李寶椿聯合世界書院 IBDP 2012 成績

ivankan

thanks a lot

bobbycheung

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"However, the number of scholarships granted to a college's students may not necessarily reflect that the college is the best. It is only one of the indicators."

Some people might say one of the other "indicators" is the universities the graduates go to.  Judging by this criteria, I think CIS did better than LPC for 2011/2012.  (By the way, my family has no connection with either CIS or LPC. I make the statement based on the information available on the 2 schools' websites)


"No doubt, IPCUWC is the best, if not the second, IB college in Hong Kong as at today."

To me, the best school is not the one that has the best academic results or the most scholarship or whatever.  Rather, it is the one that brings out the best in the students. If it could help the students to achieve their full potential, then I would call it the best school.

ivankan

good point!!!!!!!

Shootastar

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"Some people might say one of the other "indicators" is the universities the graduates go to.  Judging by this criteria, I think CIS did better than LPC for 2011/2012.  (By the way, my family has no connection with either CIS or LPC. I make the statement based on the information available on the 2 schools' websites) "

I agree that one of the indicators is the college placements of a school. Arguably, CIS might did better then LPCWUC in 2011 as far as college placements are concerned. However, if we look at fhe figures for the last 5 years, I have the impression that LPCUWC is still better than CIS on college placements.

"No doubt, IPCUWC is the best, if not the second, IB college in Hong Kong as at today."

I share with you the philosophy that the best school is not the one that has the best academic results or the number of scholarships its students have or whatever. If we have to compare different schools, we have to compare a number of common indicators and add the marks of each indicators before we can come to a conclusion.

To me I would measure a school by

(1) the examination results;
(2) the college placements;
(3) the training it provides to the students;
(4) the admission percentage;
(5) its school philosphy on education and whether it can deliver according to its philosophy;
(6) the recognition by well known or elite colleges around the world;
(7) the equipments, facilities, services provided by the school;
(8) the scholarships its students obtain each year;
(9) the faculty and student ratio;
(10) cultural exchange experience provided to the students.

Having summed up the above factors, my personal view is LPCUWC could help the students to stretch their potentials to their limits and provide them an experience of international horizon, which allow them to fly in the future. That is why I said "No doubt, LPCUWC is the best, if not the second, IB college in Hong Kong as at today."

Lastly, I have to declare my interest that I have no kids who studied, study or will study in LPCUWC.

bobbycheung

I note that a number of LPC students go to the really top US colleges.  I wonder how many of them are actually HK students or are they mostly from overseas?

ANChan59

bobbycheung 發表於 12-9-18 13:02
I note that a number of LPC students go to the really top US colleges.  I wonder how many of them ar ...

知我都唔敢答。

ivankan

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http://www.lpcuwc.edu.hk/uploads/2004-2012_comparison_in_IB_Results.pdf
49 LOCAL STUDENTS

72 OVERSEA STUDENTS

CHAN-2

"幸好ANChan59你的兒子入不到LPCUWC！！！.留在ＤＢＳ讀IBDP！！！
真幸運.下年ＤＢＳ一定是全港第一・有可能是全球第―！！！恭喜。恭喜！！！！"
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如果LPCUWC在各方面條件都好好，收生又嚴選尖子，IB results 卻無法超越ＤＢＳ，何解？
既然LPCUWC遴選過程是精心設計的，如果入唔到LPCUWC，卻能夠在ＤＢＳ取得佳績，那只能說明ＤＢＳ是較高增值的。否則，那裡出了問題？

ivankan

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我都説下年ＤＢＳ一定是全港第一・有可能是全球第―！！！！

bobbycheung

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ANChan59,

So you are saying they are mostly from overseas.  Right?
(唔好以為唔答就無事, 有時唔答都會死. 係比我害死. )

bobbycheung

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Thanks, ivankan.  I know HK students' average score is a lot higher than the overseas students'.  But when it comes to US colleges, the admission officers look at many factors in addition to the academic results.  So I am just wondering what the real situation is like there.  

Shootastar

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"如果LPCUWC在各方面條件都好好，收生又嚴選尖子，IB results 卻無法超越ＤＢＳ，何解？"

For the time being LPCUWC is still better than DBS as far as IB results are concerned. However I am not surporsed that DBS may overcome LPC or become No.1 in the world next year. Why? It is because of its class size. DBS has about 35 students in the class and LPC has about 120 students. If the sample is larger, it is difficult to pull up the average by a small portion. However, if the class size is small, an increase of two to three students of IB 44 or 45 would make the average higher.


"既然LPCUWC遴選過程是精心設計的，如果入唔到LPCUWC，卻能夠在ＤＢＳ取得佳績，那只能說明ＤＢＳ是較高增值的。否則，那裡出了問題?

If we consider the IB results only, I agree that DBS might have an apparent increase in the average of IB scores next year. No doubt, DBS is one of the top IB schools in Hong Kong. However, if we want to compare DBS with LPCUWC, I think we need to compare the 10 indicators I mentioned in the previous post. If we compare all the indicators, I would choose LPCUWC as the best IB school although its average IB result may be a little bit lower than DBS next year.

ANChan59

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Base on your indicators, I will write up some observations in my blog.
Here, parents are too sensitive.......

ANChan59

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Listen to the unheard...

CHAN-2

Thanks for your patient reply and analysis.

bobbycheung

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Stop laughing!  Or else I would be listening to the dead.

ANChan59

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Shootastar

I agreed with your first comment, it's sensible and true. The best IB college in UK is a girl school and also student number less than 50. That's the limitation of DSS and nothing to do with DBS and other DSS.
For the second comment, it's more complicated. As you said more students from overseas, they are much easier to get into their local elite universities and much easier to get scholarships. Other considerations of those indicators:
1. History of the IB school, how can you compare a brand new IB college with a 18+ years established UWC;
2. Value and number of scholarships, US$2,000 vs US$50,000;
3. Number of overseas students....
4. Placements also interlinked with history of the colleges.
5. Co-edu vs boys.....
6. Difficult to compare philosophy and mission among schools
.......

I always enjoy to discuss and share with you, your views always enlighten me.

ANChan59

ANChan59

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Add one more point, DBS and SPCC have Pre-IB and really help students to tune in IB learning method, even not taking MYP in middle school.

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