ESF New Admissions Policy @ RTHK 3 and Apple Daily

Choisumwong

There is no one to be blamed. Look forward, be realistic and accept the trend because Hong Kong people become minority in China. If you do not accept the truth, you can vote 'on foot' only.

Shrimpiggy

原帖由 Choisumwong 於 13-02-05 發表
There is no one to be blamed. Look forward, be realistic and accept the trend because Hong Kong peop ...

yes. be positive to face the change!

FattyDaddy

Shrimpiggy 發表於 13-2-5 21:30
what we should blame for ? our government?  ourselves? or what?...

I don't want to go off topic so I'll be brief.

The blame lies first in the HK government for giving up immigration control, and ultimately in the China government for creating a barbaric society. Why would mainland Chinese want to go to HK (and Australia and Germany and UK etc) to buy infant milk powder if their own products aren't laced with melamine.

konimama

Well said. There's loads here in the real world.
Be broaden your eyes please, everyone

Shrimpiggy

we have the obligation to show a high standard to them but not discrimating anyone!

md23

You guys are talking about two totally different groups of mainlanders. One, the so called "elite" group, are mostly educated overseas at some point in their life, college, post-graduate degree, live and work a few years overseas before returning to China. They choose to work in HK because they don't want to live in mainland. The other group primarily got rich from doing business (legal or illegal) in China and they wish for a better education for their children than what's available in China.

These two are not comparable.

LOVELYABB

Are there that many "type 2" mainlanders at esf?  Or other IS? Just curious

md23

LOVELYABB 發表於 13-2-6 09:20
Are there that many "type 2" mainlanders at esf?  Or other IS? Just curious

Usually they are categorized as cat 1. Because they don't speak much Cantonese or at least Cantonese is not their first two languages. On the ESF application form, one only needs to list his first two languages, Mandarin and English for them. So getting rid of the Cat system helps Cantonese speakers who also speak good English. For others, it is not as clear cut. For Cantonese speakers who do not speak good English, they don't stand much chance in either system. For mainlanders who do not speak English well and parents speaking other languages (Japanese, French, etc), the new system definitely diminishes their chance. For mainlanders who speaks English well and native English speakers, they are also worse off because they will face more competition from Cantonese families.

md23

LOVELYABB 發表於 13-2-6 09:20
Are there that many "type 2" mainlanders at esf?  Or other IS? Just curious

Sorry, misunderstand your question earlier. Not many at ESF from what I heard. After all, most IS in HK are not boarding schools.

HKTHK

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That's too bad but most of the mainlanders I ran into at school are educated and lived abroad at some point in time.  They are quite westernized and no different than any professionals that one would run into at a work setting.  They are also very focused on their kids' education since their mother tend to be stay-at-home while the father spend the work week in China.  In all honesty, I would rather have them as my kids' classmates than some of the spoiled brats from HK.

mouton

HKTHK 發表於 13-2-6 10:48
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That's too bad but most of the mainlanders I ran into at school are educated an ...

Same experience here, I met those parents and kids (PRC immigrants) on golf course, they are well educated and polite.  Kids speak fluent English and play golf very well, single digit handicap! Crazy!

adrjoc

Dear manstap,
It’s not my fault that my parents have money, it’s also not my fault that I can’t spell it’s exactly the reason why I want to go international schools because I want to learn better English ! Why should I be denied the right to this education? Why is that you don’t want your kids to be in the same school with me only because I was born in China? Why are you discriminating against your own race????

crystalpui

即係家長唔好英文, ESF就無機會了.....

hhy2007

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You really don't have to call mainland Chinese parents as Chi na parents.

hhy2007

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Sorry for my misunderstanding.

corgihk

Guess we dont need to be too sensitive, though we hate them more everyday.
Understand why we think this name connect to them too hahahha

adrjoc

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Don’t worry; I don’t think any of the international schools in HK will give me a place only because my parents have the money. Like any other HK kid I am sure I have to go through interviews.

The fact that my level of English is not considered to be up to standard and may pull down the average grades of the school shouldn’t be the primary concerns of the schools and teachers alike. Educators are meant  to put  the best interests of the children in their hearts not the “best grades” of the school, every child is entitled to quality education regardless of color of skin, place of birth, rich or poor ….……

If one day your kid goes to UK for education and a UK mum telling you “get out of here, don’t grab resources from our local UK parents, you speak poor English”
How would you feel?