劍鳴......好失望

nicolandavy

樓主 得罪講句 我見你寫的英文都有些文法錯誤呢

正如上面家長提及 當時校方都願意叫net跟你的女兒面試 只是你閣下拒絕了 咁而家因為面試時大家言語不通就令樓主你在bk內大嘆對此校失望 又未免太過激動 你咁樣一講真係俾你嚇一嚇的

charlotte2008

I did not intend to say anything harmful to the kinder indeed. I am not 激動.....I just wanted to express my feeling after the interview.... I believe Keen Mind is a good kinder indeed as I've heard the same from many ppl.

Sorrry that I can't type Chinese and I'd not done any spelling and grammatical checking with my quick Eng typing...
Though I use Eng daily with my gal and I type Eng here, I dun say my Eng is 100% correct.........even for the real native speaker......

shootingstar

可能老師對自己的英文水平無信心, 無謂在家長面前出醜嘛.

elmolly

well, I don't mean to offend, but even the English level of some u-grads are terrible, speaking in particular.

as a kg teacher, as long as he/she is caring, loving, patient and experienced, English level is not my concern except for the NET. from my own experience at KM, I'm happy for their teachers.

if you want your girl to speak Cantonese, just speak to her in Cantonese instead of English, practise makes prefect. it may be worthwhile to take a look at this

http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/thread-3311833-1-2.html

kittyyau

My son also had the interview today, and both he and myself like the KG very much.  

Though I think the chance for my boy is very low, I still think the teachers and even the parents volunteers were very pleasant and professional.  The teacher that interviewed my boy is patient and pleasant.  When she noticed that my boy can understand English better than Chinese, she also spoke the key words in English in her questions.  I don't know if it will affect the marking, but I think it's kind of respect to my boy and I can also see the teacher is really respecting my boy's desire.  When my boy said that he doesn't want to play with the doll, the teacher took the doll away but still with a smile.

My son is a small b, but he also showed his happy face all along the interview process, and told me that he likes this school too.  I really hope I can get an offer from it.

kittyyau

and btw, did the teacher ask your kids to sing a song during the individual interview?

charlotte2008

Thanks.... yes... I do agree that a good kg teacher should be caring, loving, patient ..... maybe, yesterday, that teacher was very tired and not even willing to show her smile or patience.... when we were leaving, my gal was happy to say bye and blow a kiss to the teacher.... the teacher then said.... 佢應該好唔耐煩 (佢係指interview期間)....anyway, 我惟有寄望St. Catherine....

Thanks for yr sharing.

原帖由 elmolly 於 10-11-14 00:53 發表
well, I don't mean to offend, but even the English level of some u-grads are terrible, speaking in particular.

as a kg teacher, as long as he/she is caring, loving, patient and experienced, English l ...

Smallpigbb

其實我有個朋友o既小朋友都係全英文，PN讀KM下午班，因為下午班一定有英文班主任在場，廣東話班主任亦好坦白同我個朋友講佢好少同佢個小朋友交談，因為佢個小朋友喜歡英文班主任多D，但一定避免唔到要學中文字，所以都一定要接觸中文字同教佢講廣東話，所以我個朋友都覺得佢個小朋友返咗學之後廣東話叻咗好多，而且中文字都認到，雖然佢o既廣東話講到好似外國人o甘講，但好有進步。

至於你話個老師叫個NET上嚟interview連小小英文都唔講，我覺得佢可能係唔想o係家長面前表現得唔好領到家長留下一個唔好o既印象，我覺得老師唔會連小小英文都唔識o既，講真我去過D名校interview都唔覺D老師好有heart，但到我D朋友o既小朋友讀，點知道就係in就一回事，到你讀就另外一回事，其實o係o個短短幾分鐘o既問題環節好難見到個老師有無heart。

對我嚟講到依o家我個女已經係K1，雖然都係同一個班主任，我都好滿意，可能我係自己管接管送，o甘好多時都會見到校長主任老師嬸嬸同校務處o既人，大家都好親切，可能因為係細校又係小班，好多無教過我個女o既老師都會認得我個女叫咩名。

講真如果你真係想小朋友讀主流小學，o甘我o念你真係要下多D苦功至得，如果唔係大人同小朋友都辛苦，坦白講如果我個女唔係肯坐定我都唔會簡KM，因為由K1開始已經有功課，PN都有幾頁工作紙。

[ 本帖最後由 Smallpigbb 於 10-11-14 11:05 編輯 ]

bbysh

原帖由 kerkermui 於 10-11-13 21:42 發表
樓主, 我相信KM唔啱你喇!
首先, 你知唔知教KG係d咩人? 有好多係中五都未必pass嘅人, 然後走去讀張cert 去教, 我覺得中文老師唔亂咁响小朋友面前講英文係件好事, 免得教壞細路!
第二, 同上面其他媽媽講嘅一樣, KM好注 ...

Totally agree! The word "teacher" gives you a wrong impression. In HK, even a U-grad. student cannot speak fluent or even simple oral English!!

carcar1234

My son also attended the interview at KM yesterday pm. Overall speaking, the impression is OK. Though I admit that the interviewer (individual session) is not as "pleasant" as parents might expect, I don't mind that as the interviewer has gonethrough a whole day task already.

By the way, it might be usual that they didn't ask parent questions like the reason they choose this school, as those have already been covered in the questionair which parent submit to the school at registration. To me, this arrangement save interview time too.

elmolly

actually, i have repeated my story to many parents, i didn't like KM at all after the interview, teachers showed no heart and no smile and they were like basically like robot.

then my girl was very lucky to get an offer, my hb liked KM over the school we also got offer from, with some other reasons, we picked KM finally. it was totally another story after school started and when i knew more about the teachers, they cared my girl a lot, of of the teachers gave me advice to help my girl adjust to the new school, another one even reminded me it was the last day of school at KM of m girl and sent her blessings through fb, i'm very thankful that we had choosen KM for her.

i don't mean to convince you to "like" KM, but just want to show you interview and real school life is different, though it would be great if the teachers can be as caring and patient during the interview as well.

icbb1230

Sorry to jump in.  But I really don't understand why so many parents use English as a media of communication at home to their kids?  Are the parents all ABC or foreigner?  I believe even though a person back from overseas but not growing up in an English speaking countries, the oral skill and accent will not be the same as foreigner, especially those go to study oversea after Form 3.  If English speaking is a must at home, like mother or father is a foreigner is another story.  If not, why?  I would only teach my daughter when I hear she has a big grammatical error or she adds "la", "ar" at the end of sentence (like sometimes we talk to the PH maid, haha!).  I'd rather leave teaching English to the school NET teacher or a tutor of my daughter who is a foreigner.

[ 本帖最後由 icbb1230 於 10-11-14 23:46 編輯 ]

kerkermui

原帖由 icbb1230 於 10-11-14 18:21 發表
Sorry to jump in.  But I really don't understand why so many parents use English as a media of communication at home to their kids?  Are the parents all ABC or foreigner?  I believe even though a pers ...

我只可以代表我自己答呢個問題~
作為早教媽媽, 我相信學習語言係有敏感期, 兩歲前學係最好嘅
作為父母, 我教所有我識同覺得啱嘅嘢, 所以我唔會亂講pth, 但係雖然我嘅英文口音唔係native嘅, 但係我相信語言係同嚟溝通嘅, 只要人人明白就得, 口音好係另外一個層次, 讀到純正口音係bonus, 讀唔到係唔會有外國人歧視 (只有自己人會歧視!)
另~ 基於bb响屋企對住工人時間長過對住我地, 所以為免學壞英文, 更加要同佢講多d英文!
唔通~ 作為父母, 覺得自己唔夠完美嘅嘢就唔教小朋友?! 咁仲駛教嘅?! 我要教小朋友能夠响我地生活嘅環境生存, 令佢認識同有能力應付四周接觸到嘅人/事/物

但係好慚愧講句: 雖然佢一年前應付到一個英文面試, 但係嚟緊嗰個.. 實在信心不大, 因為過去一年我有咗老二, 無心機教大仔太多嘢, 變相全力教中文, 可能學日文嘅時間仲多過學英文.. 但係小朋友嘅興趣成日變, 佢要捉住daddy學日文, 我地只可以~跟! (我先生都只係學咗日文4-5年, 相對英文, 日子尚淺~)

[ 本帖最後由 kerkermui 於 10-11-14 23:01 編輯 ]

icbb1230

hi kerkermui,

I don't mean I don't teach or talk to my daughter in English, I read 1 English and 1 Chinese bedtime story to her every night.  Of course, sometimes we do talk in English, but not all the time, English is not the only language of our family.  Therefore, my daughter understands both English and Cantonese.  

What I mean is if the kids can only understand English during interview, so it's meant he/she doesn't "receive" any Cantonese at home.  Again, if 1 of the parents is a foreigner, I can fully understand.  If not, why?  Especially, sometimes I hear terrible English accent is spoken when I walk on the street, in restaurant, playground, etc.  If a person speaks terrible English to a foreigner, I won't have any bad feeling, in reverse, I respect them very much and accent become a normal thing since he/she is not a foreigner or ABC.  However, they are talking to their son/daughter who is Chinese! Why?  I think both Cantonese and English should be a media of communication in Hong Kong.  

I totally agree language learning should be started in very young age, we can let the kids watch English channel, listen and sing English song, play flash card, reading story book, attend English class, etc.  BUT it's not necessarily only speak English to the kids.

If we are Chinese, speaking Cantonese to our kids, what's wrong?

另加: 中文唔駛由細學咩? 學好中文仲難過英文喎.....

[ 本帖最後由 icbb1230 於 10-11-14 23:52 編輯 ]

GHcat

原帖由 icbb1230 於 10-11-14 23:45 發表
hi kerkermui,

I don't mean I don't teach or talk to my daughter in English, I read 1 English and 1 Chinese bedtime story to her every night.  Of course, sometimes we do talk in English, but not all  ...

I agree with icb1230. Not long ago, there was an article on SCMP stating the harm brough about by  Chinese parents communicating with their children in English all the time. One of the reasons is that these parents may not be good at English and their vocabulary is also limited, so the children may not be able to learn well...Besides parents, kids also need to communicate with their relatives and even grand parents who are not English speaking, they will be unable to do so if they are not accustomed in speaking in Chinese.

charlotte2008

講真...無話那种方式對或錯...每个家庭處境不同 , 其實我都想做到我同阿女講英文 , 而daddy就講廣東話 , 這样英文可早學 , 而又識廣東話....但無奈...星期一至五 , C佬都好忙 , 回家時阿女已睡覺 , 但我又不想時中時英 ...令阿覺得好亂 , 點都好啦 , 我會努力教番阿女中文 , 我有信心佢可以追到 , 好多小朋友兩歲都未識說話 .

話時話吖 , 上英文playgroup時 , 身边有很多家長向我講 , 佢哋小朋友未夠兩歲除了英文外 , 更上Spanish , French & PTH班 , 叫我也一齊join....但我也一一婉拒 , 我覺得咁細个仲要學父母也不曉的語言 , 在家或日常生活又接觸唔到 , 效益不會大 , 日後待小女大些 , 我才會鼓勵他多學外語.

我唔介意英文無正宗的accent , 語言係作溝通 , 得罪講句 , 就算做到特首 , 都不是說到像native speaker般 , 只要溝通到 , present到 , 係無問題. 講真就算香港人的中文也是一般 , 包括我自己.

以上只係我个人的意見 , 我唔係想反駁或辯護什么 , 只是分享一下而已

[ 本帖最後由 charlotte2008 於 10-11-15 00:34 編輯 ]

w_y

原帖由 charlotte2008 於 10-11-15 00:20 發表
講真...無話那种方式對或錯...每个家庭處境不同 , 其實我都想做到我同阿女講英文 , 而daddy就講廣東話 , 這样英文可早學 , 而又識廣東話....但無奈...星期一至五 , C佬都好忙 , 回家時阿女已睡覺 , 但我又不想時中時 ...

fishingcat

記得上年見N班, 當日太陽曬嘅慘況, 我恨不得立即走, 會見時老師表情不佳, 對劍嗚感覺非常差勁, 心裡抱怨非常, 但最後竟然收小兒就讀上午班, 由於我覺得小兒未來較自己感受更為重要, 所以讓他一試, 並計劃K1離開.
當小兒就讀時, 全校竟然出現另一番景象, 小兒上學放學時, 老師們笑容滿面, 親切迎人, 小兒很愛上學, 放學後亦很掂念老師, 在家很喜歡唱校歌, 現在小兒最愛的鳥類, 便是貓頭鷹了.
由於N不是直升, 我們逼不得已到處報考K班,
最近投考九龍塘另一私校面試時, 小兒表現活躍和主動, 形狀生果樣樣皆曉, 老師問: 橙橙點食架, 係咪就咁食架(連皮食?) 答: 唔得要切切.
老師再問: 蕉蕉點食架, 係咪就咁食架(連皮食?) 答: 唔得要搣搣. 最後小兒望住老師身後壁報板大聲講: 人字, 山字,日字……等, 老師回身知道小兒在認字, 便問小兒今星期所教的是什麼字? 小兒再答: 月字. 當離開時我才知面試地方是K2課室, 我知道如此比較中文已相距兩年了, 但我深信此校英文程度較佳.
我明白自己英文程度很差, 英文未必滿足得到小兒日後需要, 但至此, 小兒的表現, 作為家長又怎捨得離開這位貓頭鷹博士呢?
直至現在, 我和太太有個心願, 就是希望貓頭鷹繼續成為小兒的守護神!
這個小小經驗, 令我學懂好與壞, 不單只看表面, 有時理念和事物背後才是最重要!
祝樓主找到最心儀的學校!

fishingcat

記得上年見N班, 當日太陽曬嘅慘況, 我恨不得立即走, 會見時老師表情不佳, 對劍嗚感覺非常差勁, 心裡抱怨非常, 最後竟然收小兒就讀上午班, 由於我覺得小兒未來較自己感受更為重要, 所以讓他一試, 並計劃K1離開.
當小兒就讀時, 全校竟然出現另一番景象, 小兒上學放學時, 老師們笑容滿面, 親切迎人, 小兒很愛上學, 放學後亦很掂念老師, 在家很喜歡一起唱校歌, 現在小兒最愛的鳥類, 便是貓頭鷹了.
由於N不是直升, 我們逼不得已到處報考K班,  最近投考九龍塘另一私校面試時, 小兒表現活躍和主動, 形狀生果樣樣皆曉, 老師問: 橙橙點食架, 係咪就咁食架(連皮食?) 答: 唔得要切切.  老師再問: 蕉蕉點食架, 係咪就咁食架(連皮食?) 答: 唔得要搣搣. 最後小兒望住老師身後壁報板大聲講: 人字, 山字,日字……等, 老師回身知道小兒在認字, 便問小兒今星期所教的是什麼字? 小兒再答: 月字. 當離開時我才知面試地方是K2課室, 我知道如此比較中文已相距兩年了.
我明白自己英文程度很差, 英文未必滿足得到小兒日後需要, 但至此, 小兒的表現, 作為家長又怎捨得離開這位貓頭鷹博士呢?  直至現在, 我和太太有個心願, 就是希望貓頭鷹繼續成為小兒的守護神!
這個小小經驗, 令我學懂好與壞, 不能看表面, 有時理念和事物背後才是最重要!
祝樓主找到最心儀的學校!

[ 本帖最後由 fishingcat 於 10-11-15 05:02 編輯 ]