德望學校 squeeze 45 students in a class!!!!!!

spiderlily

wisekid2007,

Please mind your words.  BK provides a platform for idea exchange but not personal attack.

QUOTE
I don't think there will be any stupid parent who will say that a big class is better than a small class.UNQUOTE  --- I am indifferent on this as long as the style of my kid fit into it.  BUT I am not stupid.

This is the reality and GH has proved there is little adverse and material impact of having big class in the past by its demonstrated academic performance track record.  In other words, it has proved the impact is manageable and can be mitigated internally.  I don't get from your any valid and provable point backed demonstrated facts that small class is definitely better than big class.

We may just take GH as a product and there are ample substitute products in the market.  If you find you do not like a particular brand, you are free to change to another brand at minimal transaction costs.  There is nothing wrong with the product.

There are a lot of school providing small class.

GH is not the one and it is definitely not the cup of tea of those prefer small class.

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-11-6 12:35 發表
You are absolutely wrong.

It is absolutely true that small class is better for any types of students.

In fact, your quoted examples exactly illustrated that some students might be less affected by  ...

Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa

Agreed. If someone has difference opinion can feel free to share here or if you think that this topic is nonsense, then you can simply quiet and left the discussion forum, but shouldn't finger pointing or criticize others.

queeniekl

I'm shocked to find so many people here fail to recongize the importance of small class teaching. There are many reasons for GH parents to choose GH for their children but I very much doubt that a "big class" is one of them.  Pupils do need time to think before they are able to answer questions, especially when they are in P1.  It is essential to give them sufficient wait time.  This will help them become more independent learners.  If pupils cannot give appropriate responses because they do not understand the questions, teachers have to rephrase the questions or ask them some closed questions first to build up their knowledge.  In other words, teachers have to use processing questions for clarifying or refocusing purposes.  Do you think this is possible in a class of 45 pupils?  It's still possible but it will definitely strain the teachers.  In the case of a smaller classes, it's highly likely that pupils are more capable of giving longer and more relevant answers.  Because the class is small, the children rarely have to wait for support or feedback and this ensures that they consistently on task and not distracted.  Interactions between the teachers and the children are usually of higher quality.

Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa

I think not many people discussed here not like small class. However, I have stated my view here that the class size is not a major factor for me to select the school for my child. If two schools accepted my child with all other factors similar except class size, then I will also consider small class size one.

Different people has it own selection criteria/factor in choosing school for their child, so there is nothing wrong or right for the small class size issue.

猴子爸

如果你不是德望的家长，你就应该去选小班教学的学校。
如果你是德望的家长，你就应该直接向学校反映，若没结果，就转校，但不需要在这里投诉/埋怨，因为学校没有做一些不公平或针对性的事。
我不举得你讲的理论错，只是不明白有什么意义。是叫人不要读德望吗?我觉得想进去的家长根本不会理会。是叫人明白小班的好处吗?这么明显的道理，那个不明白?

原帖由 queeniekl 於 09-11-6 15:46 發表
I'm shocked to find so many people here fail to recongize the importance of small class teaching. There are many reasons for GH parents to choose GH for their children but I very much doubt that a "bi ...

judy

I'm shocked to find so many people here fail to recongize the importance of small class teaching.

小唔小班呢樣嘢有排講，前幾年教協迫政府改小班教學，以便安置教師，政府好象設了好幾家做試驗，随着PT上臺，呢絛縮骨仔但求唔使煩，加上經濟好轉，讓全港大部份小學减少收生，才有今天之局面。試驗有冇結果，我唔知。

係唔係小班教育就好，未有定論，起碼很多研究都証明小班教學效果有限，但使錢就多多。至於何謂小班，有人說15人以下オ算。20+嗰啲叫中班。亚洲富有國家，日本，新加坡都是40多人一班(有錯請指正)。

其實，不知是不是港人善忘，十年前，很多名津校都是收45人的，當時收生35，另外10個叫皇帝位。又唔見當年學生比現在差。

當然，現在生少了，個個都係寶，人也越來越自我為中心，以前重點係討論教育效益，現在，係討論照唔顧得足。

CHP

大班也可以訓練小朋友獨立, 或互相幫助, 因為老師不能事事照顧周到.

judy

原帖由 wunma 於 09-11-6 17:39 發表
我覺得特殊學校才需要小班教學. 因為這些學生才絕對需要"個別"照顧.

對於一般學校, 小班教學最明顯是減輕老師工作量, 唔可以話冇用, 但對學生成績影響不大. ...

我都係咁諗。所以我舉了我行山一例，人多人少，沿途美景，並無ニ致。但好處是，阿三騎馬，可和另一小女孩比賽馬力。行人少時，好難有人同你癲的。

spiderlily

It is important to choose a right school for the kids - considering not only the capability of the kids but also the parents' resources.

原帖由 stjoboldboy 於 09-11-6 16:01 發表


GH既問題唔單止係45人一班, 睇完呢個thread真係既嚇人吓,

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2163671&extra=page%3D1

“我個女咪又係臨默vocab. list 之前一晚喊住話唔識和好驚. 最後也是不及 ...

Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa

冰山一角啫，香港教育制度就係咁。我聽過某Mxx名官津女校，有小朋友被收全家非常閈心好過中六合彩。但惡夢再閈學校而來，功課和测驗都跟唔上，一個月後某一晚，班主任打電話去學生屋企，叫家長幫學生退學因跟唔上。幾冇情，但現實就是這樣。父母應衡量自己小朋友和家長是否有能力和適合讀某些名校，因大部份學校都唔會就哂學生的水平而教，要求家長出力輔助小朋友。香港有很多學校選擇，一定可以為小朋友揀到理想的學校，唔锺意德望咪揀第間囉，最緊要適合你的小朋友，唔係適合大人的意願。

原帖由 stjoboldboy 於 09-11-6 16:01 發表


GH既問題唔單止係45人一班, 睇完呢個thread真係既嚇人吓,

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2163671&extra=page%3D1

“我個女咪又係臨默vocab. list 之前一晚喊住話唔識和好驚. 最後也是不及 ...

frenchfries

其實依家都有唔少學校收生不足, 只有幾個學生一班, 嗰啲成日推祟小班既人應該將佢地既子女送去這些學校. 這些超小班老師對小朋友既照顧可更加周到.

其實, 香港既師資已一直被人疚病. 我想很多人都曾遇過好老師及差老師, 亦感受到他們對我們的影響有幾大. 本來剎校是一個好好既機會汰弱留強. 提高全港老師既質素. 試問你想自己的子女在大班裹給好老師教, 還是在小班裹給差老師教. 好老師就只有那麼多, 小班教學只會減少學生可以遇到好老師既機會.

那些補習天王1個對百幾個, 學生還趨之若鶩. 學生已對需否小班教學投了票.

frenchfries

政府如果將用於小班教學既資源用於請一些人幫助老師處理行政工作, 讓老師專心教書. 及提高老師既待遇,以吸引人才加入教書行列, 似乎對學生更有好處

youma

原帖由 spiderlily 於 09-11-6 15:08 發表
Please mind your words.  BK provides a platform for idea exchange but not personal attack.

QUOTE
I don't think there will be any stupid parent who will say that a big class is better th ...

Agreed.

大班對學習能力較高的小朋友來說, 也有相當好處! 小兒小女都讀大班, 都是人版, 小女更有雙班主任. :

Sindy

原帖由 frenchfries 於 09-11-6 19:17 發表
其實依家都有唔少學校收生不足, 只有幾個學生一班, 嗰啲成日推祟小班既人應該將佢地既子女送去這些學校. 這些超小班老師對小朋友既照顧可更加周到.

其實, 香港既師資已一直被人疚病. 我想很多人都曾遇過好老師及差 ...

一對百幾既補習天王,d人去係想拎佢地嘔心瀝血貼到既題目,並不是迷信佢地可以幫到佢化腐朽為神奇,如果相信佢地可以化腐朽為神奇的,相信佢地仲未知呢d天皇既用處係乜囉,所以用呢d黎比喻人喜歡大班,似乎講唔通

一個班房既設計,容納40人,都已經好極限,教育局所訂既每班上限人數,係因為消防條例可以容納,有d校長話,一個班房如果收到45人,實際上係唔好,因為班房d有幾個位,係盲點,學生上課都未必睇得清楚黑板

[ 本帖最後由 Sindy 於 09-11-6 22:58 編輯 ]

哈爾濱

bk真係有d家長係有佢講冇人講架, 佢講果d先叫做至理名言, 人地講果d就布唔係架

講番先, 其實我地以前都係幾十個人一班架lar, 有咩問題啫, 讀到書就讀到書, 讀唔到就讀唔到架lar, 唔通小班就可以變9A咩, 攪咁多都唔知做咩鬼, 遲d大把人來香港爭位讀書tim, 邊夠位

原帖由 judy 於 09-11-6 16:57 發表


小唔小班呢樣嘢有排講，前幾年教協迫政府改小班教學，以便安置教師，政府好象設了好幾家做試驗，随着PT上臺，呢絛縮骨仔但求唔使煩，加上經濟好轉，讓全港大部份小學减少收生，才有今天之局面。試驗有冇結果，我唔知。

係唔係小班教 ...

onon811

我睇見學校資料寫由2009/2010年開始, 實施小班教學wor ?

ziyi

那裡看到的?

原帖由 onon811 於 09-11-9 15:46 發表
我睇見學校資料寫由2009/2010年開始, 實施小班教學wor ?

onon811

2010小一入學攻略 --- 蘋果日報出版

有無現在就讀小一的學生家長証實一下?

[ 本帖最後由 onon811 於 09-11-9 16:13 編輯 ]