老公是喇沙舊生，仔仔申請喇小﹙喇沙小學﹚會否分加？

charwes

如只是 LSC old boy 而非 LSPS old boy 是沒有分的, 如果你仔仔是大仔, 並無宗教分的話, 咁應該只有 15 分, 要 1st round 入的話機會等如零.

原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-2 12:27 發表
我老公只係喇沙舊生，唔係小學舊生啊。
咁即係只得20分？即係低分？

咁即係我仔仔係自行分配學位到無著數啦？
咁咪即係要搬屋黎增加機會？唉.......好煩惱啊﹗咁多位有咩建議俾我提高入喇小機會啊？

咁喇沙舊生身份會唔會提高仔 ...

fion_yinyin

oh，咁即係喇沙中學舊生身份無用。即係要搬屋同等d無把握的大抽獎？
唉....香港既教育制度玩死人咩﹗

咁如果我自行分配學位明知無機都填喇小，跟住統一派位又填喇小做首選，好有誠意喇掛，咁入讀喇小機會唔會唔大d？

同埋老公喇沙中學舊生會唔會幫到仔仔入喇沙中學既機會大d？因為我知道升中都會有自行分配學位

ziyi

誠意分的作用只在叩門時有用,通常名校的叩門位都非常少,而名校通常派到都唔會放棄.所以叩門位只是教育局容許的10% of 正常學額

以大班教學是30人一班,及小班25人為準,平均2~3人 x 學校開多少班

因我的是囡囡,所以唔知道La Sa開多少班,當4班也只有10~12個叩門位

你想想有多少人競爭!

原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-3 08:20 發表
oh，咁即係喇沙中學舊生身份無用。即係要搬屋同等d無把握的大抽獎？
唉....香港既教育制度玩死人咩﹗

咁如果我自行分配學位明知無機都填喇小，跟住統一派位又填喇小做首選，好有誠意喇掛，咁入讀喇小機會唔會唔大d？

同埋老公喇 ...

traeh

誠意好多人都有，係喇沙呢D大熱學校，叩門時只有誠意，係無乜用的．升中玩法又唔同，爸爸係舊生幫助不大．

爸爸多D返去參加母校活動，多D同與學校關係較好，或對學校較有影響力的舊同學及老師聯絡，將來叩門時或者仲有少少用．咁講可能好功利，但如果咁想仔仔入母校，亦都應該返去了解下學校現時情況啦．

原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-3 08:20 發表
oh，咁即係喇沙中學舊生身份無用。即係要搬屋同等d無把握的大抽獎？
唉....香港既教育制度玩死人咩﹗

咁如果我自行分配學位明知無機都填喇小，跟住統一派位又填喇小做首選，好有誠意喇掛，咁入讀喇小機會唔會唔大d？

同埋老公喇 ...

fion_yinyin

我都知叩門位好少，多謝ziyi你既資料啊
其實老公都係返去參加d old boy basketball team咋，無乜特別

中學玩法又唔同？有無人知點玩法啊？乜野條件會令升心儀中學著數d？

fion_yinyin

多謝你啊Charlotte_mom，好詳細啊﹗
咁即係講到尾中學舊生無著數啦............!!!

其實我都有諗過報直資，但12年都要俾貴d學費，驚小數怕長計呢

anxiousparent

原帖由 charwes 於 09-11-2 17:49 發表
其實唔係太明你文中意思... 喇沙 old boys 大多熱愛母校, 想自己下一代都可如自己般受母校教育應該係人之常情吧..

The answer is very simple.  and it does not only apply to LSC, but to a lot of "traditional" famous schools such as DBS, St. Jo, Wah Yan, Maryknoll, etc.  

traditional famous schools tend to rely a lot of their students' own motivation to study (plus, in the good old days when they could still select their own students, there was a minimum guarantee for the quality of their students).  The schools do not actually add a lot of value to the students.

Nowadays, traditional famous schools cannot choose their own students (unless they have gone private or DSS) and a lot of old boy or old girl parents are worried about the "dilution" effect of the quality of the classmates (not about whether they are rich or poor, but about whether the academic progress would be slowed down because the ability is so diverse).   And, having gone through the "system" themselves they will know that the school does not add value, and it actually takes a lot of hard work by the kids themselves in order to excel (and, with it, pressure which old boys/girls do not want their kids to go through again).  They realise that in this day and age the safe bet is to depart from the traditional system and go to international schools.  


This has nothing to do with school spirit or loyalty,  old boys and old girls can still be very loyal and supportive of their old school, for the support and education they have received in the past.  that does not mean that they would want their kids to go through it again.  And a lot of people do not want their kids to be the guinea pig of 3-3-4.  Plus, many of these schools (and the education system) have changed a lot.  liking the school as it WAS is not the same as wanting kids to go there as it IS.  

I think this is a correct understanding of the meaning of the thread.  I am sorry to have to write it out so bluntly.    Go and ask a lot of the alumni of these famous schools and I am quite sure you will find that a lot of them (and i DO mean A LOT) think in this way.   

It is of course nice if alumni can continue the heritage of their school through their family, but the system in HK is causing alumni to think otherwise.  This is no bad thing, because those who have "been there" may think that they do not need to "label" of their old school to give their kids success.  Spaces in their old school can be given to those who have not yet "been there".  This can be regarded as part of the upward mobility of HK society.

This is nothing against the schools; just something against the system.

[ 本帖最後由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-4 14:00 編輯 ]

traeh

I agree that is what 小謙伯伯 means.
But on the contrary, I think those traditional famous schools DO add some values to the students.

They provide the environment for positive peer influence and set a standard, both academic and moral, for the students to follow and achieve.
On academic side, sometimes children (and parents) might not realize how far they can go if not given the opportunity and guidance.
On moral side, this is especially important when parents' influence might diminish when the kids get older.

IS might not be everyone's best choice. The school fee, the Chinese standard, the culture......and once you put your kid in IS, it would be very difficult to turn back to local system.

On the other hand, non-famous schools do not equal to "easy curriculum" and "lower academic requirements".  They may have even higher pressure to push the kids into band one standard in order to get into good secondary schools.  

原帖由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-4 13:43 發表


The answer is very simple.  and it does not only apply to LSC, but to a lot of "traditional" famous schools such as DBS, St. Jo, Wah Yan, Maryknoll, etc.  

traditional famous schools tend to rely a ...

anxiousparent

原帖由 traeh 於 09-11-4 14:57 發表
I agree that is what 小謙伯伯 means.
But on the contrary, I think those traditional famous schools DO add some values to the students.

They provide the environment for positive peer influence and set ...

I agree that International Schools may not be the best choice and traditional famous schools can, to some extent, provide a good environment in terms of peer influence, sense of pride/belonging, etc.  But my purpose is not to decide whether these are right views or wrong views.  I am only trying to explain the reason why it is perfectly possible (indeed very often the case) that graduates of famous schools decide NOT to let their kids go back to the same system.  You can say they are right, or they are wrong, but that is the way A LOT of them think.  

which gives a lot of food for thought ....

traeh

True.  So the most important thing is to make an informed choice when choosing schools.

原帖由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-4 16:42 發表
I agree that International Schools may not be the best choice and traditional famous schools can, to some extent, provide a good environment in terms of peer influence, sense of pride/belonging, etc ...

fion_yinyin

我諗又唔可以完全抹殺一d所謂名校既工夫既，而我亦都同意有d人所講「幫仔女選中學其實係幫佢選同學同學生家長」。如果成班既學習氣氛係好既話，會形成一種正動力，學生會自動自覺溫習，造成一個良性循環。

再者，新聞報道咩咩十優/八優+2科5*多數都係出自名校，咁你話家長又點會唔想仔女入呢d學校呢

anxiousparent

原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-5 10:36 發表
我諗又唔可以完全抹殺一d所謂名校既工夫既，而我亦都同意有d人所講「幫仔女選中學其實係幫佢選同學同學生家長」。如果成班既學習氣氛係好既話，會形成一種正動力，學生會自動自覺溫習，造成一個良性循環。

再者，新聞報道咩咩 ...

I do not think I disagree, in that "famous schools" create an atmosphere which motivates the students to push themselves.  this is what the phrase 「自求多福」is supposed to mean (I think).  But in terms of being able to add value in terms of better quality teachers (who are able to attend to the needs of students etc etc), well .....  one phrase- 自求多福

traeh

Yes, and that is true to all schools, doesn't matter if it is famous or not.  

And different parents might have different expectation on teachers.  So the same teacher will have very different comments from different parents with different views (and, of course, different kids).  

[quote]原帖由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-5 10:43 發表 ......But in terms of being able to add value in terms of better quality teachers (who are able to attend to the needs of students etc etc), well .....  one phrase- 自求多福[quote]

fion_yinyin

點解我唔明ha8mo想講乜？

ziyi

我想他的意思是La Sa硬件超好 (中小學合共78,790平方米),一般新直資(中小學)合共才12000平方米,足足6間直資的規模

為了軟(師資/校友網絡)硬(學校環境/設備),就算小朋友唔合適,如果有offer下一定要仔仔入讀

可惜我生的是囡囡

原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-5 14:55 發表
點解我唔明ha8mo想講乜？

fion_yinyin

i see
咁喇沙同喇小又真係超大喎
喇沙入面有swimming pool同個室外運動場，係好多學校都無既設施啊
你睇下淨係呢d硬件已經勝人一籌啦，家長又點會唔心動？