ISF - feeling like in Shenzhen

torunpoland

A few days ago, I had a casual chat with my kid's class teacher. As it was the first and informal meeting, we talked something like where we live, how we knew the school, questions of this sort for him to better know us. Interestingly, he revealed that he had an interview with an applicant who lives in Shenzhen. He asked the parents when they would plan to get up to send the kid to the school, the parents answered 4:30am. The teacher replied he couldn't let the kid in, since it'd surely be a daily disaster for the kid to commute like this.

canteen31

torunpoland 發表於 16-10-20 23:38
A few days ago, I had a casual chat with my kid's class teacher. As it was the first and informal me ...

Maybe the school didn't think they are wealthy enough to buy a place in HK?! Hahaha.... just kidding.

ericwong520

無際星塵 發表於 16-10-20 21:49
那麼簡單仲要問

I know there are many mainlanders to apply.  but heard from friends they are not majority.  is that just because there were many mainland kids in her interview group?

Artie

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As far as I know, ISF is probably one of the very few international schools (i.e. schools with non-local curriculum) that have strong emphasis with chinese. I read it from EK that their lower grade classes have 70% chinese + 30% english. This is definitely much more easy for children from mainland to adapt to. I think it does make sense if mainland families tend to choose ISF.
And is it quite common that Chinese people (including Hong Kongers) tend to flock together anyway. Look at boarding schools in other countries. There are certainly a bunch of them that take a lot of Hong Kongers. And Hong Kongers always say these are "good schools".
Why are we judging mainland people when we Hong Kongers are doing exactly the same thing?

msmiu

Artie 發表於 16-10-21 14:45
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2011/12 are the most disastrous years where mainlanders flocked to hk to give birth so the babies claim hk citizenship.

This is Much disliked by Locals. Period.

Such was stopped near 2012 year end. And rightly there's a very valid and strong reason why that's put to an end. And u are asking why there's a judgement?!?! Gimme a break!

cnh0397

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Your comment is full of prejudices.  Alot of Hong Kongers flocked to overseas before 1997, namely Canada, to give birth and claim their citizenship as well.  Weren't they doing the same thing as what the mainlanders are doing today?  Since when if comments like yours made in other countries they are called "racism", but if they are being made in HK they are acceptable? The number of Hong Kong locals switching to IS is dramatically increasing. How would you feel if a foreign family make a commend such as "oh wow, I thought we are interview at a local school".  We are living in a world with different races and cultures. Kids grow up viewing others  throughout the eyes of their parents. So please learn to accept and respect.  

cnh0397

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FattyDaddy

cnh0397 發表於 16-10-21 22:21
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Your comment is full of prejudices.  Alot of Hong Kongers flocked to overseas before 1997 ...

Don't want to wade into an argument here but I think someone needs to point out some facts and put things in perspective.

Before and after 1997, when Hongkongers "flocked" to Canada and other countries overseas, they entered those countries as qualified immigrants, they had every right to be there and to give birth there.

Now compare that to people from a certain country visiting HK as tourists and then gate crashing into emergency wards in HK hospitals to give birth for the sole purpose of gaining HK residency and all the tangible and intangible benefits that may bring, that is a totally different ball game.

Artie

msmiu 發表於 16-10-21 19:28
2011/12 are the most disastrous years where mainlanders flocked to hk to give birth so the babies c ...

To be honest, the citizenship policy in Hong Kong and many other western countries is probably quite the same. Babies get the passport or citizenship by birth.

In any case, why not stick to the original topic "ISF".

nov21

ISF is not an international school as I was told by the school principal so no need to compare with other tranditional IS.

DreamKid

當年加拿大人都批評香港移民影響到佢地既生活，同而家香港人批評大陸人影響我地既生活一樣。而且樓主只不過講自己既感受啫

type409

I agree with you. I was shocked by what I saw at the pick up venue from the beginning of this academic year. Many hongkongers and Caucasian have gone to other schools at middle grades is one of the reason. All these places are taken by b6 because of their advantage in Chinese langauge.

But ISF is no doubt one of the best "IS" which can turn kids, at least my one, into a fluent Chinese speaker.

tyson715

其實用教學語言為國語同英文,就明顯不過...( 個人認為)

bforbtec

好多香港家長其子女, 上到grade 6-8  就閃人

意識到此間學校, 存在極重大問題

如果覺得好, 我祝你子女讀到grade 12

子女升到grade 6, 你就發現, 問題極嚴重

最遲grade 8 應該會感受到

ISF 有大量外國人

中國人也是外國人

http://academy.isf.edu.hk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Virtuosos-2013-14.pdf

這只是表面

可以更深入分析

上堂, 到落堂發生的事

s7824

FattyDaddy 發表於 16-10-21 23:27
Don't want to wade into an argument here but I think someone needs to point out some facts and put  ...

Totally agree with your point of view

Moreover the behaviour of mainlanders are really horrible, I do not want my children to be bullied by those kids as we can reckon how unreasonable those families are, and I do not want my children to learn the bad behaviour from those young mainlanders as well.

canteen31

Well.... theres possibilities that there could be some parents who likes ISF cus of the high percentage of mainlanders, after all, their kids can perhaps network with 官二代or 富二代

In HK, there are school which attracts a high percentage of south asians and Muslims, I don't think its considered racist if I don't attempt to let my child studies at these school right?

I remember 平機會actually made a statement confirming that legally-it's not considered racism between HK ppl and mainlanders and vice versa. HK ppl and mainlanders are the same race. And one should also note that in China, 北京人may not like say for example 上海人.... even Chinese ppl living in china has their differences and values. The world we live in is not equal; and discrimination - whether u like it or not, do exist.

nintendo

So that is why it is important to pay school visit BEFORE deciding whether you like the school and BEFORE paying the application fees to avoid disappointment.
It may not be the cup of tea to everyone but definitely fulfil the needs of many others. I have also heard many people complaining that there are too few schools with non-local curriculum that have strong chinese.
So ISF definitely fills the gap.

gobgo

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Bforbtec can you elaborate more on why students start to flock to other schools starting middle years? You mentioned 上堂到落堂. Is there huge problems in their curriculum or teaching which make people want to leave? Their IB average scores seemed quite high in the recent years and I saw some of their IBDP science projects seems to have even reached university levels. Are those just very rare cases in the grade who had lots of outside help? Does the school provide extra resources for those who are seen as high achievers to boost up the overall standard of the school?

bforbtec

gobgo 發表於 16-10-24 02:20
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Bforbtec can you elaborate more on why students start to flock to other school ...

science  ,尾二 第二頁 有詳情


http://academy.isf.edu.hk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ISF-School-Profile_2014-15.pdf

http://academy.isf.edu.hk/en/2015/09/school-profile-2015-16/

isf 最差就是science, 你幻覺 覺得ISF science 好

學校做個款出來

ISF train 寫中文, 是全港國際學校第一

但要train 中文, 去本地中學, 駛鬼來國際學校?

所以服務對象是中國父母, 不是想學英文的香港父母

2014-2015年間, IB  lang  B 英文人數大幅上升

代表大量中國學生滲入學校

數學成績差轉讀sl STUDIES, design

數學成績好轉讀hl maths

hl maths人數, 由1人2014年, 到7人2015年

hl phy 人數也大幅上升, 成績無跌, 這些是大陸人的跡象

大陸人數學好, 物理好, 因為計數為主

一到化學, 成績就急插, 要英文理解能力, 就差

2015年化學平均分更是4.5 分!!!


ISF 中文 訓練 好, grade 7, 已經成日要寫500 -1000字中文功課

train 中文勁過本地中學

英基 year 11 考試都係寫250-300字中文





香港父母, 多數不想咁大壓力走人的

功課及教學脫離現實

選學校,不能只看IB 平均分

各間國際學校鬥做數(包括英基), 做到外表好動聽, 美麗


所以吹湊到ISF 好正的父母, 千萬不要俾仔女轉校
即使有一天子女頂唔順, 子女提出主動想轉校要求

日日起度寫1000字中文功課