「港中科」變「港中城」

猴子爸

73662710 發表於 24-11-12 14:43
QS ranking is based some data, which should be factual, though not necessarily reflect the whole sto ...

Facts are not necessarily relevant and appropriate.
Let's say QS sets a new criteria that the proximity to Festival Walk accounts for 5%.   As a matter of fact, CityU will definitely get the full marks in this cateogry, but this criteria is no doubt considered utterly irrelevant and absurd.  

FNN

CityUHK was ranked as the Most International University in the World in Times Higher Education (#THE) World University Rankings 2024, with over 400 exchange partners in more than 40 countries or regions globally.

73662710

FNN 發表於 24-11-12 22:18
CityUHK was ranked as the Most International University in the World in Times Higher Education (#THE ...

香港有多一間top U大家應該感到榮幸! 幾十年前cuhk係野雞, 科大剛開校, 相比2大, 大家都認為次一等, 現在港三感覺沒有什麼分別！


公平啲講, 這排名是外國人排的, 不是城大用錢買返來.

排名高過科大係有些唔妥, 但科大比較偏科可能是主因！

猴子爸

FNN 發表於 24-11-12 22:18
CityUHK was ranked as the Most International University in the World in Times Higher Education (#THE ...

Pls correct me if I am wrong.   A big chunk of the so-called international student and faculty pools comes from China, our own country.   Should they be considered “international” by common sense?

FNN

猴子爸 發表於 24-11-13 09:05
Pls correct me if I am wrong.   A big chunk of the so-called international student and faculty pool ...

It seems that you may have a bias. Could you clarify the actual weightings or ratios of 'international students' and 'international faculty' in the overall QS assessment?

猴子爸

FNN 發表於 24-11-13 09:40
It seems that you may have a bias. Could you clarify the actual weightings or ratios of 'internatio ...

QS - intl student ratio 5%, intl faculty ratio 5%, the highest among all 4 major global university rankings.

pccw2017

猴子爸 發表於 24-11-12 11:48
Relax.  似乎没有人说CityU的不是，只是说QS Ranking不合理而已啦。

"呢個遊戲不嬲城大最識玩，世界百大真係有少少笑爆嘴(no offence to City U alum).."

唔知呢個beastiebistro post你點睇 ? no offence to City U alumn 喎 !? 信佢先係白痴 !!

猴子爸

pccw2017 發表於 24-11-13 11:07
"呢個遊戲不嬲城大最識玩，世界百大真係有少少笑爆嘴(no offence to City U alum).."

唔知呢個beastiebist ...

因為我唔知CityU係咪有俾錢QS, 叫佢哋做consultant幫學校改善ranking, 從而順利入咗全球百大，所以好難comment, 但以我嘅認知，同埋身邊嘅圈子嘅共識，就冇人會當QS top 100係一回事囉

pccw2017

猴子爸 發表於 24-11-13 09:05
Pls correct me if I am wrong.   A big chunk of the so-called international student and faculty pool ...

You're absolutely WRONG. CityU really has a lot of International students coming from all different countries apart from China. And in your stereotype, all Chinese look-alike students are regarded as Chinese coming from China because their appearance just looks like Chinese. QS as an international institution won't be biased like you. They will do fact checks. They will look at the students passports. All Chinese passport holder will only regarded from One country. In fact other ranking institution, THE, has also remarked CityU as the most international university in the World.
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/best-universities/most-international-universities-world

pccw2017

猴子爸 發表於 24-11-13 11:14
因為我唔知CityU係咪有俾錢QS, 叫佢哋做consultant幫學校改善ranking, 從而順利入咗全球百大，所以好難com ...

咁呢個世界好多人都唔係人囉 !! 香港政府、英國政府等等政府機構都睇QS嚟收移民喎 !

twhkleung

pccw2017 發表於 24-11-13 11:28
You're absolutely WRONG. CityU really has a lot of International students coming from all different ...

https://hongkongfp.com/2023/10/18/hong-kong-to-raise-non-local-university-student-intake-ceiling-to-40-reports/

The data in this report was from UGC.

"... Hong Kong had a total of 21,709 non-local student enrolments for the 2022-23 academic year. Among them, 74.8 per cent were from mainland China, and 21.6 per cent were from other parts of Asia."

See if you all treat the data from UGC, or not.

猴子爸

pccw2017 發表於 24-11-13 11:28
You're absolutely WRONG. CityU really has a lot of International students coming from all different ...

If a Chinese (including those just 打個白鴿轉）holding a foreign passport is classified as “international’ and if students/faculty from Mainland/Macau are not classified as “international” and if “international student/faculty ratio” does mean that much in determining the ranking/quality of a university, then you are right, City U may deserve its current Top 100 ranking status.

twhkleung

pccw2017 發表於 24-11-13 11:33
咁呢個世界好多人都唔係人囉 !! 香港政府、英國政府等等政府機構都睇QS嚟收移民喎 !  ...

所以, d乜乜好似獨立的report, 有着數就信, 冇着數就睇大隊.

好似d标普乜乜物物, 话边間 边間公司bond係AAA, 如果信晒, 可能揸住d 明日就会default都唔知.

(重點係作参考而不要盡信, 唔理份report几權威)

猴子爸

pccw2017 發表於 24-11-13 11:33
咁呢個世界好多人都唔係人囉 !! 香港政府、英國政府等等政府機構都睇QS嚟收移民喎 !  ...

I remember QS ranking is supposed to be one of the 4 rankings, but not the only one, that HK govt and UK govt use for reference.

twhkleung

猴子爸 發表於 24-11-13 13:04
I remember QS ranking is supposed to be one of the 4 rankings, but not the only one, that HK govt a ...

Important Keyword...

"HK govt and UK govt use for reference."

FNN

猴子爸 發表於 24-11-13 09:53
QS - intl student ratio 5%, intl faculty ratio 5%, the highest among all 4 major global university  ...

https://qsiu.app.box.com/s/g1xr42v85gqvrl4p38kea8ak068ujt4w

twhkleung

唔好介意我請講野直接.

1. 要成績, 就要$, 有$唔一定有achievements, 但冇钱而有achievements, 基本上係冇乜可能. 唔理係Sci, Engineering, Med, Law, even Social Sci, 全都係$. 少个崩, 都唔得.
2. 睇返個几個乜乜ranking, top 20, 什么top50, 间间U的Endowment都係多得好西利, private school唔好講了, 就算係state u, Oxbridge, IC, Berkeley, Michigan, NSW, 連星加波U都有勁大量endowment. 我地3大5大8大, 唔知有几多呢?
3. 唔知有几多唔緊要, 當我地因為HK的U入左top 50, top 20而感到驕傲光彩時, 我地自己捐左几多? 特別係身受母校大恩, 而有今时今日的成就人仕? 有冇一个合乎自己財富比例的捐贈? 如果冇或比例未夠的话, 係时候后做d野喇(我同學向3大其中一間負責籌款果part, 佢话非常非常困难). 韜光彩, 名正言順, 先有自豪感!

講ranking, ARWU果個返而似样d, 因為目标清晰, 就係只講academic / research achievement, 其它d 綜合性就不理, 就好似中学果边, 個中学ranking 只计DSE 3C 的5+, 其它的因數不作比較, 唔理大家同晤同意, 但個meassurement 同目标清晰. 從某覺度可作参考.

FNN

twhkleung 發表於 24-11-13 13:58
唔好介意我請講野直接.

1. 要成績, 就要$, 有$唔一定有achievements, 但冇钱而有achievements, 基本上係冇 ...

師兄：

ARWU唔係咁多盲毛識睇，你講出嚟會俾人鬧。 我舉例，2023年Polyu的Management 世界第一，你估會俾幾多人鬧？

我又舉過另外一個例，南洋理工上得咁快，係又係因為一個人，嗰條友叫做Jason Shaw （管理學嘅權威）。2024 Polyu 跌到第四，因為呢條友從Polyu 去咗南洋理工。

https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/gras/2023/RS0511

twhkleung

FNN 發表於 24-11-13 14:32
本帖最後由 FNN 於 24-11-13 14:37 編輯

師兄：

Good point!
所以, as a ref就好了, 唔好當係bible咁只要信, 不要问.

beastiebistro

我連我母校都照揶揄，今年QS全球排第二喎，一啲都唔convincing，笑大人個口。唔通我自己offend自己？

由頭到尾我都話呢啲排行榜得啖笑，當然係我個人睇法