你可以笑我是何不食肉糜，但…

mattsmum

如果是发疯地想，就一定有方法，
德法意等国家是不收学费的，也有朋友是在澳洲半工读而成专业人士。

uncleedward

原帖由 stccmc 於 10-7-25 17:36 發表
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雖然我們常批評香港教育，但香港各方面其實很不錯，包括教育，一些香港大學排名是 世界 Top 50 的常客。

我認為，選科，不應看錢太重，甚至是唯一標準。 有錢，當然好些，多選擇。

Agreed completely. That is why we allowed our daughter to go to university in Hong Kong last year although I wanted her to remain in the US. We also allowed her to read a major other than what we suggested. Personally, I do not believe the major one chooses has anything to do with the amount of money one might make. We suggested law to her only becuase she is cut for studying law: a photographic memory, language skills, people skills and a presentable appearance. But I know only too well from my own experience that the parent is alreadying losing if he has to pursuade his children to do something.

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uncleedward

原帖由 mattsmum 於 10-7-25 21:43 發表
如果是发疯地想，就一定有方法，
德法意等国家是不收学费的，也有朋友是在澳洲半工读而成专业人士。

Agreed.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

uncleedward

原帖由 stccmc 於 10-7-25 17:36 發表
Uncle,

在我來說，外國升學，和買Channel 袋，一樣是慾望無窮，資源有限。如果小朋友渴望一年外游四次見識呢？ 有三名子女呢？升學外遊有錢，但她要求親子父母陪伴呢？唔使搵食麽？

If I could not afford the things you mentioned for my kids, I would not lose a single night's sleep. But I would try hard to avoid the possibility that I could not afford to send my children abroad for university.

Actually, there was more to my story. After my in-law's inspiring words, I immediately said to my daughter, "Take Granny for example. She suffered from cancer and was already in the public hospital system. The cost of hospital bills is basically nothing as you can imagine, but the cost of of the so called new medicine prescribed but off the official list has cost us something like $300K. What if we could not afford this and something bad happened to her. Sadly, sometimes money does not just mean something extra or better or more choices in our life. Sometimes money means something as basic as right to survival."

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judy

原帖由 wunma 於 10-7-26 10:37 發表

兒子曾於中五放榜前問我, 如想入讀李寶椿, 我會否贊成.

當時我對這校一無所知, 立刻上網找資料, 發覺這的確是間好學校, 但學費第一年便要十多萬, 第二年已經要去到二十多萬, 雖說可申請助學金, 但不清楚合資格與 ...

好彩個仔問你，如果係問老豆，老豆可能会大力支持，然後更搏曬老命工作。

提到此"何不食肉糜"問題，富人(有準備的人)一定多出路，唔使講。

但，近年，我也見多了中四、五轉讀另類課程，然後入本地大学個案。例如，有中四成績平平，轉讀另類課程，去年考英國試，然後入本地醫学院。侄仔去年讀醫，他帶出來的情報是大學會盡收中五尖仔，但對AL學生就多多留難，反而偏向另類學生。他認為這是因為大學為提高國际排名之故云云。我認為除了這原因外，如果有錢無勢，就別行此另類之路，正正經經送仔女外國留學好了。

cherubic

In my old days, due to financial constraint, I did not have so many choices.  Therefore, the only way was to work hard in order to get a place in the university.

For my son, he does not understand the problem we faced in my time.  Every time I ask him to work hard, he does not think it is absolutely necessary because he knows that his parents should have arranged everything for him.  I don't know whether it is good or bad to him in the long term.  But I see one problem now - he is more relaxed and not willing to work hard.

judy

原帖由 cherubic 於 10-7-26 12:36 發表
In my old days, due to financial constraint, I did not have so many choices.  Therefore, the only way was to work hard in order to get a place in the university.

For my son, he does not understand th ...

今日am730施永青篇文好正。

uncleedward

原帖由 judy 於 10-7-26 11:21 發表


侄仔去年讀醫，他帶出來的情報是大學會盡收中五尖仔，但對AL學生就多多留難，反而偏向另類學生。他認為這是因為大學為提高國际排名之故云云。

確實如此，據在大學工作的同學說，每類學生皆有預定QUOTA。現時以Non-JUPAS途徑入讀最易，連熱門科目也是如此。如HKU Law就預1/3俾Non JUPAS, HKAL 學生有乜法唔打崩頭。

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samuel89

原帖由 cherubic 於 10-7-26 12:36 發表
For my son, he does not understand the problem we faced in my time.  Every time I ask him to work hard, he does not think it is absolutely necessary because he knows that his parents should have arranged everything for him.  I don't know whether it is good or bad to him in the long term.  But I see one problem now - he is more relaxed and not willing to work hard.

嘩.....你阿仔講出左90後既思路心態....
值得香港家長認真深思一下, 重新思考一下家長是否太有為了....

judy

原帖由 uncleedward 於 10-7-26 14:04 發表
確實如此，據在大學工作的同學說，每類學生皆有預定QUTOTA。現時以Non-JUPAS途徑入讀最易，連熱門科目也是如此。如HKU Law就預1/3俾Non JUPAS, HKAL 學生有乜法唔打崩頭。 ...

此QUTOTA之奇妙在於每個系都不同，總之，總收生不過此QUTOTA就是。

於是乎，越熱門之科目，收另類學生越多。

只於是否"易"入，我越來越覺因人而定。

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uncleedward

原帖由 judy 於 10-7-26 12:50 發表


今日am730施永青篇文好正。

特登找來一看，確是難題。我也曾和女兒討論，可不可以生活過得簡樸一點？但她說周圍的同學朋友都係咁，佢可以點？總不成樣樣與人不同。

記得有一年，我們幾個家長費盡九牛二虎之力才制止了幾個女兒發起的一班同學到半島Chesa 吃聖誕大餐。

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judy

特登找來一看，確是難題。我也曾和女兒討論，可不可以生話過得簡樸一點？但她說周圍的同學朋友都係咁，佢可以點？總不成樣樣與人不同。

記得有一年，我們幾個家長費盡九牛二虎之力才制止了幾個女兒發起的一班同學到半島Chesa  ...

借口！

不過，個個父母都一樣，都會提供超過所需的享受，特別係對啲女。

cherubic

Just read it.  Even 施永青 could not find the solution to this problem.  What can we do?  Talking about holidays, our family have 2-3 times every year (since I really need holidays).  We never join those organized tours.  We are still backpackers and stay in budget hotels.  This seems better because my son learns how to read maps.

I afraid that our next generation will be less competitive, not because of their knowledge, language skill, etc, but because of the attitude.  I am finding way to guide my son, any suggestion?   

原帖由 judy 於 10-7-26 12:50 發表


今日am730施永青篇文好正。

samuel89

原帖由 uncleedward 於 10-7-26 14:29 發表


特登找來一看，確是難題。我也曾和女兒討論，可不可以生活過得簡樸一點？但她說周圍的同學朋友都係咁，佢可以點？總不成樣樣與人不同。

記得有一年，我們幾個家長費盡九牛二虎之力才制止了幾個女兒發起的一班同學到半島Chesa  ...

我覺得不是簡樸一點的問題....有錢的話"豪"d其實是沒有問題的, 問題是90後根本連"錢"的概念都好似"口都"八達通甘, 只系"口都"一聲,就有雪糕食, 就整個香港去邊都得了, 就算環遊全世界都只系簽一個名而已,又有何珍惜的理由.....

uncleedward

原帖由 judy 於 10-7-26 14:37 發表


不過，個個父母都一樣，都會提供超過所需的享受，特別係對啲女。

This happens to be what I strongly believe in. Selfishly, I believe after my daughters know what is best available to them both materially and spiritually(within my means), the chance of them falling in love with so called MK boys exists only academically. If they can appreciate 錢鍾書 & 董橋，我又駛乜驚佢哋暑假出入Newway； 識得分麥奀同何洪記雲吞麫嘅唔同，若要嫁個只負担得得乒乓波雲吞麫的丈夫，我也冇符。純粹一個呷醋外父的心態，Steve Martin跟我比簡直温和得不得了。

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uncleedward

原帖由 wunma 於 10-7-26 11:42 發表


打工仔, 點博命都搵唔到快錢架? 除非向銀行借.

我既睇法, 除非在港讀唔成書, 或肥左科中文, 就賣當借都會供佢地去外國讀, 否則, 在香港讀放心些. ...

That is why careful financial planning is required from the beginning. Hong Kong people have no problem with such planning when it comes to buying the place we live. Acutally, financing our children's overseas studies is still a lot easier than taking out a mortgage loan on a new apartment.

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