文憑試數學科（必修部分）的深度

eviepa

分淸楚，成績通脹是一件事，內容深淺是另一件事。HKAL 比 GCE A深是多讀一年乃是不爭的事實，不要高估香港學生的能力，包括考試能力。

BKEKPK,

我不明白，是否英國學生考AL時是18歲，而香港學生則是19歲，所以香港學生多讀一年，有多一年的優勢？

eviepa

BKEKPK,

我不明白，是否英國學生考AL時是18歲，而香港學生則是19歲，所以香港學生多讀一年，有多一年的優勢？

BKEKPK 這麼快就被封戶，不知干犯何罪。有誰可以回答我這問題？

雙儿

原帖由 eviepa 於 11-5-18 21:42 發表


BKEKPK 這麼快就被封戶，不知干犯何罪。有誰可以回答我這問題？

「唔怕生壞命，......」

eviepa

Really  PK

ANChan59

When compare HKAL vs GCE AL, most prople think HKAL more advance than GCE AL. If we look at the issue from different angle may have different conclusion.

In UCAS (similar to JUPAS), they will validate and accredit our HKAL and or HKDSE and validate it equivalent to GCE AL, which is the benchmark in UK. I guess initially HKAL and GCE AL were comparable, but from time to time, GCE AL may changed their syllabus (or assessment method). If HKAL didn't request for revalidation, as GCE AL going down or our AL going up, that create the gap.

I read the UCAS - international exam tariff table, HKEAA need to pay to validate HKDSE how to equivalent to GCE AL.

In return, JUPAS/HKEAA can request GCE AL to validate with HKDSE (We assume it's our benchmark). We can upgrade or downgrade GCE AL standard. If JUPAS/HKEAA didn't do that properly, the misalignment will carry on for years. I won't say it's fair or not, I would say civil servants not follow through the receiprocal recognition closely.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-5-19 13:11 編輯 ]

ANChan59

原帖由 ha8mo 於 11-5-19 12:17 發表
What does UCAS validate, the syllabus or th ...

I guess both and also included teaching method, quality assurance, assessment method..........

http://www.ucas.ac.uk/students/ucas_tariff/factsheet/hkdip

Expert report

http://www.ucas.ac.uk/documents/tariff/tariff_reports/hkdipreport.pdf

ANChan59

ha8mo

I am so glad you read the expert report, parents in HK also like spoon feed and or fast food hearsays. Your hardwork is appreiated.

I read the expert report years ago, I start to think about IB and not NSS, M2 > M1, HKDSE close to HKAL and not HKCEE.

I wish you agreed with my point, parents don't just say the standard of GCE AL lower than HKDSE. Our HKEAA can take the inititative to grade or validate other's standard equivalent to our HKDSE right from the beginning.

Also UCAS consider both local and international grades, why we still using JUPAS & non-JUPAS.... We need transparency in both systems.....

ANChan59

ANChan59

eviepa

I am not hijack your topic, just provide more angles to widen your view on HKDSE.......

I strongly recommend parents to read the expert report and not just listen to HKEAA or the hearsays in BK.

HKDSE has so many hidden shortcomings and will surface more in coming months. I know some of them but won't discuss here.

ANChan59

ANChan59

I am not upset by the universities, we picked IB and play by the rule. I just comment on medicine only, CUHK needs 40-42 excluded bonus point, HKU 39-42 for interview. Cambridge only needs 38 included bouns for apitude test and interview.

We need to think about backup plan for just in case. My son is comfortable about different scenario.

Some programs of Oxford and Cambridge are using apitude tests to screen the 3As students and then interview by different college.

HKCAAVQ is responsible for academic accreditation.

cow

原帖由 ha8mo 於 11-5-19 12:17 發表
The syllabus and the examination are different things. The syllabus can be very similar but the difficulty of questions set in exam can be quite different.

Agree. When I took the HKAL and GCEAL years ago, their syllabi were almost the same. The HKAL Pure Maths was much more difficult thatn GCE Pure Maths. All my CGE AL grades were 3 grades higher than my HKAL.

My plan is let my son to take both HKDSE and GCE AL if possible.

ANChan59

原帖由 cow 於 11-5-20 10:34 發表

Agree. When I took the HKAL and GCEAL years ago, their syllabi were almost the same. The HKAL Pure Maths was much more difficult thatn GCE Pure Maths. All my CGE AL grades were 3 grades higher than m ...

A quick question, I assume you got into university, but based on your HKAL or GCE AL?

My case was based on HKAL and not GCE AL..... GCE AL results only made me feel good only.

Now no more HKAL soon, HKDSE is the key, read the expert report, may be more beneficial to your son. He can still take the GCE AL as back up.

cow

I have passed all HKAL subjects (you may know the grades range of my HKAL and GCE results). It was impossible for such a HKAL result to enter CUHK or HKU or any other normal degree courses in HK at that time. My GCE result was also useless in HK.

GCE has been upgraded nowadays in HK. A report shows that the requirement for CUHK Law degree was 'BBB' in GCE AL and later increased to 'ABB', now it should be higher. I know a student got conditiional offer and later entering CUHK to study a Language degree with the requirement of 'CCC' only.

ANChan59

HKALE Grades Admission Figures
                       UE CLC AL-1 AL-2 AL-3
75th Percentile A   B    A      C C           
50th Percentile C   C    A     A  C           
25th Percentile B   B    A     C C

2010 CUHK Law admission grade

Using GCE AL ABB results, I am not sure. But UE and interview may be the key difference. I mean the HK students like most civil servant's kids, study high school in UK and take the AL and then back to HK. Their interview performance may be better than local students.