代問: st PAUL BOYS VS 英華

CHTmami

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-16 23:14 發表


Good Point!
有幾多個校長會親自in 二千幾人? 無活力點做?

You may not know that SPCPS's principal used to interview the applicants by herself one by one.  YW's principal does interview by herself but it is 1 to 4 or 5.

These two schools are of different classes and styles, can't compare.

Oscarmom

During the final interview Principal Lam did all the interview one by one with the parent.

原帖由 CHTmami 於 09-12-17 08:46 發表


You may not know that SPCPS's principal used to interview the applicants by herself one by one.  YW's principal does interview by herself but it is 1 to 4 or 5.

These two schools are of different c ...

CHTmami

原帖由 Oscarmom 於 09-12-17 10:34 發表
During the final interview Principal Lam did all the interview one by one with the parent.

I'm quite sure every principal will do the final interview by herself or himself.  This is her/his job.  My point is that YW's principal is NOT the only one who does the first interview for all the applicants!

Bilobi

We attended interviews and luckily got offers from both schools. .

YW's principal: attended both first and second round
SP's prinicipal: conducted second round
Anyway, BOTH are very good principals with good knowledge, heart and experience in education.

What I wish to tell is that if you go into the two schools and attended its talks/ registration, you can really feel the difference. Obviously, the teachers (not only the principal) in YW are more enthusiastic and caring. You can feel that they really wish to make the school a better one.

SP organized a parents' talk after release of offers. We went to the talk very excitedly as we're delighted to get the offer and really wished to know more about this school with long good history. However, I can tell when we left the school, we felt quite disappointed and can almost made a decision of putting it to 2nd or 3rd choice. Except those teachers who're "invited" by the principal to present in the talk, ALL teachers left the school. In fact, I think the school might need teachers to help introduce the schools, talk to parents, maintain smooth run of the talk... The presentations were all made in tiring mood without caring about if the audience could hear/ listen/ understand...If they use the same approach in teaching kids, oh!

Anyway, just wish to share what I witnessed and felt in my experience with these schools for BK parents' reference. Trust your own eyes, you can go and get a feel.

Old fashioned words: if you got both offers, it's a pleasant problem to have. Both are good schools!
At the end of the day, parental guidance is also important. I think both schools are rating applications by the whole family rather than by the kid only.

[ 本帖最後由 Bilobi 於 09-12-17 12:51 編輯 ]

childrenfirst

Agreed with you.

其實做好基本資料，去到一個地步，做決定唔係再係compare 學校，係要問自己想點，答唔到呢個問題，再開多100條threads問人都係哂時間。

對下下class來class的形容詞真不敢恭維，呢個世界咁大，山外有山...點至叫做high class? 我有呢2間offers, 唔同style明，唔同class就真係唔明。

原帖由 Bilobi 於 09-12-17 12:45 發表
We attended interviews and luckily got offers from both schools. .

YW's principal: attended both first and second round
SP's prinicipal: conducted second round
Anyway, BOTH are very good principals w ...

mamay

Both are good schools.  I applied both school though only accept by one of them.

I think you can make your choice base on the kid's character.  If he is more quiet, you can choose St Paul Boy.
If he is active, you can choose YW.

smartcar

Don't mix the St Paul Co-ed with the St Paul Boys together.  They are two differents school.

YW is the school with longest history in Hong Kong, 181 years. However, YW is far from blue blooded and works on root.

YW College 's academic result should be at par, if not better, than St Paul Boys'.

Take a close look to their annual reports from their websites, St Paul Boys did not even have result on Web.  Look at Ying Wa, all works are transparent.

For teachers, YWC has 100% degree holder and 40 % with master.

St Paul Boys only has 80% degree holder in secondary school.

I will take SPCC anytime but not SPC.

sunnygirl

其實兩間都係好學校，一於就住九龍新界既讀英華，住香港既就讀st. paul boys。

ukodelechan

原帖由 smartcar 於 09-12-17 14:44 發表
Don't mix the St Paul Co-ed with the St Paul Boys together.  They are two differents school.

YW is the school with longest history in Hong Kong, 181 years. However, YW is far from blue blooded and wo ...

Qouted from Wiki: St. Paul's College (Traditional Chinese: 聖保羅書院) is an Anglican day school for boys in Mid Levels, Hong Kong and is located adjacent to University of Hong Kong. Established in 1851, it is the oldest secondary school there.

While YW established in 1843.

Also, you can say, St. Paul's is not as transparent as YW, but I don't think you should say it is not as good as YW.

chubby2688

Agree

原帖由 sunnygirl 於 09-12-17 15:10 發表
其實兩間都係好學校，一於就住九龍新界既讀英華，住香港既就讀st. paul boys。

Oscarmom

tsl and kts didn't do the final interview by the principal.

原帖由 CHTmami 於 09-12-17 10:45 發表


I'm quite sure every principal will do the final interview by herself or himself.  This is her/his job.  My point is that YW's principal is NOT the only one who does the first interview for all the  ...

mattsmum

sorry, where is the word "class" in 12:45's post?

原帖由 childrenfirst 於 09-12-17 13:39 發表
Agreed with you.

其實做好基本資料，去到一個地步，做決定唔係再係compare 學校，係要問自己想點，答唔到呢個問題，再開多100條threads問人都係哂時間。

對下下class來class的形容詞真不敢恭維，呢個世界咁大，山外有山...點至 ...

mya

原帖由 msli 於 09-12-16 17:07 發表
我會選擇英華，因為聽朋友講無論校長和老師都很熱心，對教育充滿熱誠。另外在學費方面英華比St.Paul Boy平，校舍相對大很多。

可能我識朋友既小朋友係YW讀, 又識朋友以前係個度教書,所以對"校長和老師都很熱心，對教育充滿熱誠"都有所保留!

childrenfirst

not for the post of 12:45, in fact, I agreed with that post.

The "class" comment was referring to the earlier post.

原帖由 mattsmum 於 09-12-17 18:24 發表
sorry, where is the word "class" in 12:45's post?

diversity

原帖由 smartcar 於 09-12-17 14:44 發表
Don't mix the St Paul Co-ed with the St Paul Boys together.  They are two differents school.

YW is the school with longest history in Hong Kong, 181 years. However, YW is far from blue blooded and wo ...

oh yes, yes: 181 years, very precise. from Malacca period   
1818年英國傳教士馬禮遜馬六甲創辦英華書院

I also don't think parents will mix up SPCC & SPC up to this school selection stage. Your worry can be saved I think.

[ 本帖最後由 diversity 於 09-12-18 12:13 編輯 ]

fairparent

SPC boys is the first English speaking school for boys in HK.
Their network and  Alumni are very famous eg. LEGCO the Tsang Bro's, Joseph Yam Chi Kong, Pei Lap Ming the architect etc,.
i think Sam hui is the most famous Alumni of Ying Wa boys?
you can't compare them, St Paul's College have been good since 1851.....
this year a Form 5 boy Wong Hoi Lun got into Cambridge's Trinity College..... and they didn't make massive ads or promote it on their website,
seems SPC boys and the parents are not that pretentious, these new schools will post up any petty award......

原帖由 diversity 於 09-12-17 20:06 發表


oh yes, yes: 181 years, very precise. from Malacca period
1818年英國傳教士馬禮遜馬六甲創辦英華書院

I also don't think parents will mix up SPCC & SPC up to this school selection stage. Your w ...

appletree09

原帖由 CHTmami 於 09-12-17 10:45 發表


I'm quite sure every principal will do the final interview by herself or himself.  This is her/his job.  My point is that YW's principal is NOT the only one who does the first interview for all the  ...

I am afraid Ramondi college primary school principal did not interview the kids at all.

mamay

原帖由 mya 於 09-12-17 18:28 發表


可能我識朋友既小朋友係YW讀, 又識朋友以前係個度教書,所以對"校長和老師都很熱心，對教育充滿熱誠"都有所保留!

Can you explain more?

andrewpapa

As a parent, also as a friend of many teachers.  I strong recommend that not to use their appearence to judge their heart of taking care of the students.

I always share the followings to the parents in BK, you have to

1, understand your children's characteristics: active, quiet, can handle pressure, like to write, etc

2, understand which school your son will not like. I remember I told my son "So Chi" accepted him, he cried and cried.  so I know this school may not suit him.  NOT BECOZ the school is not good, but only my son will not fit this one.

3, the degree of effort that the parents can participate.  Whether you want to be your children all years tuitor? Please ask yourself.

4, Last but not least, don't judge the school based on emotion and rumors.  Do not compare, schools are apple and orange.  Look into each individual issue that you concern the most.  A point I would like to share, most of the school in HK will have many different kinds of exams, tests, homeworks all year round. Take these all as a learning opportunities to your children rather than a torture.  Think about your past and current working situation, we got test almost everyday.

5, No need to compare the secondary school's result at this stage.  That is too far away issue.  Whether your children can grow in these 6 years should be the most important thing in your mind. If he is smart, he can jump to any school he wants.  If he can't perform well enough, you should care about his primary study but not the secondary.

6, Activities or sport issue, is this the most care about things in your mind.  If the school can't offer you the best opportunities, can you find it outside. If you can find it outside, this will not be the main issue on choosing the school.

as many BK parent acknowledgement, i am a traditional father who likes traditional teaching methods.  I am just sharing my view.

I know kids from both schools, whether they can success not only relied on the school, but also the family.

Raise their interest of studys, give them a reason, a target to study

oknsca

andrewpapa