有冇準備遲d番外國定居嘅家長?小朋友會讀IS定local?

pc430

hkparent 發表於 15-2-6 17:58
You said you wanted to live in Australia permanently. If your child is raised there, likely he will  ...

live in australia permanently is my selection but my kid. He can back to hk or other countries to work after graduating in Oz. Having more options always better no option, right?
Poorer economy is not only due to people's working attitude in the country and also many other factors. Working attitude somehow is one of the reason affecting the country's competitive anyway, that's the reason why HK and SG is having such a low unemployment rate while Oz, Europe and US are always above 7%!

DreamKid

所以，不要以為本地畢業既年青人一定勤力。

shadeslayer

原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-06 發表
回覆 shadeslayer 的帖子

我係美國公司做左9年,我嘅role係對鬼多過對人,唔可以話western個個lazy,有好多都 ...

How do you define competitiveness anyway?

The question is not applying pressure to children or not. The question is how and when. Sooner or later every single one of us have pressure in our adult life. Do you believe applying as much pressure as early as possible is the key to building competitiveness?  This is what some of the local schools are doing. In fact many of the local schools are doing.

Why link training for withstanding hardship with education, by having a busy/difficult curriculum that kids cannot handle?  Then call it hardship training?

shadeslayer

原帖由 DreamKid 於 15-02-06 發表
Ha ha 好同意 ！

鬼老無我地咁勤力，但比我地賺得多。中個人淨係識死做。不過，宜家既年青人都高叫 work l ...

Yes, more hardworking does not equal to more competitive in the workplace.

新界D牛夠勤力。

shadeslayer

原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-06 發表
live in australia permanently is my selection but my kid. He can back to hk or other countries to wo ...

The unemployment rate is irrelevant to the "is Chinese more hard working and therefore more competitive?" Question.

I am not sure why you think Aussie, Yankees, Brits, German etc are all having little or no options to work elsewhere. Don't we see them everywhere in HK, Singapore and China, etc and occupying nice jobs?

DreamKid

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 15-02-06 發表
Yes, more hardworking does not equal to more competitive in the workplace.

新界D牛夠勤力。

Yes, Steve Jobs' iPhone earned all our money

vivian-chy

pc430 發表於 15-2-6 17:09
回覆 shadeslayer 的帖子

我係美國公司做左9年,我嘅role係對鬼多過對人,唔可以話western個個lazy,有好多都 ...

"準時收工, 週五after office hour飲酒，weekend唔覆email"
有咩問題呢？影響唔到你，你有你賣命，我有我嘅life style. 我自己而家都係咁，亦相信公司唔會炒我。
其實你已經有決定，如果咁唔鍾意western style (Relax working attitude 隨時被炒), is 真係唔啱你... 尤其係esf.

caa

pc430 發表於 15-2-6 18:37
live in australia permanently is my selection but my kid. He can back to hk or other countries to wo ...

But they have big houses while we have 劏房

blc_mama

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 15-02-06 發表
Yes, more hardworking does not equal to more competitive in the workplace.

新界D牛夠勤力。

If 樓主's statement is correct, all Nobel prize winners should be Chinese/Asians. But the fact is...

DreamKid

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 15-02-06 發表
"準時收工, 週五after office hour飲酒，weekend唔覆email"
有咩問題呢？影響唔到你，你有你賣命，我有我嘅 ...

其實我覺得樓主 prefer LS, 只不過怕到時小朋友去到澳洲唔適應。 樓主就 go for LS 吧！

964000

但個班吾識中文，又懶，又冇競爭力的鬼佬，在香港都是都位高要職。native speaking English teacher, 在香港是本地英文老師人工的double

hkparent

原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-06 發表
live in australia permanently is my selection but my kid. He can back to hk or other countries to wo ...

Higher unemployment rate is partly due to the welfare benefits of a country. Some people prefer not working because they don't have to and can still enjoy a reasonable living, not because there are no jobs. If you are so lucky to have the right yo live in such a country, why bother coming back Hk? If you like the local school system and working environment here, why bother bringing the child back to Australia for high school study? Secondary schools here are very good at training up a child's so-called competitiveness. If you have such a mindset, better make up the decision to go for local school. You will regret in international school.

torunpoland

我明白樓主想法，因有朋友都係咁諗，話想小朋友在香港讀到中學（初/高未定），等孩子可以drill得勁d (exact wording), 過到加拿大高中或大學時就可以輕鬆讀書，因為呢個朋友去到楓葉國讀高中時，好輕鬆完成數學，「一早就識啦！好易啫！」，跟住入大學。我相信有好多人都會有呢種想法，但是，我和老公不認同，特別是外子放洋十年，成績一等一的好到無以復加，但深深體會到「視野狹窄」在讀書時帶來的限制（當然事過境遷，當年的所謂「狹隘」也不是甚麼局限，能夠經得起鹹水的衝擊，解除中國式若干毒素，是他放洋十年的「小成就」。）

964000

原帖由 torunpoland 於 15-02-06 發表
我明白樓主想法，因有朋友都係咁諗，話想小朋友在香港讀到中學（初/高未定），等孩子可以drill得好d (exact ...

我好明白你老公的想法，我都用了三十幾年來解毒回想當年的我，真係一額吾係話而家好好，至少有點insight

hkparent

原帖由 964000 於 15-02-06 發表
我好明白你老公的想法，我都用了三十幾年來解毒回想當年的我，真係一額吾係話而家好好， ...

I'm still in the process of detoxication, so don't want the child to get any toxic.

DreamKid

原帖由 torunpoland 於 15-02-06 發表
我明白樓主想法，因有朋友都係咁諗，話想小朋友在香港讀到中學（初/高未定），等孩子可以drill得好d (exact ...

初到外國，總係唔明啲鬼仔咁蠢。後來發現，蠢既係我。我從來都冇真正明白過，只是死記。

FattyDaddy

pc430 發表於 15-2-5 14:01
學好中文之後去澳州都已有足夠中文程度第日做野會好有用 ...

It boils down to one question, how determined are you regarding "permanent" settlement in Australia?

If it is really PERMANENT, then Chinese is not going to be of much use at work for your child, and even if your child knows some Chinese, it unlikely that your grandchild will know much if any, so why not let go of it now and save your child some pain? If you dislike the Australian way of life, e.g. relaxed working attitudes, drinking on Fridays etc, then you should think thrice about a "permanent" move to that country, because your child might and your grandchild definitely will adopt that kind of lifestyle.

hkparent

原帖由 DreamKid 於 15-02-07 發表
初到外國，總係唔明啲鬼仔咁蠢。後來發現，蠢既係我。我從來都冇真正明白過，只是死記。



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In class, foreign students discussed a topic with the teacher and asked critical questions. We Hk students didn't know how to ask but just sat there writing notes of what the teacher said. In exam, we regurgitated those notes without any original ideas and insights. We only passed the exam but those foreign students excelled.

hkparent

原帖由 hkparent 於 15-02-07 發表
In class, foreign students discussed a topic with the teacher and asked critical questions. We Hk st ...

Before I went overseas I thought I was a top student, worked extremely hard and got top grades. But when I was there, I became one of the bottom students in class. I felt it a pity that I had lost so much time and learnt so little.

紅紅

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 15-02-06 發表
"準時收工, 週五after office hour飲酒，weekend唔覆email"
有咩問題呢？影響唔到你，你有你賣命，我有我嘅 ...

冇錯，其實外國人只是both work hard and play hard吧！人地準時放工唔代表人地唔hard working嘅，相反日日OT遲放工亦唔等於勤力, 我覺得係efficiency嘅問題。我反而覺得，唔能夠在上班時間内完成工作，是inefficient 的一種表現。