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That's why speed read seems so important to someone

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retriever 發表於 17-3-28 13:03
唔好講WINDOWS, 但最早MS DOS 有蓋老既腳毛架.
WINDOWS 時代佢應已經發過豬頭, 不過工程師MINDSET 仍在, ...

其實大家有無考究過佢有咩根據?

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You obviously don't understand. 不用根據，過去歴史「証明了」Moore's law 大致正確。

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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retriever 發表於 17-3-28 13:03
唔好講WINDOWS, 但最早MS DOS 有蓋老既腳毛架.
WINDOWS 時代佢應已經發過豬頭, 不過工程師MINDSET 仍在, ...

正因為咁, 所以D CODE 可以優化到更細 FOOTPRINT, 適合PORT 到更緊張既硬體要求... 譬如早期手機...

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You hit the nail on the head, 「早期」。面家手機hardware「勁過」好多電腦。4GB Ram, Octa-core CPU, 2K display, 重同你 optimize code?

The only exception might be 3D games super HD high frame rate games.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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retriever 發表於 17-3-28 13:15
其實你既論點係企係價值觀既另一面...

有位GURU工程師整左D 好野, 都要有位GREAT SALES 將D 野賣到鏘, 其 ...

你話工程師緊要D, 定售貨員緊要D 好難講.

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No no no, coders does not design a product, they code.

People with business ideas generate product requirements (e.g. Steve jobs), a product designer designs a practical product based on the requirements (e.g. Apple's Jon Ive). Then hardware manufacturer make the hardware and Software developer make the software (coding).

Then the COO oversees the mass production and schedules. Then the marketing team think of ways to create demand in the intended consumer market of the product. Then sales people sell the product to customer at the shop or in the office.

You see where does coding fit in the cycle?

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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retriever 發表於 17-3-28 13:15
其實你既論點係企係價值觀既另一面...

有位GURU工程師整左D 好野, 都要有位GREAT SALES 將D 野賣到鏘, 其 ...

某程度亦係反映現實...

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唓，講咁耐原來你同意 coding 係一樣低層次技能，賣唔到錢。

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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moral of the story：靜識coding 無用的，要懂得運用it ...

我會咁教自己個仔:
汽車上每粒螺絲都經過工程師精心設計, 如何合成金屬螺絲更加堅硬，如何應用物理學螺絲要轉幾多個圈尺寸幾多阔度幾多先夠力，如何運用autocad設計畫出工程設計。汽車甩左粒螺絲有機會發生危險。
也會同佢講印度軟件工程師用低微嘅廉價勞工幫這個世界完成咁多科技發展。佢哋每一滴汗都應該受我哋尊重。

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MrBeast 發表於 17-3-28 13:20
That being said. 萬丈高樓從地起，got to start somewhere

Yes. That somewhere is languages, liberal studies, integrated science and math in primary schools. Build a solid foundation of knowledge.

Parents need to identify buzzwords that come and go. Things that does very little apart from taking your money.

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The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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正所謂本是同根生，相煎何太急。有時間和興趣就入去睇下：

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution

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planetearth 發表於 17-3-28 13:56
我會咁教自己個仔:
汽車上每粒螺絲都經過工程師精心設計, 如何合成金屬螺絲更加堅硬，如何應用物理學 ...

高錕教發明光纖得到諾貝爾獎, 為人類作出偉大嘅貢獻佢冇李嘉誠咁有錢, 而家還有老人癡呆㖭。但係佢係我心目中嘅偶像. 好多科學家嘅心都好單純。只為貢獻，不為自己得益。香港無法發展科技的原因是人的心態，唔係人嘅能力缺乏。樣樣嘢都要算到盡，是香港人嘅弱點。

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planetearth 發表於 17-3-28 13:56
我會咁教自己個仔:
汽車上每粒螺絲都經過工程師精心設計, 如何合成金屬螺絲更加堅硬，如何應用物理學 ...

講完it，講下law c，engine d law c 確實是十分重要，treetop time chronicles 都有個相關故事架。些東西看落微不足道，但就關乎成敗

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-3-28 13:29
iPhone 之前的 smartphone 得啖笑，有如「無電腦之前有計數機，所以發明電腦不是甚麼回事」，或是「未發明 ...

for the origin of osx, yes you are rite.
i had read somewhere an article saying apple was one of the sponsors to linux project and at one time they fork the project to darwin.

anyway, per the info i am reading for now, osx was originated from bsd.

on the other hand, i don't think the smartphone before iphone was that bad. the worst of all was they used the sluggish windows.

imagine if there were the andriod os supported by the mighty google in lieu of those window phones...

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-3-28 13:54
某程度亦係反映現實...

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我唔認同CODING 低層次, 亦只同意在香港賣唔到錢.

哲學家都賣唔到錢, 但一定唔可以話低層次!

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MrBeast 發表於 17-3-28 14:19
講完it，講下law c，engine d law c 確實是十分重要，treetop time chronicles 都有個相關故事架。些東西 ...

系呀，我成日教個細嘅先要尊重知識創造者，前人的智慧，他們無分貴賤，咁他先會尊重自己所學嘅嘢, 因而發自內心的熱誠去追求更多。小小野都包含左人類累積嘅智慧.

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-3-28 13:57
Yes. That somewhere is languages, liberal studies, integrated science and math in primary schools. ...

which bit in my reply that you don't agree?

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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planetearth 發表於 17-3-28 14:06
高錕教發明光纖得到諾貝爾獎, 為人類作出偉大嘅貢獻佢冇李嘉誠咁有錢, 而家還有老人癡呆㖭。但係佢係我 ...

Again and again , my problem is only with "over-emphasizing" coding. I am ok with all kinds of science and technology education in schools.

don't mix them up.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-3-28 13:52
你話工程師緊要D, 定售貨員緊要D 好難講.

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可能你真係好迷APPLE/STEVE JOB.

GOOGLE 正正唔係咁運作.

果兩位哥哥仔話, 只要D PROJECT 有用解決到問題, 佢地自然搵到錢途.

GOOGLE 有著名既 20% RULE, 容許D 工程師用部份工時玩泥沙, 做佢地認為有趣又有用既 PROJECT....

據講唔少而家熱門既如 GMAIL, ADSENSE 都係咁產生的, 而唔係TOP DOWN REQUIREMENT

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MrBeast 發表於 17-3-28 14:19
講完it，講下law c，engine d law c 確實是十分重要，treetop time chronicles 都有個相關故事架。些東西 ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-3-28 15:03 編輯

you guys somehow managed to misinterpret most things I said.

I didn't say a screw is not important in a car/engine.I was saying a car is desirable as a product because it is a car, not because there is a world's best screw in it.

SAP is a desirable ERP product because of its feature set, and or its support etc, not because their code was highly optimized and can run quickly on a 5 year old computer.