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發表於 14-3-23 20:15 |只看該作者
Stillgood2 發表於 14-3-23 20:04
個人有一個想法.  投行的人極之聰明. 特別係數學程式.
衍生工具的運用, 係有極之微細的誤差出現.
以一般情 ...
投行掙錢和有成功感,應是做deal maker。至於投資方程,不是一個人可完成,亦有風險管理部門和審計部門監控。

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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-3-23 20:15
投行掙錢和有成功感,應是做deal maker。至於投資方程,不是一個人可完成,亦有風險管理部門和審計部門監控 ...
理論上是.
實際係唔係.

椐稱, 利森輸掉霸夌銀行時, 一. 可避過內部監察, 二. 投行內, 勝者為王. 當個別dealer表現出色, 話事能力都大得多.

二十多年未見船民了。今天,電視新聞又再見緬甸有難民坐船出海逃難。

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發表於 14-3-23 21:53 |只看該作者
回覆 Stillgood2 的帖子

In order for what you said to be true, one has to operate under the assumption that risks can indeed be calculated.  All these calculations and risk models give people a false sense of security.  Reality is these models are all flawed in one way or another.  Risks need to be "managed" but to believe that one can "calculate" risks and be protected is a flawed idea.
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 14-3-23 21:57 |只看該作者
回覆 Tommy 的帖子

We need to separate the social functions of ibanks with their culture.  They do serve useful functions and some people deserve to be paid a lot for the value they generate.  The culture is abhorrent though.  Question is how can an institution serve the same functions without such a "greedy" culture?
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 14-3-24 01:09 |只看該作者
和小兒談將來的職業, 只希望他盡力發揮自己, 為世界作貢獻。

不談賺錢, 輸錢, 呃人...
今見大部份精英中的精英也是投身iBank, 真的很想理解他們正在作什麼。

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發表於 14-3-24 01:39 |只看該作者
Fortress 發表於 14-3-24 01:09
和小兒談將來的職業, 只希望他盡力發揮自己, 為世界作貢獻。

不談賺錢, 輸錢, 呃人...
做下 intern 咪知。
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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發表於 14-3-24 09:26 |只看該作者
shadeslayer 發表於 14-3-24 01:39
做下 intern 咪知。
合理,不過競爭好大,不是你想就有。
最近請教過銀行家朋友,入外資銀行.投行是否神科有着數,他們異口同聲說No,他們笑說自己都不是。但他們說那間本港大學畢業就有分別,例如香港請MT,只請三大,成績要Top 2-1 及以上,其他大學原則上不考慮。大部份MT反而是海外畢業,當然是知名大學。
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 14-3-24 09:31 |只看該作者
Fortress 發表於 14-3-24 01:09
和小兒談將來的職業, 只希望他盡力發揮自己, 為世界作貢獻。

不談賺錢, 輸錢, 呃人...
十年河東,十年河西!
自金融海潚之後,大部份尖子又轉回傳統專業,例如醫科,法律及會計,而非投行!
最近工程.電腦都翻生,收生成績及畢業後起薪點都上升緊。

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 14-3-24 09:33 |只看該作者
Stillgood2 發表於 14-3-23 20:28
理論上是.
實際係唔係.
你講的是以前,近年似 Chichipapa 描述多些!
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 14-3-24 09:48 |只看該作者
回覆 awah112 的帖子

insider trading will be prosecuted.

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發表於 14-3-24 13:24 |只看該作者
回覆 ANChan59 的帖子

尤其你有內地高層人脈,你讀什麽大學專業,都不是特别重要了。

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發表於 14-3-24 13:27 |只看該作者
yiyiyima 發表於 14-3-24 13:24
回覆 ANChan59 的帖子

尤其你有內地高層人脈,你讀什麽大學專業,都不是特别重要了。 ...
正是
上海自由貿易區 ......
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 14-3-24 13:35 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 MrBeast 於 14-3-24 13:42 編輯

回覆 Fortress 的帖子

Ibank 也有不同部門and hence 不同的工種,但正如你所說,入面有不少精英,和一些叻人共事自然會學到野,不單是技術上,還有一些處理問題的方法。downside lei, 可能會long working hrs, underperform or when the biz is down 時要抄人會好現實.
Ps - high flyers can enjoy a fast track career path.

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發表於 14-3-24 15:14 |只看該作者
回覆 MrBeast 的帖子

Agreed.  A career at iBanks, as well as in consulting, is definitely "up or out".

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發表於 14-3-24 15:21 |只看該作者
回覆 honeybunny7 的帖子

Agree.
Consulting is another challenging and interesting industry for freshmen.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 14-3-24 15:34 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 honeybunny7 於 14-3-24 15:35 編輯

The title of this thread "讀神科,入iBank" is very interesting, in that there is something called "神科".  What are they?  Why are they "God-like" or "miraculous"?

It also reminds me of some of me and my friends' alumni interview experiences.  In one particular case, after discussing with the applicant his desired career path, I asked him why he chose biochem over engineering, and he told me that in HK most people consider engineering majors those who could not get into competitive majors, and biochem major was considered as being more competitive.  Regardless of whether or not his statement was factual, I was appalled at how he was so honest (maybe a bit too honest) in telling me that his choice was a result of what other HK people think, instead of a reflection of his personal interests.  It was sad...  

It is always true that when you are talking to someone who's truly passionate about his/her chosen path, the person would shine in your eyes, regardless of what path he/she chooses, and it then becomes so easy to write a stellar recommendation for that kid.  On the other hand, it's so easy to spot those who are lost, because no matter how long the interview was, they could never sell you a solid story to tell the admission committee.  Not to mention those Mainlanders who fake interest in Environmental Studies with the intention to switch to business school once accepted...  


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ANChan59 發表於 14-3-24 09:31
十年河東,十年河西!
自金融海潚之後,大部份尖子又轉回傳統專業,例如醫科,法律及會計,而非投行!
最近 ...
"十年河東,十年河西!" 好!但若不放眼全球,難已!

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honeybunny7 發表於 14-3-24 15:34
The title of this thread "讀神科,入iBank" is very interesting, in that there is something called "神 ...
大部份人爭的學校叫神校,那大部份人爭大學課程,叫神科吧


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