2013 IB Results Reporting Thread

HKTHK

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I thought 31.2 was the first year result. Why is it it's second?
IGCSE followed by IBDP is very common at other schools like ESF, GSIS, SIS, ..... Why is this an experiment?  I always thought the choice is between MYP and IGCSE and that MYP is the more 活動教學。

ANChan59

nintendo 發表於 13-12-11 00:13
乜唔係要係 qualified ib teachers 先可以教 ibdp？
至於學生，本身質素唔應該差到是拿 31 分 average 的 ...

我唔想被誤會落井下石，只分享一些觀察：
1. 我相信師資是一個深切考慮因素

2. IB Approach 跟 MYP or Pre-IB 是有分別的

3. 過份鼓勵學生考 IGCSE ，有好有唔好，好既去國際學校或李寶椿或出國，留低的 IGCSE 是優是劣，已露端倪

4. IGCSE 易取高分又可以見報，可能令孩子錯覺 IBDP 差不多

希望維持教育理念，檢討糾正，下一兩屆有明顯改善！

加油！

annie40

I want someone to tell me the figure is wrong, the correct one is 37.1 instead.  My friend's daughter is in year 12 that I hope she doesn't take IB at CKY.

c200

This is the truth

http://cky.edu.hk/academic/ibdp/results-2/

poonseelai

c200 發表於 13-12-11 16:01
This is the truth

http://cky.edu.hk/academic/ibdp/results-2/

A current year 12 CKY parent told me all students must take the bilingual DP (i.e. Chinese A and Eng A).  This may be good for the school from a marketing point of view, but should a student choose DP subjects based on his/her interest, target subject in the universities and one's ability?  

HKTHK

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This is a bad idea IMHO.  Too demanding for some students especially if they have other interest.  From their website, it does look like they offer language B though?

daisychan

Taking Chinese A and English B, like Logos, can also be a bilingual diploma.  Also as the first year attempt, Logos has  obtained an average IB score of 38.3 for their 15 students.

112200

Think a lot of parents will try to switch to other schools.... Same as someone said earlier.... Not trying to 落井下石，but everyone can foreseen there will be a wave of 逃亡潮 coming....

bobbycheung

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http://ibpublishing.ibo.org/live ... art=2&chapter=7

http://www.ibo.org/diploma/devel ... DPflyerV5LR-WEB.pdf

By the way, getting a bilingual diploma is of course commendable.  But we should also note that the minimum requirement is getting a grade 3 in two group 1 languages.   Whether grade 3 in itself is good enough a score is mootable.  Looking at the IB data, more than 99% of the candidates get grade 3 or above in the 4 English options in group 1.  For the 4 Chinese options in group 1, 100% of the candidates get grade 3 or above (except Chinese A Lit SL where 0.36% of the candidates failed to get it).   I don't intend to take away the credit of bilingual diploma.  It's just that we must not take it at face value.  We must look at the relevant scores as well.

daisychan

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Sorry, don't know what you want to bring out. From your other thread, it seems that you like to play around scores and     pay not much concern on the actual learning contents of the subjects.

ANChan59

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Why you don't take the accumulative % of grade 4 or above?

bobbycheung

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1. The 2 links I posted said that from 2013 onwards, taking Chinese A and English B won't get you a bilingual diploma.
2. Some schools put a lot of emphasis on the number of their students getting a bilingual diploma.  As I tried to explain, you only need to get a grade 3 or above in two group 1 languages in order to get a bilingual diploma.  The IB data said pretty much all candidates get grade 3 or above in group 1 Chinese.  More than 99% of the candidates get grade 3 or above in group I English.  Given these statistics, is it really hard for a Chinese student to obtain a bilingual diploma by getting a grade 3 in both Chinese and English in group1?   So next time when a school tells you how many of its students got a bilingual diploma, shall we just be awed by this statement or shall we ask for more information eg. the scores obtained by these bilingual diploma students in their group 1 subjects?

HKTHK

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Of course one can still get a bilingual diploma with Chinese A and English B.  They qualify under the second criteria since the Group 3 or 4 subject will be in English.  

bobbycheung

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I don't take the accumulative % of grade 4 or above because the minimum requirement is grade 3.  It means getting two grade 3 will be sufficient to qualified for a bilingual diploma.  I am not saying all these bilingual diploma students actually got two grade 3.  It's just that when the threshold is say grade 3 in Chinese A and grade 3 in English A, I think we must look deeper.  Getting grade 7 in two group 1 languages is vastly different from getting grade 3 even though they are both called bilingual diploma students.

bobbycheung

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The case you are referring to is getting a bilingual diploma with Chinese A and a group 3 or 4 subject in English. You don't get a bilingual diploma with Chinese A and English B.  Please look at daisychan's earlier statement of "Taking Chinese A and English B, like Logos, can also be a bilingual diploma."

By the way, in order to qualify for a bilingual diploma, the minimum requirement for this group 3 or 4 subject is also a grade 3.

I have also scanned through the data for group 3 and 4 subjects.  The so called "hardest" subject is Chemistry SL where 83% of the candidates get a grade 3 or above.  Almost all other subjects show that more than 90% of the candidates get a grade 3 or above.   

HKTHK

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That IS how they are qualifying!    

Group 1: Chinese A
Group 2: English B
Group 3 or 4: take the test in English since that is not Chinese!

bobbycheung

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I have no idea how the students from CKY, Logos or other schools are qualifying for the bilingual diploma.  I have nothing whatsoever against them.  I merely want to point out that we must not take "bilingual diploma" by its face value.  

HKTHK

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Sigh, maybe you should look into the subject more before making a recommendation?

shadeslayer

Emm... IBO's bilingual diploma seems complex.  I used to think there is only one way to get a BD, that is Chinese A and English A, which is very difficult and deserve a BD or whatever.  If that is not achievable and one has to do 1 A and 1 B, what is the point, other than the schools to look good on paper?