原文章由 kiss'bb 於 08-4-1 16:22 發表
我都覺得要搵一個懂得教幼兒鋼琴經驗既老師,一d都唔容易!

聽朋友講之前搵個有演奏級的老師教,但佢唔識點教咁細個既小朋友! 結果小朋友上左一堂就唔肯上!

...

我覺得最重要是個小朋友同老師夾得來,因為教小朋友一定要有愛心和耐性,我小朋友4歲半開始學琴,是他主動要學的.到現在9歲半,以考了5級琴和樂理.今年報了考6級.從來無轉過老師,在學琴過程,他從未講過唔想學,唔練琴就會講,但只要我話講比老師聽或叫他以後唔好學,他就回乖乖地走去練琴,主要原因除了他喜歡音樂外,最主要是仔仔十分喜歡這位老師, 除了彈指定的琴書外,老師又會教他彈其他歌曲,如叮噹,麥兜,童話,聖誕歌,生日歌,大長今,世上只有等等,只要你乖,你叫老師教甚麼歌都得.老師又會鼓勵他參加多些公開比賽和表演,增加他的自信心.有是又會送貼紙比佢,又會同佢分享學校生活,仔仔最開心就是比老師讚.所以找到一個好老師是和仔仔夾得來是最重要的.
你的小朋友剛起步,慢慢培育他愛上音樂啦,希望妳找到個夾你小朋友的老師啦.

pollychu43

Dear Concertime

多謝建議, 我係US的時候 Premier Piano Course 係好多小朋友用..比較普遍.. 而香港 Tom Lee 都唔係咁多分行可以買到.

我都好仲意 Premier Piano Course 我之前有學生係US都係用個premier piano !

Alfred Premier is Alfred publishing從新改良的Method book多左d野我都有睇過. 歌仔多左唔同左.

Concertime 我地大家可以交流下..... thanks

原文章由 concerttime 於 08-4-2 12:15 發表
oh Alfred.... Parson train 老師時是用Alfred Basic train 的...

不過如果用Alfred, 要用Alfred Premier, 不要用Alfred Basics了
Alfred Premier is Alfred publishing從新改良的Method book, editor 加入了好出名 ...

concerttime

How old is your child?
about finger that cannot stand well, There are exercise that I do with my 4 year old students. but it is hard to tell in words.
But I will suggest to go back to do the 5 finger exercise. and insist on good posture. if you don't fix it purposely, it will be like that forever.

One day I saw a teenage boy, claimed to be grade 5, and played everything with collapsed hand... and i was with my eyes wide opened.

So, treat it as top first priority in every day practice.

原文章由 馬媽媽 於 08-4-2 09:38 發表
My daughter practises for about 30 minutes nearly everyday for 4 pieces of songs (pre-grade 1). Each song, I request her to play for five times. If five times are OK, then next songs. If have some mis ...

馬媽媽

My daughter is 5.5 years old and has learnt for piano around 1.5 years. Her fingers are much better now. But left hand is worse than right hand. Sometimes, the fingers will collapse if she does not put them properly intentionally. Then I will remind her to stand up again. Can you tell me your methods?

By the way, she is practising a dozen a day (blue one). Is it helpful?

原文章由 concerttime 於 08-4-2 12:41 發表
How old is your child?
about finger that cannot stand well, There are exercise that I do with my 4 year old students. but it is hard to tell in words.
But I will suggest to go back to do the 5 finger ...

[ 本文章最後由 馬媽媽 於 08-4-2 14:02 編輯 ]

pollychu43

家長好多時都會問的手型問題 :

手型：先把手自然下垂，然後小心的保持手下垂時的形狀並擡起來放在琴鍵上，這就是彈琴要求的手型。

也就是說彈琴的手型就是要把手處於最隨便、最自然的狀態。而這時的手型，也符合手心空的、手腕平的、手指能立住的手型要求，要注意的是，不要把五個手指分別放在五個琴鍵上。因為彈琴的狀態就是保持自然的狀態，在彈琴的過程中，無論多難的樂曲，多複雜的譜例、多大的跨度，都要看作是對自然狀態的一種考驗。

演奏的主要任務就是要保持手的自然狀態不變。如果學生的手比較大，放在琴鍵上自然就是五個琴鍵的位置，不用特別要求。如果學生的手比較小，而非要將手指分給五個琴鍵，就必然造成手的僵硬。結果是沒開始彈琴手就已經先僵硬了，這等於是人為的給彈琴製造障礙。而且如果保持手的自然狀態，就可以讓手指隨著重心的方向落鍵，就不存在重心移動的問題。實際上重心移動的本身就是要手找到最自然的狀態

LikLik

hi,

我個仔係用John Thompson's Easiest Piano同step by step book 1, 見咁多人都講Alfred 同 Bastien好d, 咁我應唔應該同老師講想轉書? 會唔會唔係太好?   

原文章由 pollychu43 於 08-4-2 12:06 發表
Dear Feifei 614


好多家長都會問, 點解個仔同其他人用的琴書唔同..其實個個老師都有佢地自己的一套書

John Thompson's Easiest Piano Course 1 - 我自己無用這套書, 因為歌曲比較悶.

小朋友上堂學琴, 只係 CDE, 佢地一定會好悶..比d樂理練習比佢地做下.

我用建議用:

Alfred's Basic Piano Prep Course - Lesson Book Level  

or

Bastien Piano Methods - Piano for the young Beginner

幼兒樂理練習 1. (如果係6歲以下,可以買本幼兒樂理既練習比佢做,貼下貼子等佢地上堂可以多d樂趣同埋有耐性d)  

concerttime

hmm... one of the off the piano activity is, take a sponge like thing, pretend you are making cookies together, and we use our finger to press the chocolate chips into the cookie. Demonstrate, observe and remind the firm hand shape. Repeat with each finger.

when practice on the piano, start with something easy with the good hand shape. otherwise, their mind is busy with catering other technical aspect and will neglect it easily.

I personally do not use A dozen a day. It is good that every piece is short and focus on one technique. As long as you can catch the essense of each piece, then that is fine. I do not use it because it is not musical. I like "Technique is fun" better, as it train student both musically and technically.

原文章由 馬媽媽 於 08-4-2 14:00 發表
My daughter is 5.5 years old and has learnt for piano around 1.5 years. Her fingers are much better now. But left hand is worse than right hand. Sometimes, the fingers will collapse if she does not pu ...

[ 本文章最後由 concerttime 於 08-4-2 16:26 編輯 ]

concerttime

唔洗啦　老師唔用開可能仲論盡
用ｏ羊書都好　點樣教先最重要
　

原文章由 LikLik 於 08-4-2 15:47 發表
hi,

我個仔係用John Thompson's Easiest Piano同step by step book 1, 見咁多人都講Alfred 同 Bastien好d, 咁我應唔應該同老師講想轉書? 會唔會唔係太好?   

pollychu43

Dear Liklik

其實不用轉書. 每個老師用的書本都唔同

只係我的建議. Alfred 同 Bastien.

不過我真係建議加樂理練習比小朋友做.

如果你想彈下 bastien 問下朋友有冇.

因為我都係copy自己notes 比小朋友

原文章由 LikLik 於 08-4-2 15:47 發表
hi,

我個仔係用John Thompson's Easiest Piano同step by step book 1, 見咁多人都講Alfred 同 Bastien好d, 咁我應唔應該同老師講想轉書? 會唔會唔係太好?   

[ 本文章最後由 pollychu43 於 08-4-2 16:45 編輯 ]

Radiomama

Liklik,

我唔係老師，不過作為家長我們與琴老師多溝通都是好事，問下佢先囉，唔想轉再說，您去tom lee行下揭下就知，原來有d書係咁吸引幼兒學琴!

教學相長嘛!

原文章由 pollychu43 於 08-4-2 16:37 發表
Dear Liklik

其實不用轉書. 每個老師用的書本都唔同

只係我的建議. Alfred 同 Bastien.

不過我真係建議加樂理練習比小朋友做.

如果你想彈下 bastien 問下朋友有冇.

因為我都係copy自己note 比小朋友




...

pollychu43

agree ar....

老師同家長真係要多溝通.最大收獲真係小朋友

不用擔心... 有好多琴書可以幫到小朋友

原文章由 Radiomama 於 08-4-2 16:46 發表
Liklik,

我唔係老師，不過作為家長我們與琴老師多溝通都是好事，問下佢先囉，唔想轉再說，您去tom lee行下揭下就知，原來有d書係咁吸引幼兒學琴!

教學相長嘛!

...

馬媽媽

Good Idea!! Let me try!! Thank you.

原文章由 concerttime 於 08-4-2 16:18 發表
hmm... one of the off the piano activity is, take a sponge like thing, pretend you are making cookies together, and we use our finger to press the chocolate chips into the cookie. Demonstrate, observe ...

bbchan2004

我老師都係咁教我小朋友手型.要自然.

我想問下我囡囡學

everybody Book 1

Dozen a Day (Blue)

Step by step (Book 3) (yellow)

學左8個月左右 , 我想問下老師你.有冇叮噹的琴譜 , 可否pm 給我

原文章由 pollychu43 於 08-4-2 14:52 發表
家長好多時都會問的手型問題 :

手型：先把手自然下垂，然後小心的保持手下垂時的形狀並擡起來放在琴鍵上，這就是彈琴要求的手型。

也就是說彈琴的手型就是要把手處於最隨便、最自然的狀態。而這時的手型，也符合手心空的 ...