想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎?

貝珠

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大家都係concern 細幾個月, interview 的表現一定冇大b 咁好, 尤其是現在僧多粥少, 大家都想更有把握, 並非不同意IB 理念

jolalee

Mighty 發表於 15-2-7 14:55
但不要忘記、同年１月同１２月的、当還是４、５歳時、真係好大分別。　所以完全明白点解耐不耐就有人問大 ...

只有家中有細B的孩子才能感受固中的矛盾

My boy was born Nov 2010, was in ESF K1 and currently in another through-train IS Reception (K2). He had no problem with interviews as he is very chatty and raised with near native English. Academic-wise he is doing fine but his writing skill is quite behind so i am getting him some outside help right now. More than half of his current classmates are born the first few months of the year, and he the ONLY student born between Sept-Dec...


Since he's a boy and emotionally not quite mature, I do intend to put him back a year. It is just a matter of when. I know two other moms with year-end boys in our school so i am thinking of asking the school to put them together in the same class if they all defer a year together. I am just planning to talk to the lower school VP about when i should put him back (as spot for the next Reception year will be filling up soon). It will be either this year or next that i will probably be doing this. My husband deferred a year under the advice of his teachers back in Grade 1 (his family moved to Australia when he was 4 years old), and it did him a world of good.

As a 過來人, Mighty, may i ask if you would CONSIDER putting your girl back a year in hindsight? You mentioned "留班都有ＩＴＳ　ＢＡＤ　ＰＯＩＮＴＳ", may i ask what the disadvantages are? Any input or advice are greatly welcomed. Thank you in advance!


As for 樓主, ncjkbb may i ask how old your child is right now? Your thread title was 細B考國際小學.. but i suppose you are talking about K2 reception year, is that correct? (because most IS spots are gone by Grade 1) My suggestion too is to stick with the school's policy; that way you'd always have a possible 2nd chance. You cannot believe how much a year would make, but never risk the school cutting you out because the child is "a month too old" to try for a year behind. In the mean time, unfortunately, you just have to make sure the baby is up to par with kids 11 months older then him...

Mighty

Disadvantages : (1) self esteem might get damaged (2) the child might get bored doing the same thing again
So if you can make up your mind, i would say do it before Y1.

annie40

剛好小女曾當過班中的細B和大B，在此簡約學習情況是：

女兒是一月生日的，兩歳半時發現了在家附近有一所不錯的本地幼稚園。每星期上兩次playgroup在同一校舍。按當時年紀，要待明年九月才可上K1, 因為年底家人生病，日常生活是翻天覆地，故懇求校長在不違規的情況下，淮許她在一月剛滿三歳時插入K1, 當時班中最大的同學年齡比她大一年兩個月。學校的安排十分週到，孩子亦算成熟，社交上很快便適應了。至於繪畫和寫字，明顯是有差別，手部肌肉未發展，強求不得，偶然發現孩子對做不好的工作紙有，輕微挫敗感，其他發展倒是合理合格。

及后轉讀IS kinder, 因按年份收生，突然成為大B, 適應力強，學習力高，兩三個月，已成為＂路透社＂,每日班中大小事，十分清楚，其他媽咪想知孩子的事，可以問我，或者問佢。因為長得健壯，遇上害羞和柔弱的孩子，她會主動幫忙。這種自信就是年長十個儲蓄回來的。

不明所以的家長誤會經常誤解自己孩子的能力，事實上大自然是有time clock 的，按時段翻土，播種，澆水，施肥是必要的，如果忽略了「時間季節」，就得個(攪）字，多努力也是事倍功半。

annie40

是年長十個月儲蓄回來的

Artie

Mighty 發表於 15-2-7 14:07
Yes RC allowed us to try again the following year.  Mind you it was 6-7 years ago so I dont know if  ...

Mighty, Both of my kids are "smaller kids" (one born in Oct and one born in Dec) and they got offers from RC. My kids are much older than yours probably (my younger one is in Year 11 and older one in university now), and that was also years ago when we applied to RC. I think RC did not really prefer "older kids" back then. Not sure about it now.
More I think during the years in primary, my son have had different special needs classmates. So I guess RC were willing to take special needs students. Again, not sure about it now.
In any case, I think RC admission bar was not exactly strict 6 - 7 years ago. So, I am wondering what the reason was when they asked you to apply again the next year.
Also, when they said they asked you to apply again the next year, did they mean you can apply again for Year One? Or did they mean that you were to apply again but for Year Two?
I know my queries are probably not quite relevant to this topic. But as an RC mom, I am just curious.

annie40

女兒的小學特別多西方孩子，其中現象是，按十二月是適齡cut time, 九月后出生的孩子，西方家長幾乎全部要求孩子遅一年入學了。

Mighty

Artie 發表於 15-2-8 14:22
Mighty, Both of my kids are "smaller kids" (one born in Oct and one born in Dec) and they got offer ...

RC asked me to defer a year and came back to apply for Y1.  They even recommended some kindis for me to go to as we just came back from overseas. The teacher in charge happened to have a Dec boy so she also chose to defer her own child a year.

964000

原帖由 Mighty 於 15-02-08 發表
RC asked me to defer a year and came back to apply for Y1.  They even recommended some kindis for me ...

RC is getting a bit more "selective" nowadays

Artie

Mighty 發表於 15-2-8 14:51
RC asked me to defer a year and came back to apply for Y1.  They even recommended some kindis for me ...

We did not really choose to let them start early. We also came back from overseas, and at some point, we merely were trying to find a school. Just any school that was willing to take my kids. The first school we found were willing to take my kids without the need to deferring one year (for kindergarten) and eventually we applied to RC when they were older and RC also did not ask them to defer one year (we probably did not have the same interviewer as you did). Honestly, if either school asked us to defer one year, I would not really mind.
So it was rather like the path chose us, not that we chose the path.
My older one is now in university, and at some point, being only 17 when she started freshman year is kind of inconvenient. She is not in a university in Hong Kong  and there were things that we need to arrange for her since she was not 18 yet when school started. Luckily, she is a citizen of that country so there are fewer things to deal with. For my daughter, she rather enjoyed being a "smaller kid" though. She enjoyed being one of the youngest in class even when she was in high school.

gatochat

I think if the child was born after 23rd Nov, they can choose to defer a year.  This is what a friend of mine told me (RCHK) and her son was born on 17th, so he was not allowed.  

Anther option is you can still apply this year and if the school believes your child is not quite ready, they will offer you an interview next year.  My son was born on  28th Nov, but I didn't defer him as I was worried about the competition; the birth rate increases every year.  I also figured out if my child was not ready, they will defer him, and I was kinda hoping he would be deferred, but instead he was offered a place.  

My son being one of the youngest in his class (2 children are 3 days younger than mine) I don't think academically he needs much help.  However, emotionally he is still quite immature and being boys, this means sometimes he can get into trouble and can easily be labelled as 'naughty'.  Although I am sure this will improve in time so I can't say whether its good or bad to be the youngest...

紅紅

我女是十月出身，佢在本地幼稚園的K2中途，我幫佢報IS 的Year 1。當我們去現時學校interview的時候，副校長負責access我個囡，佢地去完school tour回來，副校長同我講佢覺得我囡應該defer back a year, 即是讀reception instead of year 1。副校長怕我唔開心，同我解釋其實都唔算係留班，因為只是香港的制度是計12月，但很多其他國家其實是計8月或9月，所以如果我囡在英國或美國入學，也是未夠枰讀Year 1。

利弊方面，我覺得我囡真的好適合現在呢個年級，可能佢真的發展較遲(身心都係)，根本冇人知道佢係deferred back, 所以對心理沒有影響(當然，因為她不是中途defer, 而是一入學就defer, 所以唔會見到以前同班同學在高一班的情況)。除了要交多一年學費外，我暫時諗唔到有乜壞處了！

Mighty

紅紅 發表於 15-2-8 17:36
我女是十月出身，佢在本地幼稚園的K2中途，我幫佢報IS 的Year 1。當我們去現時學校interview的時候，副校長 ...

Yup, that's why I suggested if you cld make up your mind do it before going to Y1.

jolalee

Artie 發表於 15-2-8 15:20
We did not really choose to let them start early. We also came back from overseas, and at some poi ...

Artie, given you have a daughter and a son both born near the end of the year, do you see a large difference between their development compared with their class as they grow? I heard that boys mature 1-2 years later then girls, and therefore it is better to defer boys a year if the chance is available...

jolalee

ncjkbb 發表於 15-2-4 21:45
My kid is a year-end baby, he is still not yet talk too much in his class amongst the same year kids ...

I was rereading your opening post and realized you were also asking:
"Will there be big difference of big b & small b in speaking English by the age?"

The answer also depend on how many languages is the child acquiring at the same time. Given my son was absorbing mainly one core language (English) between 10 months to 2.5 years of age, he was able to speak in complete sentences by age 2 and had an extensive vocabulary going into all K1 & K2 interviews (however he did much better for K2 interviews due to health and emotional maturity).

FYI, it is true that children can acquire several languages at once, but between age 0 to 6 it does deter the speed of acquisition. This means that a child around 2-3 years old (right around the age when the interviews are taking place) who is exposed to 50% English and 50% Chinese will speak slower than one learning just one core language. Note too that usually girls do acquire language faster then boys, but it does depend on the child as well. By age 6 the difference levels out, but by then all interviews are over   

For kids born near the end of the year, the competition is even more fierce and therefore i recommend nailing one core language first for a child's development and for interview purposes. Once the child gets in the school of choice, accelerate the 2nd language asap. That's the advantage of being a small B too; by the time he is accepted into a through-train school, he is still young enough to take the window of opportunity to acquire both languages with ease. Once a child passes age 4 it becomes harder and harder to accept a completely new language as a native tongue.

Hope this helps :)

貝珠

Thanks for your sharing. I totally agree with your strategy. For me, it is hard to implement as the core caretakers are mandarin speaking. My husband resisted to talk to baby in English （ mainly in Cantonese ) and only me speak with her in English now. My girls is August bb and the only way we can do is putting my girl in eng playgroup in longer hours during weekdays.

sharons

我家兩小孩也是10月尾細B，大囡去年面試時已發現跟大、中B有明顯分別，尤其體能及社交，8月開學後發現不足三歲的她差不多是班中最小的，雖說lS比較主流已包容多，但學校還是會比壓力的，沒有人比我更清楚女兒情況，早跟老師說過女兒可能需要約三，四個月甚至一個學期去適應，如我所料，足三歲後情況大有改善，也差不多一個學期了，但跟班中大B比較還是有落差的

今年輪到又是細B的兒子去面試，龍B競爭更激烈，同埸發現其他小孩無論個子或表現都比較成熟及出色，最明顯分別係細B的他根本"不懂適時表現"及說話能力，而我又不是虎媽就隨他做回自己吧，明白男孩子發展比女孩更慢，可以重來會選擇遲一年入學

sharons

不知道是現在香港小孩都較早熟還是小女發展太慢, 話說最近帶女兒去上中文班, 下課後老師話女兒表現比較BB, 後來才知道女兒原來就只39個月大, 因為女兒個子比同齡高大, 還以為她沒5歲也最少4歲呢, 所以細B確係蝕底點  

jolalee

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最慘係，12月B defer 一年還說得過。10月11月份的孩子，如果defer一年，便給人感覺"跟不上"才要defer...

jolalee

貝珠 發表於 15-2-10 10:22
Thanks for your sharing. I totally agree with your strategy. For me, it is hard to implement as the  ...

Wow, so she is acquiring THREE languages at the same time at home? (okay, technically 2, as Canto & Mando are just different dialects...) I am glad you've got a girl and that she is born in August and not Nov/Dec. Well, i guest you  should target schools that accept kids born Jan-Dec and not Sept-Aug.

Given the uniqueness of your situation, i guess you have advantage over bilingual / trilingual IS such as SIS, ISF & Victoria. These schools favor and test children's fluency in multiple languages. CIS & YCIS on the other hand favor ONE core language. Most other IS favor native English.