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有冇家長后侮選了國際學校,而非傳統小學?   [複製鏈接]

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發表於 13-5-12 08:10 |只看該作者
True, better management and creative people need to know what questions to ask.

My question is: can we say local education has killed this ability that even the university education will not re-open it?

The Asian system to get higher education is purely based on open exam results. Every student is trained to answer exam questions. Teachers and students pay little attention to critical thinking. What you set the rules of the game is what you get. But at universities, students are educated to think, to explore, to examine and to prove. That's where the top people come from. I simplified it with the term "smart".

Sadly, local graduates are not strong in this sense, so they appear to be followers. I hope studying abroad can help.

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NKpa 發表於 13-5-12 08:10
True, better management and creative people need to know what questions to ask.

My question is: can ...
我覺得不少小朋友都有創意,但在大部份本地學校不會被重點栽培是事實,只要不被刻意排斥或壓抑就好。到中學,大學或社會,土壤及空間改變了,會慢慢發揮出來。
父母只可以鼓勵他的創意,獨特觀點....... 有時要開解及安慰他,讓他明白他沒有問題,是大部份其他人沒有他的能力及角度而已,謙卑些,慢慢其他人會看到的,就算看不到又何妨!

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NKpa  Agree  發表於 13-5-12 09:49
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-5-12 09:55 |只看該作者
There are many problems with local system. The traditional way (based on Chinese culture) can not be changed. Parents and teachers do not accept different ways of thinking and answers. Students are not allowed to make mistakes. Open exams do not appreciate creative and open answers. Studying is only for marks. Diversity of talents is not appreciated.. Freedom is not encouraged. Democracy is even confused. Critical thinking and common sense are worse. Voting 'on foot ' is the only way to escape from being fooled under current political education system. On the other hand, IS is not ideal place for all students. But at least, it allow you and your kids to choose the ways how to be educated and given time, room and choices.

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hksunshine    發表於 13-5-16 18:30

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回覆:有冇家長后侮選了國際學校,而非傳統小學?

Choisumwong , that's well said . Asian school systems  focus on short-term results while western education system focuses on long-term benefits and development of students.




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發表於 13-5-12 16:11 |只看該作者
I think CKY is an example of this way. They can do it because most of their teachers are not locally trained, correct me if wrong.

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發表於 13-5-12 18:33 |只看該作者
回復 NKpa 的帖子

I think starting in LS and then studying abroad can certainly help and can go a long way to address the problems.  Having gone through the process myself, I still don't think I am able to transition as much as I want though.  If I have a choice to start over at the age of 6, I would choose the path of IS.  I don't think there is right or wrong in IS vs LS debate but rather what is the better way for the student to learn and also what educational outcomes are the parents looking for?
I don't think LS "destroys" creativity either but I would think of it as "suppressed."  I do see many LS students blossom but this tends to be quite a bit later in the thirties or forties as they try to readjust to different modes of thinking and working.  On the other hand, IS students do not have as strong a grounding in some of the basic skills.  I suspect the average level of IS students are not as strong in math and science as LS students.  But there is a small subset of IS students who find their calling and can be truly brilliant.
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 13-5-12 22:14 |只看該作者
回復 Littleho 的帖子

I mean western education system allows more room and choices for students of different talents to develop. Asian education system does not have many rooms and choices. Western education focuses on individual need, but Asian education focuses on society or country need and is good at  producing massive workers.  When our society is so rich in Asia, why not embrace freedom, democracy, diversity, creativity and knowledege for our next generation ! Maybe  I am policatically wrong nowadys in HK !

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發表於 13-5-13 10:45 |只看該作者
回復 nkpa 的帖子

Further to my understanding, CKY also have a lot of homework but the homework style is different from the local school regarding the IB Curriculum.
Many private school encourage their students read different kinds of books to train up their language skills and they will provide more leisure time for them to read.
Many famous local school are encouraged reading but also encourage the one kind of athletics and one instruments. actually is no time for them to read and relax.

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hksunshine  is CKY good ?  thx!  發表於 13-5-16 18:31

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發表於 13-5-13 12:21 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 Jackieson 於 13-5-13 16:55 編輯
ANChan59 發表於 13-5-12 09:46
我覺得不少小朋友都有創意,但在大部份本地學校不會被重點栽培是事實,只要不被刻意排斥或壓抑就好。到中學 ...

同意, 最近兩三年參觀過IS學生參與IB及其他的VA作品, 他們的創意思維真係嘆為觀止, 恕我直言, 比較少LS學生可以做到, 當中亦有不少有關裸體男女的作品, 如果在LS, 恐怕可能一早已被禁止封殺了.

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annie40  yes, 快靓正!  發表於 13-5-13 14:53

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發表於 13-5-13 13:01 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:NKpa+發表於+13-5-12+08:10+True,+be

原帖由 ANChan59 於 13-05-12 發表
我覺得不少小朋友都有創意,但在大部份本地學校不會被重點栽培是事實,只要不被刻意排斥或壓抑就好。到中學 ...
本人覺得,小朋友的創意並非由學校主導,而是家長本身。學校教授基本技巧,小朋友發揮創意,家長保持開放、開明,為小朋友引領到創新及抱住everything is possible  的態度。



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fanfanbb  Can't agree more  發表於 13-6-14 22:13

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家長保持開放、開明,為小朋友引領到創新及抱住everything is possible  的態度。
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As a Chinese mom, a typical product of local school, saying could be much easier than wrenching my brain to be highly creative and open-minded.  I would rather leave this job to school and teachers who possess global vision and insight, and classmates who are very dynamic and alive.  

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fanfanbb  But I guess your caliber and qualification will be much higher than many school teachers bor  發表於 13-6-14 22:15

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發表於 13-5-13 15:19 |只看該作者
田心 發表於 13-5-13 13:01
本人覺得,小朋友的創意並非由學校主導,而是家長本身。學校教授基本技巧,小朋友發揮創意,家長保持開放、 ...
我跟你的觀點差異不大,主要分別是我認為家長是重要,不過學校不斷打壓或否定,對孩子會有混亂的感覺,父母還是學校正確!我認為學校唔阻住地球轉是大幫忙!
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-5-13 16:19 |只看該作者
回復 ANChan59 的帖子

我跟你的觀點差異不大,主要分別是我認為家長是重要,不過學校不斷打壓或否定,對孩子會有混亂的感覺,父母還是學校正確!我認為學校唔阻住地球轉是大幫忙!
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Anchan,

果然是前辈, 经常是:

學校阻住地球轉    或是
家长阻住地球轉

总之不论念那类型学校, 家校合作和沟通最重要! 最惨孩子感觉是混亂了, 那便失掉判断能力了.



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發表於 13-5-15 15:49 |只看該作者
回復 Shootastar 的帖子

Shootastar, can you share with me the experience of yours with the transition from LS to IS?  I am now at the crossroad and afraid that I would be making wrong decision for my kid.  Thanks in advane.

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annie40  Shootastar, I love to learn more from you too.  發表於 13-5-15 17:19

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發表於 13-5-16 01:04 |只看該作者
Hi Shootastar,  
Could you please PM me as well,  thanks!

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發表於 13-5-16 17:46 |只看該作者
With the increase of IS school fee consistently in the coming years, coupled with economic downturn, I expect to see more and more parents will 感到後悔, because they will then have financial difficulties.

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發表於 13-5-16 19:27 |只看該作者
Government absorbs the cost inflation of government schools, subsidized schools and DDS . International schools have to bear the ever increasing cost as a result of strong market demand.

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The new-entry civil servants have no education allowance for their children. Some years later, IS will have much less admissions from civil servants.
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