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I am not sure why people are bashing CKY's "poor" 1st (or 2nd) year results.  ISF's first year results was 32.x and not much better than CKY, yet people have confidence.  This year it was 34.x for ISF, much better results, right?  Why don't we cut CKY some slack?
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本帖最後由 daisychan 於 13-12-12 00:55 編輯
bobbycheung 發表於 13-12-11 22:57
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1. The 2 links I posted said that from 2013 onwards, taking Chinese A and Eng ...

The fact is, in 2013,  those students taking English B and Chinese A can still get a bilingual diploma.  This subject  has been deeply explored in EK in the past two months.

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本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 13-12-12 01:35 編輯

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The English B is totally irrelevant. They got the bilingual diploma with Chinese A and a group 3 or 4 subject in English. But if you still insist on that "those students taking English B and Chinese A can still get a bilingual diploma", I really have nothing to add.


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Some of the 2nd cohort got conditional offers from Imperial College and Oxbridge interview, cross my fingers, wait and see...

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回覆:2013 IB Results Reporting Thread

To be fair to new IB colleges, we should take a couple years to see the progress.

BTW, Oxbridge interviews are not any achievements, nearly 90% applicants will have interviews.



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annie40  3 students with 11A* and A are not big deal too. Some schools have big bunch that they don't bother to tell it.  發表於 13-12-12 13:02
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原帖由 ANChan59 於 13-12-12 發表
To be fair to new IB colleges, we should take a couple years to see the progress.

BTW, Oxbridge in ...
Agree... But i think the discussion point is.... Cky treat this as a experiment. Students already adopt the leisure schoollife few years.... Difficult for them to fit in other school .



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原帖由 112200 於 13-12-12 發表
Agree... But i think the discussion point is.... Cky treat this as a experiment. Students already ad ...

I didn't see from CKY official documents to define it's an experiment, only some web pal defined it as an experiment.

Even it's an experiment, if parents are informed in advance and willing to join in. I can't see any problem.

But, the phenomenon reflects parents are hunger for better education in whatever price.



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I still don't understand in what sense is this an experiment.  Looking at its curriculum, it doesn't seem all that different from some of the other schools that take IGCSE and then IB DP.  And if leisurely school life is the issue, I would imagine MYP is more leisurely.  MYP is inquiry based learning whereas IGCSE is studying for a particular exam?
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Well, your response proves that we have different channels.

It is you first misled in your thread 433# the criteria for getting a BD. That has been pointed out by HKTHK under threads 434# and 437#. As I said this subject on how to get a DP has been fully discussed in the past months. We all know how it works.

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HKTHK  I agree.  He is on a different channel so far!    發表於 13-12-12 11:04

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Bobby may miss our discussion months ago. He should refer to that as background.
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I sense that 112200 is a parent at CKY and a frustrated one as well.  I have never met the headmistress so can't comment on her doings.  As a neutral observer, I am just trying to point out that while the "hype" is great around the school being "different" and how it is the "new" way of education, that is just marketing.  Fact is in HK, there are a number of schools that are similar whether from a bilingual language, IGCSE + IBDP, inquiry/leisurely learning, …. point of view.  There are plenty of teaching/administrative talents around to guide a school such as this and also to fix any teaching issues.  Maybe this is why I am more sanguine about its future results since many of these "issues" are fixable?
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bobby, please go back and reread this thread.  I think it was here that we discussed the bilingual diploma extensively and I think most, if not all, of us have a good understanding of how it can be achieved, what has changed and what it really means to have a BD.  Unless you get caught up, it is very difficult to have a discussion since you are missing some of the background information.
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I would say the effect of a nice talk on stage can be unexpectably big. If your kids or yr close friends study there ,you will know the pain.  圖書教學 was first launched in cky and all parents were hungry for that due to pressure free. Other schools also use story book but not storybook only like cky. Can u imagine how kids can learn science /history.... By story books ? Then concluded by a group project ... Which is mostly involved by panic parents. How kids can get knowledge ? Not completely negative but Doubt ! HKTHK mentioned MYP in IB school ... Yes they are inquiry based ... Take CIS and  victoria school as an example. They let study learn from storybook but they also teach kids by their text material w homework and test regularly. Start from victoria kindergarten ,kids do chinese englush writing everyday . Make sentense and short paragraph in k3 although they are a one dragon IBschool. IGCSE is just the name of the curriclum system that school will take at the end, but how to path students to reach the level of the curriculum is the goal and school responisibily from my view. For IGCSE, Lets take SIS as an example , the way they lead the kids is well designed from their topical journey , regular homework and test, teacher check point is v tight and will split out lower performance students for small group teaching on each subject . Once those kids can catch up, then they will join back the normal class. This can avoid the situation of the class dominiated by a few outstanding students. Cky is v subject to parents 'private push after school , that why same gd performance student always at top and same lower performance kids always at the bottom. This also explain why they got the one highest IGSCE score student last year, but actually their IGCSE average score among the rest kids is far gap from that top student. .... The one and only one. All my view .



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引用:回覆+HKTHK+的帖子 Yes+they+are+fixable+

原帖由 ckwliu 於 13-12-12 發表
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Yes they are fixable IF they WANT to fix it. First they have to acknowledge that  ...
the excuse of "gd student" switch to other school is invalid. While students switch around is normal and happen in other schools too. The points is cky is not attractive enough for gd student to switch to from other schools.



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annie40  现实是好学校走了些平庸的, 麻麻地的学校走了top 学生.问题在于学校本身!  發表於 13-12-12 17:06


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Thanks for your sharing.  
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本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 13-12-12 12:25 編輯

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HKTHK,  

I started reading at Thread #425 when poonseelai said "A current year 12 CKY parent told me all students must take the bilingual DP (i.e. Chinese A and Eng A)."  I then read daisychan's response in Thread #427 that "Taking Chinese A and English B, like Logos, can also be a bilingual diploma".  That's when I started my comment because the rules say we need two language A in group 1 to get the bilingual diploma.   As to your comment in Thread #434, I already responded in Thread #436.  Daisychan said it was me who first misled in my Thread 433#  the criteria for getting a BD.  I still don't know what's wrong with my interpretation.  Please tell me.
I guess you are right that I shouldn't participate half way through without going through the entire post.  But I am too lazy to read through another 424 threads.  So please ignore my comments if they are off topic.

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HKTHK  We call it "Chi A, Eng B" to distinguish it from "Chi A, Eng A" and everyone understands that you qualify under the Group 3 or 4 in English since practically everyone take those in English   發表於 13-12-12 12:58
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