初來步到，看過很多留言後覺得........

WYmom

virgokaren 寫道:
真係咁慘？？？
如果讀中中，英文催谷下，盡量保持成績中上，得唔得？
補數補埋英文數，時時睇多些 national geographic，學定些 phy、chem、bio 詞囊會唔會好些？

你地講到我好擔心！！！

但想當年，我初讀英中時，成日要查字典，隻隻字都好陌生咁，我又覺得無咩樂趣咁喎！點算？

The most difficult stage is transition from Chinese to English, it is much easier to transit at F.1 as the kid has more time to adjust.  If transit after F.3, definitely will be much harder and don't have enough time for preparing exams as well.

In the old days, in fact we used English text books, but teachers taught in Chinese.  By this, we understood well, and also know the English terms at the same time.  This is the way used by Pui Ching now.

uncleedward

virgokaren 寫道:
真係咁慘？？？
如果讀中中，英文催谷下，盡量保持成績中上，得唔得？
補數補埋英文數，時時睇多些 national geographic，學定些 phy、chem、bio 詞囊會唔會好些？

你地講到我好擔心！！！

但想當年，我初讀英中時，成日要查字典，隻隻字都好陌生咁，我又覺得無咩樂趣咁喎！點算？

Dear Virgokaren

You don't need to be over concerned. Just remember every year, in the past or at present, you would find a lot of CMI graduates going up to universities, locally or abroad. Most of them are doing well.

If the students have a decent grasp of English, they will find it not to difficult to study for their university studies in an English environment. After all, you only need to familiarize yourself with some specialized terms in your field of study. And honestly, learning English through learning different subjects in English is not the only way to learn good English. Your memory of the miserable time of looking up in dictionaries for words in different subjects is still being repeated by a lot of EMI students today and this has thwarted some of the students’ desire to learn.

uncleedward

平凡男人 寫道:
這裡只會談一些一級的英文中學，好像香港全是這些中學的天下，請問那些中中呢???於那裡讀書的小朋友似乎像給人判了死罪..........
請不要再看不起那些中文中學......及左那裡就讀的小孩子

Dear 平凡男人

It is only natural that people talk more about the top-tier schools. We all know李麗珊, but here who can tell us one name, and just one name, out of the many disabled athletes who have won so many gold medals for Hong Kong in the Paralympics over so many years?

Certainly we all know it is not the end of the world if our kids cannot get into a top school. I have had the pleasure in working with some of the best brains in the world. A number of them came from the best universities in the world, but an equal number of them did come from the not-so-famous universities, and some even without a degree. The most capable boss I have worked with was only a high school graduate, and we are talking about a global organisation with management of practically all PhDs.

When I was doing one of story-telling sessions at my daughter’s kindergarten years ago, I did the turtle and the rabbit story. I still remember the shocked look on the kindergarten's teacher face when I told the kids it was still much better to be a rabbit instead of a turtle if you have a choice, because the rabbit would probably not going to lose a second time for the rest of its life.

Moreover, in sad life we cannot all be rabbits. Some of us were be born as turtles or ugly ducks (me for one) and would never become rabbits or white swans. 石頭他朝 may not necessarily 成翡翠, What can we do? A learned friend of mine taught me this: the turtle should challenge the rabbit to a swimming contest or a steep downhill race. I think the morale of the story is that we just have to make do with whatever we have been given by the God, and make the best out of it, if possible.

Vernique2005

uncleedward 寫道:

It was still much better to be a rabbit instead of a turtle if you have a choice, because the rabbit would probably not going to lose a second time for the rest of its life.

The turtle should challenge the rabbit to a swimming contest or a steep downhill race. I think the morale of the story is that we just have to make do with whatever we have been given by the God, and make the best out of it, if possible.

    

Dear Uncleedward:

What a lovely explanation of the story!! I wish you were in my classroom when I was young.  It's just so cool to see people "thinking out of the box"!

virgokaren

uncleedward 寫道:
Dear Virgokaren
You don't need to be over concerned. Just remember every year, in the past or at present, you would find a lot of CMI graduates going up to universities, locally or abroad. Most of them are doing well.

If the students have a decent grasp of English, they will find it not to difficult to study for their university studies in an English environment. After all, you only need to familiarize yourself with some specialized terms in your field of study. And honestly, learning English through learning different subjects in English is not the only way to learn good English. Your memory of the miserable time of looking up in dictionaries for words in different subjects is still being repeated by a lot of EMI students today and this has thwarted some of the students’ desire to learn.

uncleedward：
我的想法是和你的見解類同，英中的學生有很多時在上堂時一舊雲，只有在課堂外拿著字典，查完一個個生字的解釋後才恍然大悟。這當中消耗了多少腦力和課外閱讀的時間？
此外，我又擔心英中的老師的語文能力是否足以用英文授課，而又讓學生覺得生動有趣的呢？
除非讀國際學校或頂尖名校，否則我對普通英中的教學法都有些保留！

我朋友囝囝讀一間算有名氣的英中，數理成績都不錯，但英文只拿 D，我真的有些失望哩！

還有，最重要的是視乎小朋友的學習能力，很難強求！

WYmom

virgokaren 寫道:

除非讀國際學校或頂尖名校，否則我對普通英中的教學法都有些保留！

Agree with your comments, it is true that the English standard of most local EMI schools are not good enough, so can't expect English standard of CMI schools to be good as well.  So I believe that either we join international schools or top elite schools, or it does not really matter joining which EMI or CMI schools.

fannychoi

1.我以前間九流學校咪一樣, 用英文書, 中文講解.
2.我覺得政府最大問題係一方面又要在大學用英文, 一方面又要係中學用中文.家長學生都知遲早係大學都要用英文學習, 點解唔係中一時已開始呢?
3. 我覺得開始時用中文學習一定係好些, 學生一定係明多一些, 但最担心係學生永遠過唔到學英文生字的階段, 這果用英文課本時, 學生起碼都要查字典, 查下查下英文閱讀就會無困難.過左要查字典的階段後用英文課本同用中文課本對學習已無分別.
4.中中學生最最大的問題係佢地大部分係唔會自發地看英文書(其實如果會的話, 已不用讀中中啦), 如果連課本都不用英文的話, 跟本不用查字典, 英文又點會好呢? 之所以中中學生要考Syl A, 唔敢考Syl B.

fannychoi

virgokaren 寫道:
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uncleedward 寫道:
Dear Virgokaren
You don't need to be over concerned. Just remember every year, in the past or at present, you would find a lot of CMI graduates going up to universities, locally or abroad. Most of them are doing well.

If the students have a decent grasp of English, they will find it not to difficult to study for their university studies in an English environment. After all, you only need to familiarize yourself with some specialized terms in your field of study. And honestly, learning English through learning different subjects in English is not the only way to learn good English. Your memory of the miserable time of looking up in dictionaries for words in different subjects is still being repeated by a lot of EMI students today and this has thwarted some of the students’ desire to learn.

uncleedward：
我的想法是和你的見解類同，英中的學生有很多時在上堂時一舊雲，只有在課堂外拿著字典，查完一個個生字的解釋後才恍然大悟。這當中消耗了多少腦力和課外閱讀的時間？
此外，我又擔心英中的老師的語文能力是否足以用英文授課，而又讓學生覺得生動有趣的呢？
除非讀國際學校或頂尖名校，否則我對普通英中的教學法都有些保留！

我朋友囝囝讀一間算有名氣的英中，數理成績都不錯，但英文只拿 D，我真的有些失望哩！

還有，最重要的是視乎小朋友的學習能力，很難強求！

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學英文當然可以有好多方法, 有些人會由看故事書開始, 有些人會由看報紙開始. 如果你有錢更可以請個講英文的人日日同你講英文, 從中亦可以學到地道的英語. 但第一二個方法都要用到查字典的方法, 開始時亦是很痛苦的.
我自己就真係要多謝以前間九流學校, 雖然九流, 但都係用英文課本, 我都被迫要查字典( 那時家貧, 無錢請西人教英文, 老師亦都無咁多時間理全班40人). 那時自己無咩遠見, 只喜歡睇中文故事書(因不用查字典, 亦是自己的母語, 學習時更有效益) ,自己唯一接觸英文時便是自己的教科書, 英文亦是這樣學返來的.
1.講左咁耐只係想講, 教統局推廣中文中學時所講的....係真話...但是只講左小部分, 無講埋用中文學習的後果. 無錯, 學英文唔一定用英文課本, 學英文係可以用唔同的方法, 但佢地無講出, 入中中的學生是band 2, 真係有幾多個會走去自發性地學英文? 好多時佢地係要迫先會去做, 但教統局只係一味推行用中文課本, 但點樣可以提升英文便無能為力.
2. 如果中文學習真係咁好, 點解又唔推廣至大學都用中文?最大的問題是大學係用英文課本, 如果中學時的英文程度已不能看中學的英文課本.大學時又點睇得明大學的英文課本呢? 教統局應講明, 好一部份中中的學生係入唔到大學的. 但佢地無講明.
3. 如果佢地真係無政治考慮, 只係為左學生好, 課本應該係中英兼備, 課堂上可用中文/英講解, 可以用中/英作答, 再加上增加英文的課時. 學生就可得益., 上課又可以聽得明白, 能力差的又可以明白課文的內容.想學多些英文又可以用英文理解課本.學校又唔使為左課文而煩腦

MYMYSO

mccmom 寫道:
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sagill 寫道:
中一讀好些，試下中二考插班。

會唔會好難呢?
喺中中考開第一可唔可以接受轉去英中考第尾呢?!學生本身嘅意願都好重要. [/quote]

唔一定考第尾掛!更何況你講緊的是考開第一.

virgokaren

我地係中國人，無可能唔識用中文，但，我地又要國際大都會，又點可以唔崇尚英文？

講真，普遍中文好的地方如台灣、中國，大部份人的英文都係麻麻！新加坡重視英文，新一代的人咪又係英文好過中文！聽講佢地係分開兩類人，一係講華語，一係講英文。

香港而家最失敗，大部份中學生係中英文都唔好！
台灣一名中一學生寫的文章，仲好過香港中五畢業生，咁香港人係咪好失敗呢！

Band 2 學生讀中中，就是因為他們學習能力不足，如果硬要他們讀英中，查字典要查埋生物、物理、地理......，講真，他們邊有心機讀落去，咪日日遊白雲！！！
我識得地中海，同識得mediterranean sea 的分別有幾大呢？最重要係 mediterranean sea 係邊度，地理環境、氣候係點？

可以的話，我梗係想中英文都咁叻啦！

fannychoi 話齋：
增加英文的課時. 學生就可得益., 上課又可以聽得明白, 能力差的又可以明白課文的內容.想學多些英文又可以用英文理解課本.學校又唔使為左課文而煩腦
***********咁本書咪好厚？？？
不過，我讚成中中英文課堂應比英中多些，讓他們多接觸英文，多講多寫多聽，英文才會好嘛！

virgokaren

MYMYSO 寫道:
唔一定考第尾掛!更何況你講緊的是考開第一.

好似我細個咁，讀 A 班果時咪考第尾，讀 D 班咪考第一囉！
一樣都係冇溫書架！