陳守仁2nd Interview情況

Fatty

我覺得的你分析得都幾有道理。我想加多句，我覺得都有少少間接測試家長圖英文程度。

cheetah 寫道:
After some thoughts, there are 4 possible criteria that the school may opt for:-

1. the ability+attitude of the parent involved. (judging from the Eng briefing session)

2. the parent-child relationship & co-operation. (judging from the puzzle session)

3. the child education+training level of the child. (judging from the self-introduction session)

4. the child's aptitude & gifted child classification if any. (judging from the picture description session)


comments are welcome.

bowling68

咁不如等小朋友講完時  叫家長用英文講解圖畫內容補充

我估唔係

LeeHoMa

hi Cheetah,

I am not very sure if there are different versions from different instructors. For my case, I heard quite clear that "kids has to complete the puzzle by themselves". (Same as yours - all instructions are in English).

In fact, I wonder what the teacher can observe if parents are "requested to assist". Obviously, parents will dominate the whole sessions if they are allowed to take part. Do they think that the parent will enjoy playing together with their kids in such a tense interview atmosphere?  

Fatty

LeeHoMa,


我果組個老師係叫我地一齊完成 puzzle ，冇話叫小朋友自已做。同埋我自已同我個仔其實都唔意玩puzzle。

shuet_tam

In our team, I sure the teacher said : parent can assist the child to complete the Puzzle if necessary.

我有幫仔仔一齊砌格, 仲係第一對砌完添喎! 不過大多數都係仔仔自己砌, 因我其實對D方面都唔係幾"得", 仲要仔仔教番轉頭個隻呢    

cheetah

Dear Fatty,

criteria 1. somehow implies "少少間接測試家長英文程度", cos different parent types will probably react in different ways, and it is relatively easier for the teachers to make a record for reference.

BTW, by inviting the parent into the room, any chance of 少少間接測試家長 outlook & appearance too??

cheetah

Hi LeeHoMa,

if the parent let their children finish on their own, it reveals something.
if the parent push their children aside & dominate the whole session, it also reveals something to the teachers esp things like handling project-learning in the future.

cheetah

bowling68 寫道:
咁不如等小朋友講完時  叫家長用英文講解圖畫內容補充

我估唔係

it may take several hours to finish one group interview if the teachers are smart enough in doing so...  

bowling68

In my group, I heard the parent can ASSIST the kid to complete the puzzle.  But I choose not to assist the daugther by hand.  I let her handle it.  And only talked to her which pc to be adjacent to the ones she was making.

I think they will prefer the parent use mouth instead of hand in the 1st session.

cheetah

It will be difficult to bet which way they prefer, but it is getting quite clear that parent is one of the main criteria of the 2nd-in. Looking back, the 500 kids of 2nd-in-group have already proved themselves in performing on their own during 1st-in, all of them stood out from more than 2000 kids.

Just to quote an example:- A parent couple in front of me was fighting to gain entrance to the 2nd-in room, the School Head Mrs Li & a male teacher had to stop one of them in doing so, this somehow demonstrated themselves that they did not read carefully the 2nd-in letter or school website, and the announcement made in the school hall etc.

bowling68 寫道:
In my group, I heard the parent can ASSIST the kid to complete the puzzle.  But I choose not to assist the daugther by hand.  I let her handle it.  And only talked to her which pc to be adjacent to the ones she was making.

I think they will prefer the parent use mouth instead of hand in the 1st session.

LeeHoMa

hi Cheetah/Shuet-Tam,

It is Funny...

Let's assume that all 3 of us heard the exact wordings from the teachers, then there are 3 different instruction sets:

(1) Parent are requested to assist.

(2) Parent can assist the kid to complete the Puzzle, if necessary.

(3) Kids have to complete the Puzzle on their own.

Remark: Please don't mix up the first 2 instructions, it is different! Teacher will have different expectation for different instructions.

Parent should "react" properly to show to the teacher that you understand what the instruction saying. Or, in other words, the briefing is actually a test to the Parent. (This align with what Cheetah pointed out in his/her message!)

cheetah

Hi LeeHoMa,

instruction set should be uniform with common purpose behind, but it is quite difficult to guess correctly these purposes, see if we can gather more clues.

Vernique2005

cheetah 寫道:
After some thoughts, there are 4 possible criteria that the school may opt for:-

1. the ability+attitude of the parent involved. (judging from the Eng briefing session)

2. the parent-child relationship & co-operation. (judging from the puzzle session)

3. the child education+training level of the child. (judging from the self-introduction session)

4. the child's aptitude & gifted child classification if any. (judging from the picture description session)


comments are welcome.

I guess you're right.  My private student studies in this school, and he falls into all 4 of your descriptions.

His mom acts like a "helper" when he needs help.  He even told me once that it's mom who "worked together with him" when he didn't know how to do my hw. (This is just like Number 1 & 2 of your comments)

In addition, the boy is very adorable! He's not shy at all, and he's willing to share information with others.  After going to Disneyland, he brought me a map of the park and explained to me everything he did in Disneyland.  When I tried to read the map, he said, "Oh... I'm sorry! I forgot that you can't read Chinese! Just let me explain it to you and then you can ask me questions!"  It's just so funny to see the boy trying very hard to explain to me! What a lovely P1 boy!

  

LeeHoMa

hi Cheetah,

It is not necessary to be unique for all the instruction set. Information spreads fast, a parent in 9:00am session will share what she heard with the parent who attend 11:00am session. The schools should use some way to prevent this kind of stuff to happen.

SFA have an excellent management with different set of papers and oral instructions for different session.

I am almost in the last timeslot(12:30noon) for the whole interview period. I heard clearly that the teachers said that "Kids have to complete the Puzzle on their own". The teachers emphasised this sentence loud and clear. It seems to me that this is the most important message she want to bring out.

Besides, there is NO competition in my group. All Parent-kid team has to tell the story one by one according to their Desk no. Even some smart team(sorry, not me...) have completed their puzzle early, they still have to wait until all the rest finished. It is a little bit different from the input of some other parents.

Therefore, I guess there are several sets of commands in different interview sessions.

By the way, which timeslot you are in?

cheetah 寫道:
Hi LeeHoMa,

instruction set should be uniform with common purpose behind, but it is quite difficult to guess correctly these purposes, see if we can gather more clues.

Mrssslui

幾時知道結果呀?
平均幾多個人揀一個呀?

bowling68

the 2nd interview list is around 590 candidates,
and there are 5 class (34 x 5 = 170).

Supposed TSL reserves 30 seats for June 06 Knocking door.

Then 590 / (170-30)= 4.2 to 1 seat

The result to be annouced on 21/11  

Mrssslui

bowling 68,
how do u know?
why my fd didn't know the abv info?
Is it written on the interview letter?
thks.

bowling68

1. you can check in the TSL website about the distribution from P1 - P6 including boys/girls, Chinese/Non-Chinese.  
so 34 x 5 classes = 170

2. you can check the 2nd interview list in the website too.  16 pages (P.2 - P.18) 38 x 15 + 20 x 1 = 590

3. from some magazine saying that TSL will reserve 20-30 seats for knocking door., thus net available :
140-150 NOW.

塞曼莎

很有趣, 一邊廂罵到7彩(2nd Interview)

,一邊廂在算排位  

cheetah

as per school hall powerpoint info, result will be released on or before Nov21 by mail & website.

according to newspaper info, 185 seats (including 25 reserved seats).

approx. 556 applicants being counted (may be 10-30% absence rate).

roughly 3 to 1 ratio.   

Mrssslui 寫道:
幾時知道結果呀?
平均幾多個人揀一個呀?