Can schools influence student characters? 拔尖vs補底：如何選校？

Ruby1219

they dont use German curriculum,  they follow the UK system.  i think IB is a great curriculum,  but very challenging and not every kid would be good at it.  take my son as an example,  he is a very Science-biased student,  therefore he might not be able to excel in IB. but i bet he can do well in A level.  therefore we are sending him to UK for Al level study instead (one of the reason why we opt for UK school for him)

Jane1983

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想問吓Gsis的中文課程怎樣？每天都有中文堂嗎？語言方面，會否英文最重要，second language系德語、法語，中文系第三？

Ruby1219

their first language is English,  then German. Chinese and French are third languages u can choose either one in secondary.  

they only start having chinese lesson from primary 4, and of course no chinese lesson every day la,  not even in secondary!

shadeslayer

原帖由 Ruby1219 於 14-06-13 發表
their first language is English,  then German. Chinese and French are third languages u can choose e ...

But the number of hours in German and Chinese is similar.  And there is a near native class for Chinese mainly for kids transfer from local schools.   So depends on the child.

shadeslayer

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Xxxxx

Of course,  that is why there are interviews and probation.   The employer/schools definitely have influence in choosing what kind of empliyees and teachers.

Ruby1219

my son entered the set 1 class for chinese in year 7, 9x% of his chinese classmates are from local elite school.  he found the chinese very challenging while his classmates found it easy.  they were using primary 4 textbook from Beijing.  then in year 8, the school separated the set 1 class into 2, my son was being downgraded to the second class

jolalee

So i suppose for a family where studying Chinese in school is somewhat important (but not important enough to send the child into a rote learning education system), I guess GSIS primary is not a good choice? Perhaps going to another top school and if the child is bright enough, transfer to GSIS in secondary school if the family is somewhat interested in GSIS (but not interested enough to give up learning Chinese in school altogether)? This is a bit off topic but definitely interesting piece of info! thx!  Must all kids learn German in GSIS secondary -- int'l stream? Is it possible to pick up from scratch at Year 7?

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jolalee

Ruby1219 發表於 14-6-13 07:43
they dont use German curriculum,  they follow the UK system.  i think IB is a great curriculum,  but ...

Ruby you have a very interesting example here.

Your son is the quiet, introverted type but you picked RC, one of the freest IS in terms of the curriculum for him to beginning his primary school education (or earlier). Then upon moving after P3 you tried CDNIS & ESF (both are basically full IB) and he got into GSIS (UK system) in the end. Sounds like fate at work! ;)

If the Einstein-not-speaking-until-age-3 rumor is true, then we can suppose the introverted kids usually excel in science / math (subjects with definitely answers) whereas the chatty ones do well in the arts subjects (subjects with open-ended answers) -- Yes, this is a subject for debate ;)

May i conclude that in the beginning you tend to balance his character out a bit, but in the end he went into a school that suits his character and learning style better? Would you choose the same path for him in hind sight?

Given my child has poor concentration and is all over the place (for now, but he has improved a lot), would a stricter International School, say one with the UK curriculum, be better as a starting point and then transfer him to IB later on? (Of course this is all theoretical as we all know in HK it's the schools that choose the students most of the time)

Ruby1219

u are right that it is fate at work!!  
i did not think or plan much (comparing to. nowadays HK parents)  when picking schools for my son.  
first,  i picked international school for him was because I despise the local education.  i myself was one of the victims (although i was also regarded as an elite) that i did not enjoy my education and i did not have confidence in myself.  
i wanted my son to be happy and enjoy learning.  and i dont want to spend days and nights helping him on homework and exams (and i didnt have the time as i was at the hardworking mode in my career at that time),  that's why i had no choice but to choose international school.  
then,  among international schools we did not have many choices too.  we only applied for schools in Kln and NT which did not require debentures (we were not that well off at that time),  so we only applied for ESF and RC and ICS).

in fact,  i was not conscious about whether it is IB or A Level at that time,  as it was too early to judge in primary school stage whether the kid would excel in which curriculum.   and,  as said before,  i thought my son is quite flexible type that he can comply to whichever curriculum.  furthermore,  we do not have high expection on his academic performance so curriculum is not a major issue to us.

Radiomama

To my understanding, GSIS offers IB program in secondary school now, right? But the students would also take IGCSE for their own good.

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原帖由 Ruby1219 於 14-06-13 發表
u are right that it is fate at work!!  
i did not think or plan much (comparing to. nowadays HK pare ...

Thanks for sharing .

Ruby1219

gsis is now doing gcse then IB, apply to all students

shadeslayer

原帖由 jolalee 於 14-06-13 發表
So i suppose for a family where studying Chinese in school is somewhat important (but not important  ...

I tend to choose the best all round education for my child other than the average Chinese being x% better.

Ruby1219

原帖由 jolalee 於 14-06-13 發表
So i suppose for a family where studying Chinese in school is somewhat important (but not important  ...

they add one class by year 7. so,  your assumption is viable,  u can go to other schools for primary,  then apply gsis for year 7, but u have to be very strong academically and in english.  german is compulsory in secondary school,  many new kids start German from scratch in year 7 but they are doing fine,  of course u cant expect them to go to set 1 class in such case.

jolalee

shadeslayer 發表於 14-6-13 22:11
I tend to choose the best all round education for my child other than the average Chinese being x% b ...

I'd agree for secondary we should choose a school with the best all round education (whatever that means for each family / individual child). For primary, however, I personally would choose an 8 point IS with decent Chinese over a 9 point IS with little Chinese. Of course, schools that emphasize rote learning with lots if homework is out of the question, or one that is way too weak academically. I guess this is when personal preference comes in.

ahhaahha

原帖由 Ruby1219 於 14-06-13 發表
u are right that it is fate at work!!  
i did not think or plan much (comparing to. nowadays HK pare ...

thank you for your sharing, I think the same here!

and it has been a very good post!

sharons

Ruby1219 發表於 14-6-13 15:39
u are right that it is fate at work!!  
i did not think or plan much (comparing to. nowadays HK pare ...

可分享RC 跟 GSIS 的主要分別嗎? 小孩現在GSlS快樂嗎？傳聞說GSlS重學術成績，算比較谷的lS，妳同意嗎？

Ruby1219

其實我吾係好理阿仔的功課，加上佢響RC 只讀咗兩年， 仲要係初小，and已經係6-8年前既RC...所以我諗我吾係好比較到，我既comments未必可靠。
我可以講到表面既分別係， RC 中文generally 應該強d,  每日有，用繁體字。若果中學入到GSIS set1 中文就可能強過RC 既average 程度。  英文同其他語文應該GSIS 強d.  GSIS 規定要學德文再加一個3rd lanuage (中文或法文).  阿仔一轉咗入GSIS 就話GSIS 程度高d,  尤其是數學。 佢本來响RC 時都好開心無怨言，但去到GSIS 就話其實之前响RC 上堂有d 悶， 尤其數學。 仲有係RC 係thru train IB, GSIS 係Gcse then IB. 注意佢既IB 係2015先開始。 亦因為咁好多而家高中既學生都會走，因為吾想做白老鼠。
至於谷吾谷，我會話GSIS 好acdemic,  吾注重ECA, 無乜sports games,  但我諗比起local schools,  我個仔讀得一d 都吾辛苦，甚至好輕鬆。 even 比起我朋友個仔讀CIS, 我個仔都好似無咁多功課同projects.  佢好鍾意GSIS, 尤其是一齊讀書6年既同學。不過呢兩年GSIS既老師同氣氛差咗。
重申，因為我個仔無讀過local school,  同埋我吾係好參與佢既學校功課同生活， 所以我未必好答到你既問題。

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原帖由 sharons 於 14-06-15 發表
可分享RC 跟 GSIS 的主要分別嗎? 小孩現在GSlS快樂嗎？傳聞說GSlS重學術成績，算比較谷的lS，妳同意嗎？ ...

GSIS 過去幾十年來都是以學術超卓見稱！